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Sibling battle over $32M lottery win lands in court

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Posted: May 4, 2011, 10:51 am - IP Logged

Another valuable lesson of life:  ALWAYS BUY LOTTERY TICKETS ALONE !!!

Smart lottery winners form trust to claim their winnings.  They send an attorney to the lottery headquarters to claim the prize in trust, so that ONLY the name of the trust is revealed.  And they tell NO ONE, especially relatives.

If you ever win a lottery and you are single, the only person you should ever marry is someone who was truly in love with you BEFORE you won the jackpot!

    ameriken's avatar - 33ojew2
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    Posted: May 4, 2011, 11:05 am - IP Logged

    "Nahas says she asked to split the ticket cost with Haddad and he agreed. She alleges that she asked her brother to put her name on the ticket once he had bought it. She then wrote down the numbers to be played on a slip of paper and put it in her wallet."

    Something doesn't smell right about sis's story. The guy has bought thousands of tickets, so he is accustomed to getting lots of tickets on a regular basis. But according to sis, on this one particular day she just so happened to decide to participate with only 50 cents toward just one of those many tickets which miraculously turns out to be the winning ticket? Which, BTW, she totally forgot about that incident for a whole 2 months? You mean when he announced to everyone that he won, she had completely forgotten about that slip of paper she just wrote the numbers on? Uh-huh.

    That sounds quite manufactured and I hope the court does NOT award her a single cent. If the court does award her based solely on this story, it could set a precedence so that anytime someone wins, anyone else can just manufacture a story and bring it to court with the hopes the court will weigh on their behalf. You could have a winning ticket and anyone could try to stake a claim on it.

    The moral of the story?

    Tell NO ONE!!!

    Give someone a fish and feed them for a day. Teach them to use the internet and they won't bother you for weeks. 

      dpoly1's avatar - driver
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      Posted: May 4, 2011, 11:06 am - IP Logged

      I ALWAYS purchase my own lottery ticket & I don't promise anyone anything .............

      ................ that does not mean that I won't help anyone ..................

      Big Grin

        ameriken's avatar - 33ojew2
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        Posted: May 4, 2011, 11:07 am - IP Logged

        Another valuable lesson of life:  ALWAYS BUY LOTTERY TICKETS ALONE !!!

        Amen and hallelujah! I Agree!

        Give someone a fish and feed them for a day. Teach them to use the internet and they won't bother you for weeks. 

          Guru101's avatar - rw6jhh
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          Posted: May 4, 2011, 6:44 pm - IP Logged

          If I won the lottery and someone manufactured a story and sued me for a portion of the winnings and was actually awarded the money, they wouldn't live to enjoy it. That's all I'm gonna say.Evil Looking

          Gonna win.Big Smile

            RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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            Posted: May 4, 2011, 7:24 pm - IP Logged

            Nahas says she asked to split the ticket cost with Haddad and he agreed. She alleges that she asked her brother to put her name on the ticket once he had bought it. She then wrote down the numbers to be played on a slip of paper and put it in her wallet.  Really, for paying a portion of the ticket cost she expected the ticket to have her name on it right after it was bought,.  Who makes such a deal?

            Haddad's mistake was ever allowing anyone even a sister to occasionally give him a dollar toward the purchases of lottery tickets when she knew it was only a portion of what he and his friend was spending. 

            I've had people offer to give me a dollar toward the purchase of lottery tickets and I always tell them if they want a dollar ticket then they should purchased it themselves because the 10 or so tickets I'm usually buying are for me only.  That way if I ever do win I won't have someone coming forward later to say they think the day I won they gave me a dollars toward the purchase of lottery tickets with the understanding that any winnings would be shared equally.

             * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
               
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              Guru101's avatar - rw6jhh
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              Posted: May 4, 2011, 7:47 pm - IP Logged

              Nahas says she asked to split the ticket cost with Haddad and he agreed. She alleges that she asked her brother to put her name on the ticket once he had bought it. She then wrote down the numbers to be played on a slip of paper and put it in her wallet.  Really, for paying a portion of the ticket cost she expected the ticket to have her name on it right after it was bought,.  Who makes such a deal?

