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rdgrnr's avatar - walt
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Posted: April 19, 2011, 7:47 pm - IP Logged

Wow, there's even sibling rivalry in other countries. We often hear about family hostilities in the United States, but we're accustomed to hearing about jealousy here in our own backyard.

Perhaps, the deceased intended to make changes in his will, including some members, and leaving some out -- but that's a bit little too late, unfortunately.

Post members, if you don't have an iron clad Will, make one; and if you intend on making changes, don't waste time, do it now. Or better yet, leave $1.00 to each family member and give the rest to foundations, charities, or close friends, as long as you're legally sane and competent to do so.

Finally, live each day as if it were your last; life is too short for drama.

"...as long as you're legally sane..."

 

Somebody should call tiggs and inform him his will is not valid.


                                             
                     
                                         

 

 

 

 

                                                                                                   

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    Posted: April 19, 2011, 9:02 pm - IP Logged

    it should be 60-40 split in favor of the ones that were stuck looking after him...

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      Posted: April 19, 2011, 9:54 pm - IP Logged

      If he could see how they're all behaving now he's gone, I bet he'd rather the whole lot went to the local dogs home, and to heck with the greedy bludgers!

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        Posted: April 20, 2011, 2:15 am - IP Logged

        They are his children, so they should split it equally, especially since his will basically says so.

        What, is the one daughter trying to say that becuase the ticket was under or in the furniture that she should get it? Maybe I mis read that, but bottom line is the ticket is not "furniture" so it should be split between the kids.

        The only thing certain about this story is that it's a badly written will that almost certainly didn't considerthe possibility that his financial situation might change. I'm inclined to agree that he intended an equitable split amongst all four children, but that really depends on the relative values of the two types of property listed in the will. If he actually wanted his estate split evenly amongst all four the will should have said so plainly instead of splitting the estate into two pieces and then distributing those pieces separately.

        The daughter apparently claimed that the ticket was chattel, a legal term for personal property.  That would arguably make the ticket part of his chattels, and perhaps that would have been the court's ruling had the will simply left chattels to the daughter and "the rest and residue of my estate" to the remaining heirs, but that's not what the will said. Chattels definitely includes the furniture, and it also includes some of his estate that was "personal of whatsoever nature" that was left to the other children. The will limited the chattels  that were to be left to the daughter to those that were in the house, and instead of simply saying "chattels" it said "furniture and chattels".  That suggests that his intent was simply to leave her the possessions that he generally kept in the house. If those items had included a check book or a passbook to a savings account she wouldn't be entitled to the  contents of the accounts, since what was in the hosue was merely a record of property that was located elsewhere. The lottery ticket is essentailly the same as any other record of financial property located elsewhere. The ticket itself is just a piece of paper, and the judge obviously considered the prize money won with the ticket to be part of the estate covered under the second clause.

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          Posted: April 20, 2011, 8:49 am - IP Logged

          Screw the "kids" that didn't take care of him !

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            Posted: April 20, 2011, 9:45 am - IP Logged

            I hope that one or more of the 4 has the brains to dump the troubles on the others and walk away. Let

            them fight over it. The money is a curse in this situation and can only cause more hardship and

            division. I guess Christina and her husband think that getting the things in his quarters meant getting

            all of the money too. Greed gets in the way when money is involved, I've seen normal families turned up-

            side down over money and dysfunctional family relationships become more dysfunctional over money.

            Everyone wants their share and many times their self-estimated share is grossly over-estimated because

            one thinks they've done more and deserve more.

            The guy had the foresight to create a will. Instead of painting it shades of grey, it should be black and

            white. They are ALL entitled to what was designated...how is that so difficult? The one that owns the

            house, keeps the things that were in his flat. The others get the remainder. The winnings get split evenly.

            The courts should have taken into deeper consideration the will was made before he won.....before he had

            a windfall of $1.8 million to consider. It seems where they are now is dividing the jp amongst 3 siblings

            as was originally stated in his will (remainder of estate) That does not seem fair or right to me either.

            If fair and just is the ultimate goal, split it 4 ways and let everyone go on their merry way.

            If it were me, I'd wash my hands of the whole thing and say keep it, have a nice life and leave me alone.

            A case isn't heard 11 times unless one of the parties is not satisfied with a prior result. There were, most

            definitely, problems before the father died...I'll bet one of them was who would take Dad in. I'll bet every

            single one of them would have jumped at the chance if they knew in the near future, dad would be the

            winner of a $1.8 Million dollar jackpot. Poor dad is probably much better off dead.

