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Detroit lottery millionaire charged with murder

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Posted: May 18, 2011, 7:40 pm - IP Logged

It's indeed too bad that Michigan doesn't have the death penalty.

 

I don't like Newt Gingrich either, susscs, but why be offended about him calling Detroit a failure?

It's the truth!  Do you deny that?

Detroit used to be a great, world-class city and now it's a crime-ridden, ghetto-encumbered, drug-infested, ghost-town, shadow of it's former self.

And that transformation began when liberals took over the city and instituted their policies.

 

You say: "come visit and let us show how we take care of own Newt."    

That should not be the standard by which you are judged. Putting everybody on welfare is not the solution. It may be touchy-feely, feel-good politics but it is not the solution. It is the problem.  That is what got Detroit in the mess it's in - taking care of everybody.

 

Your President is now asking Americans to share in the sacrifice.

This also is the wrong paradigm or mind-set to be coming from.

We are Americans and as such we are exceptional and we yearn to share in the prosperity, not the sacrifice.

Socialism is anathema to rugged individualism which breeds innovation and invention and achievement and success.

You don't help anybody by providing for them. 

 

God help us if we don't get this thing turned around.

Amen rdgrnr!! We all have to take the bitter with the sweet sometimes - truth. As a Michigander, I wish we did have the death penalty.  Better yet, let's get some of those Chinese laws.  Crime rate here would probably drop faster than I can bat my eye.

 

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    Posted: May 18, 2011, 7:46 pm - IP Logged

    Listen! listen people stop jumping on me and go back and read the thread from the begininng . There are  mention of the President being blame for the mess in Detroit and the Liberals.I said and still say it more to the story.No No

    louise black,

    How about you go back and read this thread from the beginning. You are the first one who mentioned Obama, the 13th post in the thread. Read the first 12 post beofre yours, show us any mention of Obama, and then explain why you mentioned him.

    Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

    Lep

    There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.


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      Posted: May 18, 2011, 8:38 pm - IP Logged

      louise black,

      How about you go back and read this thread from the beginning. You are the first one who mentioned Obama, the 13th post in the thread. Read the first 12 post beofre yours, show us any mention of Obama, and then explain why you mentioned him.

      Well ,Coin Toss maybe you should go back to the 5th text by dpolyl.EekOogle

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        Posted: May 18, 2011, 8:45 pm - IP Logged

        if I had my way this whole thread would be LOCKED OR DELETED ...... and the few would be suspended for a week just for the grins of it

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          Posted: May 19, 2011, 11:28 am - IP Logged

          louise black,

          Oooops! My faux pas, sorry...

          hearsetrax,

          OK, I "suspended" myself for a few hours last night! And will wear suspenders this morning!

          Scared

          Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

          Lep

          There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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            Posted: May 19, 2011, 12:43 pm - IP Logged

            It's indeed too bad that Michigan doesn't have the death penalty.

             

            I don't like Newt Gingrich either, susscs, but why be offended about him calling Detroit a failure?

            It's the truth!  Do you deny that?

            Detroit used to be a great, world-class city and now it's a crime-ridden, ghetto-encumbered, drug-infested, ghost-town, shadow of it's former self.

            And that transformation began when liberals took over the city and instituted their policies.

             

            You say: "come visit and let us show how we take care of own Newt."    

            That should not be the standard by which you are judged. Putting everybody on welfare is not the solution. It may be touchy-feely, feel-good politics but it is not the solution. It is the problem.  That is what got Detroit in the mess it's in - taking care of everybody.

             

            Your President is now asking Americans to share in the sacrifice.

            This also is the wrong paradigm or mind-set to be coming from.

            We are Americans and as such we are exceptional and we yearn to share in the prosperity, not the sacrifice.

            Socialism is anathema to rugged individualism which breeds innovation and invention and achievement and success.

            You don't help anybody by providing for them. 

             

            God help us if we don't get this thing turned around.

            Rdg,

                I wasn't denying what Detroit is I know what it is and what it has become; it's just that when they talk about Detroit all the people of Michigan are put into that roll of defending or explaining themselves. I lived in the city until I was 12 we moved after they tried to fire bomb our house my parents moved us to the burbs and I still live in the burbs.

                And my comment about how we take care of our own was not about welfare but about kicking his A--. I do not like people talking about me by extension that way.

