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That's funny jimmy. You are looking for logic in all the wrong places.

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    I won't be baited by you Nancy, you sniveling little effeminate twit.

    You're here to preach and troll and your partner, mario the midget, is just here to cause strife cuz he got called out on his pool scam before he could fool anybody and now he's mad at the world and wants to get even.

    You're both an easy read, now run along.

    Well, that's a new one.  Someone makes accusations of disrespect but when they're asked who is being disrespected, they somehow feel baited.  Hmmm.  Mario is right; this really isn't a place to look for logic.

    BTW, is your 1st sentence above designed to elicit anger, fear, loathing, hurt feelings, or a combination of all of these?

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      Well, that's a new one.  Someone makes accusations of disrespect but when they're asked who is being disrespected, they somehow feel baited.  Hmmm.  Mario is right; this really isn't a place to look for logic.

      BTW, is your 1st sentence above designed to elicit anger, fear, loathing, hurt feelings, or a combination of all of these?

      The first sentence wasn't designed to elicit anything, Nancy. Just consider it an illustrative salutation. And if the shoe fits... well, you know...

      You disrespect anybody who disagrees with you so there's no need to go into specifics.

      I bet you never do it man to man, face to face though. The little clown mario either.

      BTW, why don't you two get a room?


                                                   
                           
                                               

       

       

       

       

                                                                                                         

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        Like your new avatar, Nancy.

        Is that you in drag?


                                                     
                             
                                                 

         

         

         

         

                                                                                                           

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          My God that's right ....MY God....., and If you don't assimilate, you're doomed for eternity. And If you don't like it, too bad! See how reasonable that sounds?

          when jimmy asked "whose God"?   to todd,  and you decided to ride his skirt, ,  is there a reason why you didn't belly up to the bar and answer ....."why my undeniable truth in my blogs,  that's who"?

          you sure have minimized yourself down from "undeniable" to "stage fright".

          since you insist on running around the hall with your intellectual schizophrenia for the night,  you should have answered like this ...

          ......that guy that is running the $1000 challenge on his website,  the person in history that he features as a challenge to,  until someone steps up and takes the $1000,  that guy is the leader in the "who is god" lottery sweepstakes.

          i still think it's funny that a guy like you (that is never short of windage),  when he gets his cage rattled by someone that can actually counter your offerings,  you always come back with a counter to the counter, and yet you said squat.

          you were silent,  once i made the notation that your "aliens" haven't alleviated any part of this worlds suffering,  including your '20,000 children a day'  concern.

          instead of addressing a bold claim that you made......you run the other direction

           now thats what i call "undeniable"

          remember,  people with an intolerable amount of intellect far above yours still can't take that $1000 away from that guy.

          and that makes Jesus Christ (as of now)  the king above all kings.

          'logical"  means you do comparison shopping,  but you pick the one that rises to the top,  not the one that fills your "wish list" of what you would like God to be.

          that's the farthest thing from logic

          that's actually how people pick thier 'god' ......"i like this,  i don't like that.  ok,  now THAT'S a god i can live with,  i'll pick him" 

          truth is, God is who He revealed Himself to be thru consistentcy and power throughout all of history.

            you pick Him based solely on who He said He is,  and adjust to that,  whether or not you intially like all 'aspects' of what you think are inequities about him.

          the "20,000 children a day" is good example of a perceived initial 'inequity',  but over time thru trust, God reveals the "why's" of His decision making,  and issues that you had prior are not issues you cannot handle intellectually any longer.

          they become more clear

          the idea that any person in history can manufacture their own version of God,  die,  and then face whoever it is that is God,  and demand that they be square with Him...... is out of their mind 

          only people abherrant TO standards at all cost,  have an aversion to standards,  at all costs. 

          people that employ seeking type wisdom accept the fact of inevitable standards,  and they are willing to adjust when they are able to  recognize something attributable,  and therein lies the only description of a person that finds the "god' that rises to the top.

          everyone else stumbles over their supposed reasoning on the way to excusing away "standards".

          joker cries "foul" because there are standards for an eternal address.  as there should be.

          joker however does not advocate a world with no standards,  where someone can break in his house and steal his guitar and beer,  and not go to jail.

          joker would be  PISSED if someone did that.      but hey,  "standards are unfair", right?

          whoever God is,  one things for certain,  He will have standards,  and your standing with Him will be based on your adjustment to them

                      "i am .........."meant to"       

          P.S.,  that RJoH  is a stand up guy.  thanks,  vision

                   until further notice,  it's  france everyday

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            Hi dallascowboyfan!

