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Clerk tried to steal $14 million lottery ticket

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Posted: September 18, 2010, 6:29 pm - IP Logged

He paid for that ticket and it was his win or lose..Go around the counter and get it!!..Maybe he needs a nurse..Stop making the clerk out to be a nice guy he's a crook...

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    Posted: September 18, 2010, 7:36 pm - IP Logged

    I never ask clerks if I have a winning ticket I always go to NYLOTTERY.ORG or use the customer self  check scanner inside of the stores to see if I have the winning ticket myself.

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      Posted: September 18, 2010, 8:14 pm - IP Logged

      Absolutely always sign your lottery ticket when you buy it, don't wait till you take it to any store, as well check your numbers beforehand- whether it is on the computer, the newspaper, or getting a print out of the draw numbers from a store- never trust any clerk by just handing over a ticket!!

       

      Good luck everybody with future winnings- I hope we all win large lottery winfalls!

       

      Dance  Disney

      So.........If you sign your ticket when you buy it, can you still claim it in a blind trust?

      Does anyone know how it that works..........

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        Posted: September 18, 2010, 8:15 pm - IP Logged

        He paid for that ticket and it was his win or lose..Go around the counter and get it!!..Maybe he needs a nurse..Stop making the clerk out to be a nice guy he's a crook...

        Confused

        I have no idea what you are talking about, but we will leave it at that.

        Have a nice day!

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          Posted: September 18, 2010, 11:11 pm - IP Logged

          I do stuff like this from time to time. It is not that the trusted retailer is not my first choice, it is the fact they are closed when I get decide to go uptown sometimes to get my tickets for the evening. The store where I like to go closes at 6pm. The others are convenience stores that stay open to all hours of the night. It is possible that is what may have happen here, since he waited until the next day to talk to the trusted retailer he knew.

          After getting more information from another source I found out he brought his ticket from the trusted retailer and went to him and told him the story and that retailer called the police and the lottery commission.  The lottery records showed the ticket was bought at the trusted retailer business and scanned at the deli with crooked clerk so it was evident that the clerk had taken the ticket and was planning to cash it in after things  settled down.  I guess stealing that $14M just looked too easy to past up.

           * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
             
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            Confused

            I have no idea what you are talking about, but we will leave it at that.

            Have a nice day!

            Don't feel bad. Hardly anybody ever knows what the hell tiggs is talking about, including him.

            He's from Kentucky.


                                                         
                                 
                                                     

             

             

             

             

                                                                                                               

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              Posted: September 19, 2010, 9:35 am - IP Logged

              So.........If you sign your ticket when you buy it, can you still claim it in a blind trust?

              Does anyone know how it that works..........

              I am not sure how the blind trust idea would work, but I do know that when you buy a lottery ticket here it says right on the ticket to Simply sign it!

              That way nobody can say it is their ticket, when your name is written on it, when you purchase it!

               

              Coffee

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                Posted: September 19, 2010, 9:38 am - IP Logged

                I am not sure how the blind trust idea would work, but I do know that when you buy a lottery ticket here it says right on the ticket to Simply sign it!

                That way nobody can say it is their ticket, when your name is written on it, when you purchase it!

                 

                Coffee

                Yes tiggs will sign his ticket simply so as ridge runner can't steal it..He's from Tn you know and that's how they make a living way down there...steal...

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                  Posted: September 19, 2010, 11:26 am - IP Logged

                  and i saw that only 1 name is allowed on the back, whatif 2 people sign the back?

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                    Posted: September 19, 2010, 11:31 am - IP Logged

                    When you win, that's the last thing on your mind....signing the <snip> ticket.

                    EVERYONE here should now know.....

                    #1 - don't hand a ticket you haven't checked over to any clerk.

                    #2 - if you win (even if you don't think you read the numbers right and need someone to check it for you Roll Eyes), sign your stinkin' ticket.

                    #3 - don't trust anyone.

                     

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                      Posted: September 19, 2010, 1:45 pm - IP Logged

                      So.........If you sign your ticket when you buy it, can you still claim it in a blind trust?

                      Does anyone know how it that works..........

                      I'm only going by what the back of the ticket says about the ticket being a bearer instrument! And since that's the case, if you sign it with your personal name then it has to be claimed as such (an individual/personal claim) Now if the name of the trust is on the back of the ticket and the proper paperwork for the trust formation accompanies the ticket it will be claimed in the name of the trust!

                      I'm not a professional or anything but that seems to be the logical conclusion on something such as a lottery ticket being a bearer instrument. And if the lottery is going to go by what's written on the back of the ticket or not, or with the paperwork for a trust and/or power of attorney papers that's presented at the time of making the claim!

                      Keep dreaming the impossible dream, it just may come true! Thumbs Up

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                        I would think that since if you sign with a personal name it would need to be claimed by that person whose name is on the ticket.

                        If a blind trust is to claim the ticket then I would imagine the name of the trust would need to be on there. That is who the check is made out to and as far as I know the check is always made out to whatever is on the back of the ticket.

                         

                        In the case of a blind trust I would definitely not sign the ticket until you've talked to your attorney or whoever and also called the lottery offices to see how they want it signed.

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                          Posted: September 19, 2010, 7:18 pm - IP Logged

                          "This clerk, for all practical purposes stole 14 million dollars and they are going to determine if any charges will be filed???"

                          There's not much point in filing charges if you haven't got a case. The reason that states that run sting operations wait until the decoy ticket is presented for claim to arrest people is that until the claim is made there's no proof that the ticket was purposely stolen. All we know beyond a reasonable doubt from the information in the article is that McCassell handed the clerk a ticket and the clerk didn't give him proper information about the ticket's value or the claim procedure. If you can't prove why that happened the best you can do is prove that the clerk didn't do his job properly. To convict him of stealing the ticket you need more proof, such as a store video that clearly shows him pocketing the ticket or perhaps "finding" the ticket in a place that offers ample evidence that somebody deliberately saved the ticket.

                          "As soon as the man checked the ticket on the scanner it said BIG WINNER..Can't he read??"

                          Have you ever seen how lotteries advertise games and prizes? If somebody doesn't know enough to check their tickets by some other method and know how much they've won why should they think that "big winner" doesn't just mean they won $10 or $20? I would assume that "big winner' means it's more than the store can pay, but I don't know it for a fact and I've certainly never seen a lottery make such information obviously available.

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                            Ky- correct, an attempt or allegation is just that. Thanks for clarifying that for folks. Few get the legal evidence necessary before placing charges.

                             

                            On a side note I have two stores I frequent for ticket redemption- They have posted customer rules for claims on any ticket:

                            Rule 1: Did the clerk hand you the confirmation of your ticket win? (if not you get a free ticket play!). Seen a clerk hand a guy a confirmation ticket saying not a winner and he tossed it back and said, nice try! The confirmation ticket is even from a different date! Now reprint my confirmation or call the lottery...That ticket was indeed a winner.

                            Rule2: Your the customer, its your money. Remind the clerk if they forget.

                            Rule 3: We pay in cashier check for 80$ and above. Fill out your claims form if you are tax required.

                            Rule4: Keep playing here because we play fair here!

                            ~~Is it true, Is it kind,Is it necessary. ~~~

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                              Posted: September 19, 2010, 9:46 pm - IP Logged

                                Hehe, so Attorney's office is still to determine if any charges would be filed.

                              Here is the morale of this story: do not cheat rich and do not steal from rich like Mr Madoff did. You will get 150 years of jail.  Do the same to poor guy and live a happy life.