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joker17,

The only reason I stopped using the system was that it takes a 3 year learning curve to get it down to where you can make a living off it, and I don't have that much patience.

I also know someone who uses Wisconsin p-4 and plays online. This person has made over a quarter of a million bucks in the last 6 months. But you need at least 3 ot 5 thousand bucks bankroll to start, which I will be doing in a year or so.

The keys there are deep enough pockets to sustain a three year learning curve or a 5 large BR to start playing with.

That's not you average players trying to make a little something extra to get ahead.

We had a guy in Vegas who had a way to beat the dog tracks. So the sports books barred him. Nice system until no one will book your action, then where are you?

Obviously you don't have a clue about dog racing. The track doesn't give to shcmidts how much money a person makes because they make their money up front. The monies given out is parimutel and split amongst the winners...Disapprove


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    First you say this:

    "I'm really getting tired of repeating myself over and over again.

     

    Testimonials are not proof to me."

     

     

     

    Then you say this:

    "I also know someone who uses Wisconsin p-4 and plays online. This person has made over a quarter of a million bucks in the last 6 months."

     

    So please explain to me how you reconcile those two statements.

    Why do you say that you don't believe testimonials and then give a second-hand  testimonial from some guy on the internet who told you he won $250,000 playing Pick4 in 6 months?

    Now, you didn't say this person says  he won a quarter mill. You said he won a quarter mill. That's you saying it. So obviously you saw the proof because you don't believe testimonials.

    Ok then, let's see the proof.

    He gave me the numbers ahead of time, before the draw for a period of a month so I can see for myself. This person plays a lot of numbers in the p-4. But when this person wins, this person wins multiple times straight. Only plays staright online for maximum payoff.

    This person is willing to give me the same numbers played in Wisconsin, but I don't have the bankroll to start, just yet.

    It was proven to me beforehand.


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      the above post is a perfect example of why i ride his purple pumperknickle pageant donkey up and down the halls of LP.

      the inconsistencty of his words,  and his ensuing actions in comparison to his words.       they don't match up

      i cannot wait for the "explantion" out of this most recent spotlight,  but you can bet it will look like this -----> Puke

       

      he screams "foul" all the time,  but refuses to confirm todd had that conversation with me in 2008.  gee, i wonder why?

      i offer up my anonymity to him,  to show him physical documented evidence, so that i can demonstrate i am a man of my word,  and he totally wusses on that.    nevermind,  i know why...

       

      doesn't even have the guts to straight up call me a liar,  and that i am only making it up.

      he has to,  otherwise he has to give an 'explanation' how something like that could happen everyday for nearly 3 years.

      (1)  i am either lying about it.     (and don't call it "fabrication",  that's the politically correct wuss term.  it's lying,  if that's what it is).

      (2)  or there has to be a reasonable explanation why it's happening outside of Gods orchaestration,  because for that length of time,  if you pick truth over agenda on any side of your coin,  it's still impossible for anyone to duplicate that on thier own.

      (joker's "experiment" only lasted 2 days)

      (3)  or it is orchaestrated by God    (which is exactly what i claim it is,  mirroring the consistentcy i have maintained in LP for all the years i have been here.....never altering that "position" a millimeter ever)

       

      the fact that joker has never addressed 1,2 or 3......indicates all one needs to know about him, in deciphering his motives in these threads

      he doesn't have the guts to call me a liar,  because he knows i am not,  and refused to prove i "was",  by not confirming with todd.   he won't make the arrangements necessary to view my journal because he knows i am not lying about it.

      which effectively reduces him to choices 2 and 3.

      trouble is,  he doesn't have an "explanation" to explain the number 2 phenomenom.

      which if we apply the math,  reduces him down to number 1.   and we all know how he feels about #1,  because we experience his angst about it on a regular basis.

      which drives his nutzo,  and makes him think he HAS to climb back up the factual addition scale,  to "believe' #2 and #1 so he can continue his "quest"

      go ahead joker,  man up,  and mirror your persona in here by straight up calling me a liar,  that i am either lying about parts or all of it.    if i lie about anything once, my whole house of cards at LP burns to the ground,  so go ahead and do it,  so we can all view it publically,  so we will all have a recorded history to review someday.

      go ahead,  i dare you,  you will not hurt my feelings,  and it will in the long run serve my purpose.

      well,   not really "my purpose"

      you can't label me delusional,  because i have written proof and eyewitness testimony

      you HAVE to call me a liar

      YOU'RE A LIAR.....!!!!

      Happy?

      Actually, i really don't believe you're lying, just twisting the truth or embellishing it. Like I said before, it's possible to look for things like France subconciously. You may not be puposely looking for them, but in the back of your mind you are....

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        He gave me the numbers ahead of time, before the draw for a period of a month so I can see for myself. This person plays a lot of numbers in the p-4. But when this person wins, this person wins multiple times straight. Only plays staright online for maximum payoff.

        This person is willing to give me the same numbers played in Wisconsin, but I don't have the bankroll to start, just yet.

        It was proven to me beforehand.

        What are you saying, that we should just believe your testimonial, without proof?

        Is that what you do?