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              Rdg,

                  I wasn't denying what Detroit is I know what it is and what it has become; it's just that when they talk about Detroit all the people of Michigan are put into that roll of defending or explaining themselves. I lived in the city until I was 12 we moved after they tried to fire bomb our house my parents moved us to the burbs and I still live in the burbs.

                  And my comment about how we take care of our own was not about welfare but about kicking his A--. I do not like people talking about me by extension that way.

              Ok susscs, I see where you're coming from.

              Sorry I misunderstood you.


                                                           
                                   
                                                       

               

               

               

               

                                                                                                                 

              "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

                                                                                                          --Edmund Burke

               

               

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                Posted: May 20, 2011, 1:26 pm - IP Logged

                So sad that this lottery winner couldn't embrace his good fortune...

                Peace be w/the victim's family!

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                  Posted: May 21, 2011, 6:56 pm - IP Logged

                  Very sad story...not sure how it turned into a political debate though...smh...

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                    Posted: May 21, 2011, 9:58 pm - IP Logged

                    Very sad story...not sure how it turned into a political debate though...smh...

                    Sorry, we didn't realize you were still here.

                    You said you wanted to leave this country if I recall.

                    You were mad about someone questioning something Obama did or something and you called them stupid and a moron.

                    I hope you don't start the name-calling again.

                    There's no need for that.


                                                                 
                                         
                                                             

                     

                     

                     

                     

                                                                                                                       

                    "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

                                                                                                                --Edmund Burke

                     

                     

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                      Posted: May 22, 2011, 11:27 am - IP Logged

                      I guess he left logic at the door when he went to shoot the man.

                      Whatever happened to just paying the rent, acting professional, and moving on?

                      Wow......complete and utter foolishness.

                      I am a millionaire!

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                        Posted: June 1, 2011, 4:23 pm - IP Logged

                        Sad story.........RIP Mr. McNicol may God bless your family that you leave behind......... true Raven62 there may be more to the story however base on the info that we have this gives Young no right to do what he did. If he felt his daughter was being treated unfailry he should have hired an attorney and persued legal action.

                        OK now on to this lunatic Young, he does not deserve to be addresed as Mr. you deserve everything that you get in prison and then some.....

                        Oh and to the daughter pay your bills!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                        There  just  my  be  more  to  the  story that  did  not  come  out  on  the  NEWS  ...sounds  like  to  me  that  the  daughter  may  have  been  in  bed  with  this  guy and when  the  DAD  found  out  about  the  eviction  and  the  affair  he  shot  him  in  the  groin;

                          It  doesn't  sound  like  it   was  the  Rent  that  got  him  killed;

                        Rant

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                          Posted: June 4, 2011, 3:57 pm - IP Logged

                          You say the accused is evil because he killed someone. And yet you are in favor of the death penalty. Does that not make the state evil?

                          No.  The state can't take away life without the due process of law.  He's evil because he killed someone in cold blood.  The only way for society to most effectively protect the rights of it's citizens from un-just punishment is to ensure due process must be had for any accused before taking away their rights.  The Death Penalty is one of the few tough issues I face, as I fundementally see life as a right government should not take away, however - no man should take away life either, and "allowing" the state to kill after due process is had can be a powerful deterrent.  The one thing that makes me second guess it is that sometimes we do wrongly convict people and killing them would mean we can't even attempt to make it (the fact that they were wrongly convicted) up to them.

                           

                          Still, we're referring to Liberal Idealoagues that lead to people being in perpetual welfare.  I work with homeless people, and I've seen the sense of entitlement most of them have.  I agree whole heartedly that getting rid of incentives that cause people to stay in entitlement programs and welfare prorams, along with Sound Monetary policy is the only way to prevent crime, homelessness, hunger, make education better, etc.  It's not about us directly giving help to those in need, it's about providing the type of eceonomy where those people are incentivized to help them selves rather than be reliant on government.

                           

                          The whole debate is better in person, and better if you've researched the topics at hand and don't base them on ideals, or stuff like that.  Personally I used to be pretty liberal (barely partisan, I don't trust either major political party) until I started studying the issues, the "common sense" liberal solutions, when done on a big scale, usually lead to different results than intended, and usually make the problems worse.  Now I tend to more conservative, but one thing I wish "liberals" would understand about Conservatives is that we aren't un-compassionate.  We just believe that providing short term help to people in need without incentivizing them to find their own long term solution is desctructive to productivity, and I defenitely believe in helping people on an individual to individual basis, not a "we're going to take tax money and force it to be used in a beararcratic enitilement program" type of thing.