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              Posted: April 20, 2011, 10:17 am - IP Logged

              out here  squabbling over an estate the lawyer fees comes form the estate not the pocket of the complaintant.  so 11  hearings is easy when you have a 1.8 mill fund to leech  to pay for lawyers.

              i say fight it out till theres no money left.

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                Posted: April 20, 2011, 10:49 am - IP Logged

                Excellent idea savagegoose!

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                  Posted: April 20, 2011, 6:36 pm - IP Logged

                  and it's not even THAT much to be split so many people! why not the even division - why bother with the second part of the lawsuit? you get the furnishings and then split the rest - what is so hard? I do understand the siblings for challenging the couple if they were in fact trying to hog the money - this is what their parent wanted and it should be honored 

                  when i win - solo, my lawyer will be instructed to say "a group of 52 retired navy seals have won" -- you know, to get the haters off my butt .. Sulk Off

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                    Posted: April 22, 2011, 4:46 pm - IP Logged

                    It's such a shame that they are fighting like this....why is money the root of all evil?

                    All things are possible to those that believe!!!!!!Wink

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                      Posted: April 22, 2011, 6:07 pm - IP Logged

                      It's such a shame that they are fighting like this....why is money the root of all evil?

                      Money is not the root of all evil.

                      The love of money is the root of all evil.  (1 Timothy 6:10)


                                                                   
                                           
                                                               

                       

                       

                       

                       

                                                                                                                         

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                        Posted: April 23, 2011, 1:05 pm - IP Logged

                        It's hard to judge something like this.

                        Were James and Christina trying to screw the others out of their rightful inheritance or did they feel they didn't deserve it because they never helped out taking care of Dad and had no use for him until he won the lottery? Maybe James and Christina had amassed considerable debt taking care of him and the others refused to contribute, who knows?

                        Either way, it's terrible to see a family torn apart because of money.

                        Family is far and away more important than money.

                        I Agree! ... yes, it truly is a 'wild card' situation quandary!  I thought a ticket would be considered "chattel." 

                        Oh well, when we each create our signed holographic or pour-over Will later today, we will use the phrase "chattel" and "all contents within house." Sheesh!l

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                          I Agree! ... yes, it truly is a 'wild card' situation quandary!  I thought a ticket would be considered "chattel." 

                          Oh well, when we each create our signed holographic or pour-over Will later today, we will use the phrase "chattel" and "all contents within house." Sheesh!l

                          I was gonna get some chattel to raise one time but the sawbones told me to cut back on red meat.

                          Then on top of that you gotta worry about chattel rustlers.

                          Ain't worth it.


                                                                       
                                               
                                                                   

                           

                           

                           

                           

                                                                                                                             

                          "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

                                                                                                                      --Edmund Burke

                           

                           

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                            Posted: April 23, 2011, 1:33 pm - IP Logged

                            I changed my mind and now agree with KYFLOOD's summary.  Mail For You

                            Yet, if only the four children could have agreed to sign the back of the lottery ticket AND shared EVEN percentage splits of the lottery ticket's jackpot share they could have kept the ticket OUT of their father's estate (unless, of course, he had already signed the back of the lottery ... whoops!).  Or, this passing away might have been smoother if the father had NO will, because then probate court would have handled and distributed even percentage to each of his four children (unless the father had MORE than the four children mentioned in this article, who knows)!  The article doesn't state if the father was in any way disabled or ill.  It is possible that he simply was not too advanced in years, lived below his daughter's living quareters, owned and drove his own car daily, and paid his own utilities and a portion of the whole house's mortgage or rent, and never required any medical care or pampering from the child who lived above him during that time.

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                              Posted: April 23, 2011, 4:51 pm - IP Logged

                              Why, lottery post readers, does this article not surprise me -- another family in financial turmoil, again? When will it ever end?  Look, unless you put $1.00 or more in the lottery kitty, expect nothing. 

                              I am not talking about mothers, fathers, disabled family members -- they are the less fortunate.  All you healthy; strong; deceptive; lying; vicious; malevolent; and cunning family members; you need to sit back and rethink your strategies in life: the money does not belong to you, albeit, you are related.

                              Finally, contribute to the kitty in the near future and perhaps you will reap the lottery rewards. To the winner, in your Will, give each one $1.00.

                              See Ya!-- Bye, bye!  When you win, may you glow as brightly as theSun Smiley