                                                     
                             
                                                 

         

         

         

         

                                                                                                           

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          Obviously you don't have a clue about dog racing. The track doesn't give to shcmidts how much money a person makes because they make their money up front. The monies given out is parimutel and split amongst the winners...Disapprove

          joker17,

          Obviosuly you just knee-jerk and reply without reading what you're replying to. Did I say the dog track barred him? I said the sportsbook barred him.

          A lot of people play at sports and racebooks because the track doesn't make a dime off of them, there's no parking or entry fee or any of that.

          Really gone dog and pony bettors move to Nevada for that very reason (if there's no OTB where they live).

          As for the Pick 4 system, why not just borrow the 5 large and make your score and post your winning tickets in the winnign ticket thread, if you're that confident about it. Or are you?

          Does the guy also give out other number to other people? So many that he's going to show a winner somewhere? Ever heard of Mike W? His Five-Star NFL picks went 15-2 season after season, just ask him.

          Just a word to the wise, when Mike Tyson was in his heyday, some of his fights had odds of -2500.  In other words, you had to lay $2500 to win $100 if you bet on Tyson. Then one day he was boxing a guy named Buster Douglas in Japan. The bookies loved that one.

          Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

          Lep

          There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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            YOU'RE A LIAR.....!!!!

            Happy?

            Actually, i really don't believe you're lying, just twisting the truth or embellishing it. Like I said before, it's possible to look for things like France subconciously. You may not be puposely looking for them, but in the back of your mind you are....

            twisting the truth or 'embellishing' it  ------>  is lying.

            there is no grey area in these matters.

            once a person moves one stitch toward twisting the truth,  they have lost all things sacred in the truth game,  and their position falls to the ground in unbelievable fashion (pun intended)

            but that's not an explanation when it comes to occurances beyond my control.

            i cannot make a student say it,  especially when we were not talking about anything that would lend itself to that.

            i cannot "orchaestrate" seeing references to paris or france in a movie where there is no previous indication the movie i was about to see had french references in it. 

            how do i "make that happen"?

            on and on and on.    if you could eliminate all the days my "french" occurances happened without my making them happen,  and you could subtract those from the streak,  and demonstrate one day  where that broke the streak,  then and only then would you have a case against me of it me just being aware of it.

            funny,  i don't see you copying that feat,  since it's so "factual" it's just because i am looking for it.

            you know all these anti "contradiction" arguements,  but you refuse to do one simple qualification test of your own.

            between the two of us, your the one that's lying about it,  because you can't (and won't) duplicate what you claim is "happening"

            it's a running ethical joke in comparisons to your spouting matches

            *****************************************************************************************

             

            yes i "look" for france everyday,  and you know given my claims ........i have to,  to see if it's still on,   or it's over.

             

            i think i said it before,   sometimes it's taken all the way up to around 11:50pm or so to happen before the disqualification time of 12am.    right up to the nubbin,  but hook slides right into home where the umpire has to call "SAAAAAAFE"

                        "i am .........."meant to"       

            P.S.,  that RJoH  is a stand up guy.  thanks,  vision

                     until further notice,  it's  france everyday


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              What are you saying, that we should just believe your testimonial, without proof?

              Is that what you do?

              I just got done saying he showed me the numbers he was gonna play before the draws, and they hit like he said. That's enough proof for me.


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                joker17,

                Obviosuly you just knee-jerk and reply without reading what you're replying to. Did I say the dog track barred him? I said the sportsbook barred him.

                A lot of people play at sports and racebooks because the track doesn't make a dime off of them, there's no parking or entry fee or any of that.

                Really gone dog and pony bettors move to Nevada for that very reason (if there's no OTB where they live).

                As for the Pick 4 system, why not just borrow the 5 large and make your score and post your winning tickets in the winnign ticket thread, if you're that confident about it. Or are you?

                Does the guy also give out other number to other people? So many that he's going to show a winner somewhere? Ever heard of Mike W? His Five-Star NFL picks went 15-2 season after season, just ask him.

                Just a word to the wise, when Mike Tyson was in his heyday, some of his fights had odds of -2500.  In other words, you had to lay $2500 to win $100 if you bet on Tyson. Then one day he was boxing a guy named Buster Douglas in Japan. The bookies loved that one.

                You wanna lend me the 5 large?


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                  twisting the truth or 'embellishing' it  ------>  is lying.

                  there is no grey area in these matters.

                  once a person moves one stitch toward twisting the truth,  they have lost all things sacred in the truth game,  and their position falls to the ground in unbelievable fashion (pun intended)

                  but that's not an explanation when it comes to occurances beyond my control.

                  i cannot make a student say it,  especially when we were not talking about anything that would lend itself to that.

                  i cannot "orchaestrate" seeing references to paris or france in a movie where there is no previous indication the movie i was about to see had french references in it. 

                  how do i "make that happen"?

                  on and on and on.    if you could eliminate all the days my "french" occurances happened without my making them happen,  and you could subtract those from the streak,  and demonstrate one day  where that broke the streak,  then and only then would you have a case against me of it me just being aware of it.

                  funny,  i don't see you copying that feat,  since it's so "factual" it's just because i am looking for it.

                  you know all these anti "contradiction" arguements,  but you refuse to do one simple qualification test of your own.

                  between the two of us, your the one that's lying about it,  because you can't (and won't) duplicate what you claim is "happening"

                  it's a running ethical joke in comparisons to your spouting matches

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                  yes i "look" for france everyday,  and you know given my claims ........i have to,  to see if it's still on,   or it's over.