            Love your post and I agree!

            I know this story is written from the point of this young man but what if his mother had been praying to God that her son would change his ways of thinking?....

            God makes it very clear that blessing fall on the just and the unjust (Matt 5:45) and He is Sovereign and His thoughts are not our thoughts nor are His ways our ways.....(Isaiah 55)

            Which reminds me...someone mentioned why would God bless this situation when there are starving children?

            God does care about starving children....

            I feel that when you see those commercial of children suffering and you want to scream at God....just know that the fact that you are "watching" that commercial is God screaming at you to do something about it!!!!!

            God has given us (human beings) the power and ability to fix it.....

            If I can spend $1 on a lottery ticket for every drawing....I can come up with $38 bucks a month to send to my sponsor child in Ethiopia so that she can have 3 meals a day and her village can have medicine to fight HIV.

            (I am not saying that everyone reading this should do that...just trying to make a point that God has done His part by giving us life....we can do our part to make it better...esp for someone else).

            Starving children is not the result of a distant God....IT IS NOT HIS FAULT....It is the result of humanity's corruption, greed and lack of compassion......and you don't have to wait to win the lottery to make a difference.

            "For My thoughts are not your thoughts neither are your ways My ways said the Lord.  As the heavens are higher than the earth so are My ways higher than your ways, and My thoughts than your thoughts." (Isaiah 55:7-9)

            You hit the nail on the head..perfecttiming.....Amen....Thumbs Up...Everyone wants to blame God when things go bad or the way things are going in this world but don't see the bigger picture he painted...from all these comments..I haven't really seen any that just talk about how good God is and the good things God has done in people's life...it's always...why did God do this and that  all negativilty about him not anything postive has been said about him...I have had good and bad things happen in my life...but I have accepted it cause it is God's plan...he has a plan for all of us...if he put you in it he will bring you through it...and I have learned to accept this life and all that it has in store for me being bad or good...cause I have a strong faith in my God....and Savior......Amen....


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              You hit the nail on the head..perfecttiming.....Amen....Thumbs Up...Everyone wants to blame God when things go bad or the way things are going in this world but don't see the bigger picture he painted...from all these comments..I haven't really seen any that just talk about how good God is and the good things God has done in people's life...it's always...why did God do this and that  all negativilty about him not anything postive has been said about him...I have had good and bad things happen in my life...but I have accepted it cause it is God's plan...he has a plan for all of us...if he put you in it he will bring you through it...and I have learned to accept this life and all that it has in store for me being bad or good...cause I have a strong faith in my God....and Savior......Amen....

              Like Jimmy said earlier, wich God are you talking about?

              There are thousands to choose from.


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                when jimmy asked "whose God"?   to todd,  and you decided to ride his skirt, ,  is there a reason why you didn't belly up to the bar and answer ....."why my undeniable truth in my blogs,  that's who"?

                you sure have minimized yourself down from "undeniable" to "stage fright".

                since you insist on running around the hall with your intellectual schizophrenia for the night,  you should have answered like this ...

                ......that guy that is running the $1000 challenge on his website,  the person in history that he features as a challenge to,  until someone steps up and takes the $1000,  that guy is the leader in the "who is god" lottery sweepstakes.

                i still think it's funny that a guy like you (that is never short of windage),  when he gets his cage rattled by someone that can actually counter your offerings,  you always come back with a counter to the counter, and yet you said squat.

                you were silent,  once i made the notation that your "aliens" haven't alleviated any part of this worlds suffering,  including your '20,000 children a day'  concern.

                instead of addressing a bold claim that you made......you run the other direction

                 now thats what i call "undeniable"

                remember,  people with an intolerable amount of intellect far above yours still can't take that $1000 away from that guy.

                and that makes Jesus Christ (as of now)  the king above all kings.

