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Part of stolen lottery jackpot is returned to Texas man

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Monkey Butt, USA
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Posted: February 20, 2010, 10:11 am - IP Logged

Mr. Willis should be grateful to get what money can be recovered. So he has bills to pay. Big deal. We all do, some more than others.

I notice that no one here is willing to address how Mr. Willis became an unfortunate "victim" to greed because of his own laziness and tons of useless excuses of why he didn't check his tickets himself.

Don't get me wrong, I am extremely happy that Mr. Willis will receive what the state can recover. But I fail to see how anyone could actually believe that the TX Lottery Commission should award him the full million when every piece of lottery related product you encounter specifically states that the Lottery Commission is not responsible for LOST or STOLEN TICKETS.

AND--AND--AND it tells you to SIGN YOUR TICKET!!!!!!!!!!

Please explain to me how or why the TX Lottery Commission should be held accountable for Mr. Willis' negligence. I would happily agree if there was something suspect about the ticket when it was presented to the Lottery Commission. But there wasn't.  The Lottery Commission had no reason not to honor the ticket and pay the bearer of the ticket.

It was the store manager and the store owner that was suspicious of the thief that set all of this in motion after the dirty deed had been done. I would even agree that the Lottery Commission should be accountable had they paid out on the ticket knowing that there was a possibility the ticket was stolen. But that was not what happened. The Lottery Commission along with Mr. Willis was notified AFTER the dirty deed.

I firmy believe that the sticky-fingered-clerk should be brought back to TX and given a million lashes with a whip then deported home to spend the rest of his days remembering his million dollar a$$ whipping.

Botton line if you're going to play the lottery,

Handle up on your business!!!!!

CHECK YOUR OWN TICKETS!!!!!

WRITE YOUR NAME ON  THE D@MN THING!!!

IN INK!!!!!!!!!

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    baton rouge
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    Posted: February 20, 2010, 4:11 pm - IP Logged

    Now you getting to rob this guy after he gets his money back!!

    Shame where you all before he was in trouble, folks like you mushroom together for greed

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      Posted: February 20, 2010, 7:11 pm - IP Logged

      Mr. Willis should be grateful to get what money can be recovered. So he has bills to pay. Big deal. We all do, some more than others.

      I notice that no one here is willing to address how Mr. Willis became an unfortunate "victim" to greed because of his own laziness and tons of useless excuses of why he didn't check his tickets himself.

      Don't get me wrong, I am extremely happy that Mr. Willis will receive what the state can recover. But I fail to see how anyone could actually believe that the TX Lottery Commission should award him the full million when every piece of lottery related product you encounter specifically states that the Lottery Commission is not responsible for LOST or STOLEN TICKETS.

      AND--AND--AND it tells you to SIGN YOUR TICKET!!!!!!!!!!

      Please explain to me how or why the TX Lottery Commission should be held accountable for Mr. Willis' negligence. I would happily agree if there was something suspect about the ticket when it was presented to the Lottery Commission. But there wasn't.  The Lottery Commission had no reason not to honor the ticket and pay the bearer of the ticket.

      It was the store manager and the store owner that was suspicious of the thief that set all of this in motion after the dirty deed had been done. I would even agree that the Lottery Commission should be accountable had they paid out on the ticket knowing that there was a possibility the ticket was stolen. But that was not what happened. The Lottery Commission along with Mr. Willis was notified AFTER the dirty deed.

      I firmy believe that the sticky-fingered-clerk should be brought back to TX and given a million lashes with a whip then deported home to spend the rest of his days remembering his million dollar a$$ whipping.

      Botton line if you're going to play the lottery,

      Handle up on your business!!!!!

      CHECK YOUR OWN TICKETS!!!!!

      WRITE YOUR NAME ON  THE D@MN THING!!!

      IN INK!!!!!!!!!

      You're undoubtedly 100% right from a legal perspective.

      In terms of humanity and compassion you're dead wrong.

      The dadgum government wins every time.

      This was this guy's once in a lifetime chance.

      Let the government pay off the balance with some of them jackpots they keep that go unclaimed.

      Let's face the fact that there are stupid and/or gullible people playing the lottery. Should they be taken advantage of because of that? He trusted an agent of the lottery and got ripped off. Give him his dadgum money and let the government wait to catch the crook.

      The government will continue raking in millions while they're waiting. This guy won't. He probably won't even live long enough.

      Have a heart, being a little slow shouldn't be a crime.