                   

                  i think i said it before,   sometimes it's taken all the way up to around 11:50pm or so to happen before the disqualification time of 12am.    right up to the nubbin,  but hook slides right into home where the umpire has to call "SAAAAAAFE"

                  More lies....

                  Give it up already. Your claims are only that...CLAIMS....

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                    twisting the truth or 'embellishing' it  ------>  is lying.

                    there is no grey area in these matters.

                    once a person moves one stitch toward twisting the truth,  they have lost all things sacred in the truth game,  and their position falls to the ground in unbelievable fashion (pun intended)

                    but that's not an explanation when it comes to occurances beyond my control.

                    i cannot make a student say it,  especially when we were not talking about anything that would lend itself to that.

                    i cannot "orchaestrate" seeing references to paris or france in a movie where there is no previous indication the movie i was about to see had french references in it. 

                    how do i "make that happen"?

                    on and on and on.    if you could eliminate all the days my "french" occurances happened without my making them happen,  and you could subtract those from the streak,  and demonstrate one day  where that broke the streak,  then and only then would you have a case against me of it me just being aware of it.

                    funny,  i don't see you copying that feat,  since it's so "factual" it's just because i am looking for it.

                    you know all these anti "contradiction" arguements,  but you refuse to do one simple qualification test of your own.

                    between the two of us, your the one that's lying about it,  because you can't (and won't) duplicate what you claim is "happening"

                    it's a running ethical joke in comparisons to your spouting matches

                    *****************************************************************************************

                     

                    yes i "look" for france everyday,  and you know given my claims ........i have to,  to see if it's still on,   or it's over.

                     

                    i think i said it before,   sometimes it's taken all the way up to around 11:50pm or so to happen before the disqualification time of 12am.    right up to the nubbin,  but hook slides right into home where the umpire has to call "SAAAAAAFE"

                    when my reputation is on the line,  i will wait around to see what someone attempts to do to it,  to either actually bother to test out what i say thru provided testable methodologies,  or if they are only interested in their agenda,  and not the "truth".

                    when it descends that far,   where they pull up just short of calling me a liar in reference to not being willing on my part to back up whatever i am claiming at that conversation,  i reach for the gearshift and throw it into a higher gear.

                    the last thing you will ever catch me doing in these scenario's is pulling the emergency brake,  or going in reverse.

                    hence,  here is my "keeping my word"...

                    my journal pic

                                "i am .........."meant to"       

                    P.S.,  that RJoH  is a stand up guy.  thanks,  vision

                             until further notice,  it's  france everyday

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                      and another one.  i eliminated portions that contained personal info.   the dates and times are there.

                      "still france everyday"  doesn't mean occasionally, once in awhile,  only when i "make it happen"

                      the great thing about my life. .......i don't need to fabricate anything about it.  i just let it happen,  and adjust accordingly.

                      which is why a guy like me can experience things like these.

                      guys like you, who don't want to,  never will

                      france proof

                                  "i am .........."meant to"       

                      P.S.,  that RJoH  is a stand up guy.  thanks,  vision

                               until further notice,  it's  france everyday

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                        that's a crock,  as far as why you "believe" the alledged proof. 

                        you believe it only because it solely favors something you want to be true.

                        you suffer from selective proof inhalation.

                         

                        i showed you prior written beforehand proof i had, and you systematically reject it just because it doesn't favor how you want these things to shake out.

                        you even schickened out of asking todd,  to check behind me to "prove" i was lying

                        like i said accurately about you,  i could win the lottery in france, and your selective proof inhalation would reach all time toxic levels.   

                        the excuses on that one would probably make you self implode even

                        give yourself a break, joker.

                        "proof" isn't what you run to anyway

                                    "i am .........."meant to"       

                        P.S.,  that RJoH  is a stand up guy.  thanks,  vision

                                 until further notice,  it's  france everyday

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                          france, oh yeah

                           

                           

                          i could go on ya know.   i do have nearly 3 years of documentation. 

                          i created a timeline for you and anyone else to examine.

                            aug 2008 is my first entry about it after "it" started crossing the line from "ummm, there might BE something here",  to "definetly there is something here,   and i better document it".

                          aug 2008 till now.      not one day missed on the validation scale.

                                      "i am .........."meant to"       

                          P.S.,  that RJoH  is a stand up guy.  thanks,  vision

                                   until further notice,  it's  france everyday

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                            You wanna lend me the 5 large?

                            To play lotto with?

                            The vig would eat up any winnings you did make.

                            Scared

                            Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                            Lep

                            There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                              Joker, are you going to at least thank me for doing a job you were unwilling to do?

                                          "i am .........."meant to"       

                              P.S.,  that RJoH  is a stand up guy.  thanks,  vision

                                       until further notice,  it's  france everyday

                                 
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