                'logical"  means you do comparison shopping,  but you pick the one that rises to the top,  not the one that fills your "wish list" of what you would like God to be.

                that's the farthest thing from logic

                that's actually how people pick thier 'god' ......"i like this,  i don't like that.  ok,  now THAT'S a god i can live with,  i'll pick him" 

                truth is, God is who He revealed Himself to be thru consistentcy and power throughout all of history.

                  you pick Him based solely on who He said He is,  and adjust to that,  whether or not you intially like all 'aspects' of what you think are inequities about him.

                the "20,000 children a day" is good example of a perceived initial 'inequity',  but over time thru trust, God reveals the "why's" of His decision making,  and issues that you had prior are not issues you cannot handle intellectually any longer.

                they become more clear

                the idea that any person in history can manufacture their own version of God,  die,  and then face whoever it is that is God,  and demand that they be square with Him...... is out of their mind 

                only people abherrant TO standards at all cost,  have an aversion to standards,  at all costs. 

                people that employ seeking type wisdom accept the fact of inevitable standards,  and they are willing to adjust when they are able to  recognize something attributable,  and therein lies the only description of a person that finds the "god' that rises to the top.

                everyone else stumbles over their supposed reasoning on the way to excusing away "standards".

                joker cries "foul" because there are standards for an eternal address.  as there should be.

                joker however does not advocate a world with no standards,  where someone can break in his house and steal his guitar and beer,  and not go to jail.

                joker would be  PISSED if someone did that.      but hey,  "standards are unfair", right?

                whoever God is,  one things for certain,  He will have standards,  and your standing with Him will be based on your adjustment to them

                the idea that any person in history can manufacture their own version of God,  die,  and then face whoever it is that is God,  and demand that they be square with Him...... is out of their mind

                 

                Excuse me? Did you just tell me I'm out of my mind?

                OMG, that has to be a joke right?

                Ok, so let me get this straight. You're not out of your mind because you decide to believe a book out of thousands of other books who all claim to be correct, but that's normal?

                YOU are the one who is manufacturing that nonsense, not me.

                What nerve, to call me crazy, coming from a delusional character like you..............Crazy

                Please Vision....get some help...please.


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                  Wow, you still wanna call the shots, don'tcha?

                  Joker's drunk right now so I'll cut him some slack for talking his nonsense but I'd love to introduce you and Nancy to a Tennessee smackdown someday, you disrespectful little punk.

                  If I was sober I would've witten what I did.

                  There are no absolutes in this life, except for death. No one and I mean no one knows for sure whether any of the religions are true. Good feelings in their chest and a tingling up the spine is not good enough for me.

                  People think they know how God feels and what he's thinking, how he would deal with this and that. It's amazing how they know so much about him....simply amazing.

                  Brilliant minds have been debating this for eons, yet Joe Schmo from Nantucket knows the answer. He knows who the right God is, how he behaves, what his intentions are, and his favorite drink.

                  It's like If I said I knew for sure what the next six numbers are in the JP game, and never be able to prove it. I not only make that proclomation once, but everyday of my life, never being able to prove it. I think there's a word for that. It's called DELUSIONAL....

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                    If I was sober I would've witten what I did.

                    There are no absolutes in this life, except for death. No one and I mean no one knows for sure whether any of the religions are true. Good feelings in their chest and a tingling up the spine is not good enough for me.

                    People think they know how God feels and what he's thinking, how he would deal with this and that. It's amazing how they know so much about him....simply amazing.

                    Brilliant minds have been debating this for eons, yet Joe Schmo from Nantucket knows the answer. He knows who the right God is, how he behaves, what his intentions are, and his favorite drink.

                    It's like If I said I knew for sure what the next six numbers are in the JP game, and never be able to prove it. I not only make that proclomation once, but everyday of my life, never being able to prove it. I think there's a word for that. It's called DELUSIONAL....