              Haddad's mistake was ever allowing anyone even a sister to occasionally give him a dollar toward the purchases of lottery tickets when she knew it was only a portion of what he and his friend was spending. 

              I've had people offer to give me a dollar toward the purchase of lottery tickets and I always tell them if they want a dollar ticket then they should purchased it themselves because the 10 or so tickets I'm usually buying are for me only.  That way if I ever do win I won't have someone coming forward later to say they think the day I won they gave me a dollars toward the purchase of lottery tickets with the understanding that any winnings would be shared equally.

              This is a classic example of what the lottery can do to people, even your own family. There was a story about a mother that sued her son when her son won several million dollars. It's easy for a family member to fabricate a story. For example, a parent who's son or daughter wins the lottery might fabricate a story along the lines of "He told me that if he ever won the lottery, he would split it with me" or something similar to that. It could even go the other way around. That much money does crazy things to people. They see an opportunity to have their dream of retirement, so they fabricate these stories for a chance to live that dream. They're liars.

              I always play alone. So far I have been asked 2 times at different gas stations by a clerk "If you win, are you going to give me a million dollars?". I don't know how many people know or care about the gift tax. People think that if you win a mega jackpot, you can just go around spotting people $100,000 here, $500,000 there, $1,000,000 there, like it's pocket change.

              Gonna win.Big Smile

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                Posted: May 4, 2011, 7:58 pm - IP Logged

                This is a classic example of what the lottery can do to people, even your own family. There was a story about a mother that sued her son when her son won several million dollars. It's easy for a family member to fabricate a story. For example, a parent who's son or daughter wins the lottery might fabricate a story along the lines of "He told me that if he ever won the lottery, he would split it with me" or something similar to that. It could even go the other way around. That much money does crazy things to people. They see an opportunity to have their dream of retirement, so they fabricate these stories for a chance to live that dream. They're liars.

                I always play alone. So far I have been asked 2 times at different gas stations by a clerk "If you win, are you going to give me a million dollars?". I don't know how many people know or care about the gift tax. People think that if you win a mega jackpot, you can just go around spotting people $100,000 here, $500,000 there, $1,000,000 there, like it's pocket change.

                and that's the sucky part.  I could marry anyone off the street and give them any of it without worrying about gift tax.  hell with no prenup they would be entitled to it in the event of a divorce.  but my mother....who labored over my birth, i cannot give any more than $13K or be subject to a rediculous tax.  That's what people don't understand.  It really needs to be changed.  Blah blah blah estate tax I know WHY gift tax is in place but it needs to be tweaked just a bit to include mother/father/siblings.  I guess that would potentionally open up more lawsuits though.

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                  Posted: May 4, 2011, 8:27 pm - IP Logged

                  Nahas says she asked to split the ticket cost with Haddad and he agreed. She alleges that she asked her brother to put her name on the ticket once he had bought it. She then wrote down the numbers to be played on a slip of paper and put it in her wallet.  Really, for paying a portion of the ticket cost she expected the ticket to have her name on it right after it was bought,.  Who makes such a deal?

                  Haddad's mistake was ever allowing anyone even a sister to occasionally give him a dollar toward the purchases of lottery tickets when she knew it was only a portion of what he and his friend was spending. 

                  I've had people offer to give me a dollar toward the purchase of lottery tickets and I always tell them if they want a dollar ticket then they should purchased it themselves because the 10 or so tickets I'm usually buying are for me only.  That way if I ever do win I won't have someone coming forward later to say they think the day I won they gave me a dollars toward the purchase of lottery tickets with the understanding that any winnings would be shared equally.

                  Apparently one ticket costs at least $2 so that's when the real problem started. The two month gap where the numbers went unnoticed in her wallet is highly suspicious. If someone handed me a buck to split a $2 ticket and told me which numbers to play, I'd tell them to fill out a playslip or buy their own ticket. If it was to get a QP, they would have no idea of what numbers were on the ticket unless I told them.