                                                   
                           
                                               

       

       

       

       

                                                                                                         

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        Monkey Butt, USA
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        Posted: February 21, 2010, 9:17 am - IP Logged

        You're undoubtedly 100% right from a legal perspective.

        In terms of humanity and compassion you're dead wrong.

        The dadgum government wins every time.

        This was this guy's once in a lifetime chance.

        Let the government pay off the balance with some of them jackpots they keep that go unclaimed.

        Let's face the fact that there are stupid and/or gullible people playing the lottery. Should they be taken advantage of because of that? He trusted an agent of the lottery and got ripped off. Give him his dadgum money and let the government wait to catch the crook.

        The government will continue raking in millions while they're waiting. This guy won't. He probably won't even live long enough.

        Have a heart, being a little slow shouldn't be a crime.

        Rdgrnr, I'll be one of the first to admit that the government is full of greedy bas--tards.

        But my bone of contention is this man doesn't qualify for being stupid/or gullible or a little slow.

        All of this happened because he was too G.D. lazy to check his own numbers.

        If you read the previous stories you'll see where he gave a long list of lame a$$ excuses for not checking his numbers himself. He also stated that he played the same numbers for some time. There is no way in this lifetime and the life after death, that you'll ever convince me that if you've been playing the same numbers for some time you would not have them etched on the brain.

        He'll, all he had to do is write his name on the fricking ticket in ink and that would've prevented or raised a red flag had the sticky fingered clerk tried to cash the ticket.

        Think back to the days when you were in school.

        Question: What was one thing all of your teachers always said every year?

        Answer:    Write your name on your paper.

        I never met a teacher that did not say those words during the school year.  It is also one of the first things that all the lotteries tell you to do.

        He reminds me of those people who go after the tobacco company for developing cancer after smoking like a chimney for eons. They made the choice to fire up that first cigarette and chose not to deny themself and kick the habit. As far back as I can remember I've always seen the warning on the packages. Should the tobacco industry be held accountable for that persons death? No

        How about the good folks that die from liver damage because of alcohol abuse? Should the alcohol industry be held responsible because their product was abused and a life of hardship or death ensued? No

        I have a heart and I have compassion. But this was just pure laziness on Mr. Willis' part. To give him the full million would say to other careless lottery players that it is ok if you ignore what we say, we got you covered.

        No, in this case I have to side with the Lottery Commission. They owe him nothing and it would send the wrong message if they paid him. My mom used to say, "the best sense is bought sense. How much are you willing to pay for your's?" Well Mr. Willis is in the process of paying for his sense.

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          Posted: February 23, 2010, 2:58 pm - IP Logged

          This is good news at least the rightful owner is getting some of his stolen winnings back

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            Posted: February 26, 2010, 4:34 pm - IP Logged

            It goes to show you that crime doesn't pay!No No

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              Posted: March 7, 2010, 5:19 pm - IP Logged

              I too am happy the real winner has received some of his money back.  I pray he gets more from the other frozen accounts.

              As for the government not taxing him because taxes were paid by the robber, that is unreal.  He has received a gift.  It has to be counted in his income taxes like everyone else.  Tax laws don't change because someone was robbed.  If you disagree wth the tax system (I'm tired of being taxed to death also) then advocate through your legislature or rallies for the fair tax or other tax proposals.  If a law was implemented related to the tax situation above it would not take effect retroactively.

              The robber will go on trial here in the United States and I hope he gets jail time to be an example to other store clerks (most of who are honest) and thiefs.

              Also, the lottery commision is not responsible for paying the victim of the stolen ticket the remainder of what he would have won.  I don't understand that justification at all!

              I have sympathy for the victim, I feel his pain and I will pray he will recover from all the assets the robber owns.

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                Posted: March 8, 2010, 1:51 am - IP Logged

                Of course Willis will pay taxes on his winnings. Luckily for him, the IRS arranged to have some of the prize money withheld, so he knows exactly where that  money is. Since the clerk can no longer count the recovered money as income most of the money the IRS has won't be needed to pay the clerk's income taxes, thus freeing it up to pay the taxes for Willis' income. The only real question is how easily it will all be sorted out.

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                  Posted: March 9, 2010, 6:08 am - IP Logged

                  The IRS is always the first and last vulture on the carcass of somebody's dream.


                                                               
                                       
                                                           

                   

                   

                   

                   

                                                                                                                     

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