                    "There are no absolutes in this life, except for death. No one and I mean no one knows for sure whether any of the religions are true".

                     there most certainly are.

                    just because you don't want to know,  doesn't exclude the fact that millions of people know.

                    if there is a God,  He has standards,  and the only way He could have standards is that we are accountable to those standards,  if He has made Himself known.

                    the idea that God "cannot be known' is a 1,000 times more ludicrous if there is a God.

                    millions of people know,   your just mad about the 'standards' portion because you want to make up your own rules and live by those.

                    at least be man enough to admit it,  you have a problem with authority,  and you want to be your own 'god'.

                    that's fine,  just add yourself to that long list you posted

                                "i am .........."meant to"       

                    P.S.,  that RJoH  is a stand up guy.  thanks,  vision

                             until further notice,  it's  france everyday

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                      the idea that any person in history can manufacture their own version of God,  die,  and then face whoever it is that is God,  and demand that they be square with Him...... is out of their mind

                       

                      Excuse me? Did you just tell me I'm out of my mind?

                      OMG, that has to be a joke right?

                      Ok, so let me get this straight. You're not out of your mind because you decide to believe a book out of thousands of other books who all claim to be correct, but that's normal?

                      YOU are the one who is manufacturing that nonsense, not me.

                      What nerve, to call me crazy, coming from a delusional character like you..............Crazy

                      Please Vision....get some help...please.

                      "Excuse me? Did you just tell me I'm out of my mind"? 

                      by running definition you are out of your mind, yes.

                      you think you can mock God day in and day out,  and still think that someday when you die you will be 'accepted' by him.

                      you talk trash about someone,  and your delusional enough to think the person is going to be cool with you.   there isn't a relationship on the planet that survives that kind of onslaught over time,  and most certainly God won't accept that as "relationship material".

                      "Ok, so let me get this straight. You're not out of your mind because you decide to believe a book out of thousands of other books who all claim to be correct, but that's normal"?

                       i can afford to bank my live (including my eternity) on that "book".   it's not just A book out of history measured among others,  it's the written word of God handed down thru the experiences of men that served Him.   

                      in normal to trust something that's proven to be trustworthy,  and because you can measure the trustworthy factor thru the microscope of fulfilled prophecy,  then yes,  it stands alone  in history above all the other "books"

                      100% accurcy SCREAMS "trustworthy"

                      "YOU are the one who is manufacturing that nonsense, not me".

                       au contraire. 

                      you made the same EXACT bold claim as i did with your alien vids.

                      you said it was "undeniable proof",  and yet you are now deftly silent on the matter.

                      you accuse me of nonsense,  yet between the 2 of us there is ZERO 'proof" of alien existence thru out history,  yet when measured against biblical history on any level (science, archaeology, historical documentation of people who actually LIVED, fulfilled prophecy, documentation OF the documentation "documented" by people who were antagonistic toward the bibles "history", etc, etc etc),  and yet you think i am the one that's nuts.

                      i demonstrated that between the 2 of us you had nothing to base your belief on,  when i noted your 'aliens" can't save the 20,000 children starving in the world .

                      i base my belief in proven history,  so yeah,  the delusion belongs as your definition

                                  "i am .........."meant to"       

                      P.S.,  that RJoH  is a stand up guy.  thanks,  vision

                               until further notice,  it's  france everyday

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                        If I was sober I would've witten what I did.

                        There are no absolutes in this life, except for death. No one and I mean no one knows for sure whether any of the religions are true. Good feelings in their chest and a tingling up the spine is not good enough for me.

                        People think they know how God feels and what he's thinking, how he would deal with this and that. It's amazing how they know so much about him....simply amazing.

                        Brilliant minds have been debating this for eons, yet Joe Schmo from Nantucket knows the answer. He knows who the right God is, how he behaves, what his intentions are, and his favorite drink.

                        It's like If I said I knew for sure what the next six numbers are in the JP game, and never be able to prove it. I not only make that proclomation once, but everyday of my life, never being able to prove it. I think there's a word for that. It's called DELUSIONAL....