                  It gets even more complicated because the barber was splitting the cost and ownership of the ticket with Haddad and it looks the barber wasn't even aware of any further split Haddad's sister wanted to make. Had Haddad claimed the jackpot by himself, his sister may have a case but since it appears the ticket was already purchased by both Haddad and the barber, the sister believed she was getting a share of any tickets they bought.

                  If I was planning on getting 10 ticket and someone wanted to split one of the tickets, I always declined because if any one of my ticket hits the jackpot, they would believe it was the ticket we split.

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                    Posted: May 4, 2011, 9:30 pm - IP Logged

                    and that's the sucky part.  I could marry anyone off the street and give them any of it without worrying about gift tax.  hell with no prenup they would be entitled to it in the event of a divorce.  but my mother....who labored over my birth, i cannot give any more than $13K or be subject to a rediculous tax.  That's what people don't understand.  It really needs to be changed.  Blah blah blah estate tax I know WHY gift tax is in place but it needs to be tweaked just a bit to include mother/father/siblings.  I guess that would potentionally open up more lawsuits though.

                    The "tweak" is under the lifetime gift tax exemption. Wink

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                      The "tweak" is under the lifetime gift tax exemption. Wink

                      Actually I think 13K is a good number, that way if anyone asks for a load of cash after I win I can pull the gift tax card Dance

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                        The "tweak" is under the lifetime gift tax exemption. Wink

                        I realize there is a $1,000,000 lifetime exemption, but I still think it's messed up. If I won say $50,000,000 after taxes, I'd want to give $3,000,000 to my dad and $2,000,000 to my sister. That easily goes above the lifetime exemption. I guess the way to get around this would be by claiming as a group. The only thing is though, who's to say after I offer for us to claim as a group they won't say, "Well it's $50,000,000, how come we can't just split it equally?". Even if they were to agree on the figures I came up with, once the word gets out that I gave them $3,000,000 and $2,000,000, you can count on the aunts, uncles, cousins, and other family wanting a handout of at least a few hundred thousand as well. I think you should be able to give any amount of money to your immediate family without having to incur a gift tax, at least when it comes to cash.

                        Gonna win.Big Smile

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                          there is a story out here in oz that a son won lotto and let parents manage hids money, you know cuz he was kinda stupid. and not smart with money

                          well they blew it all for him.

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                            This is a classic example of what the lottery can do to people, even your own family. There was a story about a mother that sued her son when her son won several million dollars. It's easy for a family member to fabricate a story. For example, a parent who's son or daughter wins the lottery might fabricate a story along the lines of "He told me that if he ever won the lottery, he would split it with me" or something similar to that. It could even go the other way around. That much money does crazy things to people. They see an opportunity to have their dream of retirement, so they fabricate these stories for a chance to live that dream. They're liars.

                            I always play alone. So far I have been asked 2 times at different gas stations by a clerk "If you win, are you going to give me a million dollars?". I don't know how many people know or care about the gift tax. People think that if you win a mega jackpot, you can just go around spotting people $100,000 here, $500,000 there, $1,000,000 there, like it's pocket change.

                            So far I have been asked 2 times at different gas stations by a clerk "If you win, are you going to give me a million dollars?".

                            Sometimes I think the only reasons some clerks get jobs at gas stations that sell lots of lottery tickets is so they can get gratuities from lottery winners and maybe even get a share a jackpot if one of their customers get lucky.  On many occasions I've had a friendly clerk say "You're going to remember me if you win, aren't you?" and I answered a friendly "No, sorry I don't really know you".   Even had some of them look like a deer starking into a car head lights when I've cashed a ticket worth a hundred dollars or more as I thanked them and left.  I usually shop at different places for my tickets since I don't consider any of the clerks my friend.

                             * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                               
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                              Actually I think 13K is a good number, that way if anyone asks for a load of cash after I win I can pull the gift tax card Dance

                              That may work if they care about such things, but it's the GIVER that pays the gift tax, so the recipient doesn't have much reason to care about that.

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