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Baltimore feds target Internet gambling sites

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sully16's avatar - sharan
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Posted: May 24, 2011, 8:23 am - IP Logged

To me, it appears the Feds screwed up and this operation was a big mistake.  TWO YEARS of running a huge fake banking scheme, and they have zero arrests.  Just indictments.  Seems to me the biggest losers are not the offshore companies that lost some pretty worthless domain names, but the average citizens who apparently are losing all their money that they wagered.

I wish the Feds would just cut it out, and stop mucking around with the Internet.  Or, if they're going to insist on mucking around with the Internet, how about just focusing on child predators or something truly vile?  Or how about sticking to tracking terrorists using the Internet to communicate?

I'm really sick of the fact that people who simply want to spend their money as they choose is being considered a crime.  How about cracking down on something that INFRINGES on liberty, and stop cracking down on people EXPRESSING their liberty.

Theres one glaring fact no one has thought of, this was Done by Homeland security and immigration, They spent all this time, man hours, money, to catch gamblers and still our borders are under protected, especially in Arizona. Oh thats right they got 33 million, silly me. I feel so much safer knowing those hardened poker players are of the internet, We need people with common sense, Todd your in Jersey, you think you can talk Christie into running.

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    Posted: May 24, 2011, 8:54 am - IP Logged

    To me, it appears the Feds screwed up and this operation was a big mistake.  TWO YEARS of running a huge fake banking scheme, and they have zero arrests.  Just indictments.  Seems to me the biggest losers are not the offshore companies that lost some pretty worthless domain names, but the average citizens who apparently are losing all their money that they wagered.

    I wish the Feds would just cut it out, and stop mucking around with the Internet.  Or, if they're going to insist on mucking around with the Internet, how about just focusing on child predators or something truly vile?  Or how about sticking to tracking terrorists using the Internet to communicate?

    I'm really sick of the fact that people who simply want to spend their money as they choose is being considered a crime.  How about cracking down on something that INFRINGES on liberty, and stop cracking down on people EXPRESSING their liberty.

    Isn't the real motive to stop the gambling because they can't get a piece of the pie?

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      Posted: May 24, 2011, 9:07 am - IP Logged

      Isn't the real motive to stop the gambling because they can't get a piece of the pie?

      I'm sure that's some of it, but the real motivation behind what the Feds decide to do is two-fold:  They want "wins" and they want those wins to be supporting their political agenda.

      The "wins" are important to the "troops" who investigate and carry out the operations, because they are career workers. 

      The political agendas are important to the people authorizing the operations:  the political appointees of the administration.  The priority for things they decide to go after are set from the highest levels of the Justice Department - namely, Eric Holder.  The two-year operation means that the operation was started under Holder.  Certainly he would have direct knowledge, given the scope of the effort.

      If there is a financial aspect, that would likely be driven by the politicians who care about revenues the most, which would be Congress.  I'm sure they do apply pressure, but probably not as much as the two things I've mentioned here.  More likely, the pressure from Congress would be centered on getting rid of independent competition in preparation for certain members of Congress trying to insert the US government as sole arbiter and provider of online gambling.  Ultimately it comes down to money, but indirectly at this point.

       

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        Posted: May 24, 2011, 9:31 am - IP Logged

        I'm sure that's some of it, but the real motivation behind what the Feds decide to do is two-fold:  They want "wins" and they want those wins to be supporting their political agenda.

        The "wins" are important to the "troops" who investigate and carry out the operations, because they are career workers. 

        The political agendas are important to the people authorizing the operations:  the political appointees of the administration.  The priority for things they decide to go after are set from the highest levels of the Justice Department - namely, Eric Holder.  The two-year operation means that the operation was started under Holder.  Certainly he would have direct knowledge, given the scope of the effort.

        If there is a financial aspect, that would likely be driven by the politicians who care about revenues the most, which would be Congress.  I'm sure they do apply pressure, but probably not as much as the two things I've mentioned here.  More likely, the pressure from Congress would be centered on getting rid of independent competition in preparation for certain members of Congress trying to insert the US government as sole arbiter and provider of online gambling.  Ultimately it comes down to money, but indirectly at this point.

        Thanx, I see you did your homework on this....

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          Posted: May 24, 2011, 6:48 pm - IP Logged

          Seems like the real problem is the fact that maryland has tryed 2 stay away from any form of legal gambling and this just shows that  it is a market for all types of betting . Our racetracks lose every day because we want 2 control the money going in and out of the few off track betting keno and pcik 4 pick 3 match five mega millions powerball and rub of tickets . We r so in the dark ages in this town . I think all the bettors should at least get back the money that they used 2 fund their account

          Idea maybe ???

          Evelyn

          thanks 4fourme  glad 2 see we r on the same page

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            Posted: May 24, 2011, 7:45 pm - IP Logged

            Seems like the real problem is the fact that maryland has tryed 2 stay away from any form of legal gambling and this just shows that  it is a market for all types of betting . Our racetracks lose every day because we want 2 control the money going in and out of the few off track betting keno and pcik 4 pick 3 match five mega millions powerball and rub of tickets . We r so in the dark ages in this town . I think all the bettors should at least get back the money that they used 2 fund their account

            Idea maybe ???

            Evelyn

            thanks 4fourme  glad 2 see we r on the same page

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              Posted: May 24, 2011, 8:41 pm - IP Logged

              To me, it appears the Feds screwed up and this operation was a big mistake.  TWO YEARS of running a huge fake banking scheme, and they have zero arrests.  Just indictments.  Seems to me the biggest losers are not the offshore companies that lost some pretty worthless domain names, but the average citizens who apparently are losing all their money that they wagered.

              I wish the Feds would just cut it out, and stop mucking around with the Internet.  Or, if they're going to insist on mucking around with the Internet, how about just focusing on child predators or something truly vile?  Or how about sticking to tracking terrorists using the Internet to communicate?

              I'm really sick of the fact that people who simply want to spend their money as they choose is being considered a crime.  How about cracking down on something that INFRINGES on liberty, and stop cracking down on people EXPRESSING their liberty.

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