                        "No one and I mean no one knows for sure..."

                        And how do you know that?

                        You don't know that any more than Joe Schmo from Nantucket.

                        Let me tell you something, Joker, there are people who know.

                        People that have had experiences that they have never discussed with anyone and never will. Because once you've had the experience you would never trivialize it by putting it up for public scrutiny as if it needed to be verified or validated by people who could never even fathom the wonder and awe of it. Because there are people like you and Nancy and the little clown mario who appoint themselves the authorities on anything supernatural based purely on your personal experience of it. Which is none.

                        If the three of you haven't personally experienced anything of a divine supernatural nature, then it just couldn't happen. Your minds are closed to it. How conceited is that? 

                        I think the crux of the situation here though is the preaching bent of your little triumvirate with the atheist/agnostic/humanist agenda. You mock the phony tv preachers but you seem to be on a mission to convert people to your way of thinking more than any phony evangelist ever known. Christians here have to spend time everyday defending their beliefs because of attacks and ridicule from the three of you for something as benign as saying "thank God".

                        How about we all just live and let live?

                        You guys keep watching the sky for spacemen and everybody else does whatever they want without being harassed.

                        Or would that suggestion be too delusional to try?


                                                                     
                                             
                                                                 

                         

                         

                         

                         

                                                                                                                           

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                          Like Jimmy said earlier, wich God are you talking about?

                          There are thousands to choose from.

                          Spiritual laws never change, regardless of what "in the name of" you put them with.

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                            Spiritual laws never change, regardless of what "in the name of" you put them with.

                            I don't know about that one Tenaj. The Bible has a very thin spectrum for folks who enter heaven and those who don't based on rules and regulations. If you don't believe Christ was your savior, you're doomed.

                            I don't adhere to any of the rules because there are literally thousands of religions that also have rules. They can't all be correct.

                            I'm spiritual but not brainwashed.


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                              "No one and I mean no one knows for sure..."

                              And how do you know that?

                              You don't know that any more than Joe Schmo from Nantucket.

                              Let me tell you something, Joker, there are people who know.

                              People that have had experiences that they have never discussed with anyone and never will. Because once you've had the experience you would never trivialize it by putting it up for public scrutiny as if it needed to be verified or validated by people who could never even fathom the wonder and awe of it. Because there are people like you and Nancy and the little clown mario who appoint themselves the authorities on anything supernatural based purely on your personal experience of it. Which is none.

                              If the three of you haven't personally experienced anything of a divine supernatural nature, then it just couldn't happen. Your minds are closed to it. How conceited is that? 

                              I think the crux of the situation here though is the preaching bent of your little triumvirate with the atheist/agnostic/humanist agenda. You mock the phony tv preachers but you seem to be on a mission to convert people to your way of thinking more than any phony evangelist ever known. Christians here have to spend time everyday defending their beliefs because of attacks and ridicule from the three of you for something as benign as saying "thank God".

                              How about we all just live and let live?

                              You guys keep watching the sky for spacemen and everybody else does whatever they want without being harassed.

                              Or would that suggestion be too delusional to try?

                              They've done tests where the person's brain was exposed while the patient was a wake and they touched certain areas of the brain. The person had many visions and felt a presence at times. Many had religous experiences as well.

                              No One knows. Those experiences could be from any number of sources. The brain is a powerful machine that can do many many things. If not for the brain, everything would be nothing but a soup of nonsensical particles and waves. It's the brain which makes this world a reality, and I say reality very lightly. Reality is as good as the perceiver of the information. And even If they did have a supernatural experience that had nothing to do with the brain, it doesn't mean one particular religion is correct. It may very well be a spiritual experience, but doesn't prove who's God is correct and who's isn't.

                              I'm not trying to convert anyone here. I'm simply showing alternative thought processes other than ones that have been implanted into religous folks minds as the TRUTH. Everyone has truths. You call it attacks, I call it education.

                              I could live and let live, but If someone has the freedom to interject their religous beliefs in a thread as truth, I also have that right to disagree.

                              Now that doesn't seem delusional does it?

                                 
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