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Atheist converts after mock prayer to win $1M lottery is answered

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"Here is what I asked:  So what is respectful?  Where is the middle ground?

Say this is my post to this million dollar winner:   Complete coincidence...period."

From your answer above, I can't tell if you approve of this or not?   An agenda can be extremely bias in either direction.  Some people post bible scriptures - that is an pro agenda in the extreme.  I am trying to find the middle ground where you would accept a response as respectful.  The point is that one can disagree and still be respectful - that is what I am trying to determine.

Here it is again with some variations, pick which one you would say is middle ground or not worthy of a "long" discussion:

A) "Complete coincidence...period."

B)"I don't want to force any religious beliefs on anyone, because I am an  agnostic."

C)"So God only answers mock prayers?"

D) "Wow, this guy is VERY arrogant to think "God" answered his lottery prayer."

 

 

"The point is that one can disagree and still be respectful - that is what I am trying to determine."

Someone will always say you're being disrespectful when you disagree with their opinion because they believe their opinion is the only one that counts. This topic is an example of how opinions of "coincidence" can be disrespected by those believing "a mock prayer was answered by Divine intervention" and vice versa. Even a middle ground opinion like since the lottery ticket was purchased at a church ran function, there is a probability that others prayed their ticket would win for various reasons would create disagreements on how the prayer answering process works.

My opinion on this topic is I'm little bit skeptical on the timing of the mock prayer and the change from atheist to believer because people will say anything when $1 million is involve

VD said: "case in point,  stacks latest underhanded swipe about the thread going "way off topic"

it is gone that way,  compared to it's original intent,  but the only reason stack the instigator stuck his head around the corner from the tree he hides

behind is to make an attempt to shut it down,  merely because he doesn't like the content."

VD certainly proved it's impossible for him to be respectful even after agreeing with my opinion this thread has gone way off topic by saying my "only reason" is something he made up. I don't read VD's posts, but it's ironic that in the post you quoted, VD helped you make your determination.

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    Same treatment means I can criticize you guys the same way you criticize anybody who mentions God.

    Joker doesn't think I should be able to do that.

    He says that if I criticize him for what he says, I'm telling him what he can or can't say.

    He wants free reign to criticize anybody he wants but he doesn't want anybody criticizing him. 

     

    If that is still unclear to you, I don't know how else to put it.

    Let me rephrase it.

    IF I posted "Complete coincidence...period."

    Is that middle ground? - is that respectful enough that you would NOT criticize it?

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      That's not true at all. You were the one early on telling me NOT to make comments when someone on the forums mentions God. Don't you remember the countless times you kept saying something like......"Just let it be"......or something similar? If you want, to, you know I can go back and show you.

      I don't care If someone disagrees with me, what I don't like is when someone other than the owner or moderator of this site dictates what I can't write...well too bad, it ain't gonna happen, so you better get used to it.

      In this thread, all I wrote in the beginning was "100% coincidence"....so you're telling me I can't write this because it shows hate for believers?....ARE YOU FREAKING OUT OF YOUR MIND.....Here's the link below.

      The link below shows RIDGE saying, without quoting anyone, that "he can't believe the hate from non-believers have for Christians, and the funny thing is that they're all gutless cowards"...Well, guess what PAL, we have a right to comment, and YOU'RE not the FREAKING POLICE.....GET OVER IT AND GO HAVE ANOTHER DRINK.

      http://www.lotterypost.com/news/232109/2077025

       

      It wasn't enough that Ridge coundn't believe the SUPPOSED hate from non believers, but he also knows that they are GUTLESS COWARDS.

      So you want to bring on the B.S. about name calling, maybe YOU SHOULD START WITH YOURSELF........!!!!!!!!

       

      Again, you write what you write, and I'll write what I want to write....GET IT?

      There's an all-out assault on Christianity going on in this country and it is fully backed by the liberal establishment and spread primarily by little runts and pukes like you. I couldn't live with myself if I didn't say something (Luke 19: 40).

      Yeah, I called you all gutless cowards. Why? Because I know not one of you would dare say a word of this garbage to my face.

      Which would be a wise choice for you. Cowardly, but wise.

      Somebody please shoot me when I start taking orders from some little runt cab driver, please.


                                                   
                           
                                               

       

       

       

       

                                                                                                         

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        Let me rephrase it.

        IF I posted "Complete coincidence...period."

        Is that middle ground? - is that respectful enough that you would NOT criticize it?

        Absolutely.

        It's when the hate-filled religious lecturing or ridicule starts because somebody mentions prayer that I respond with my opinion.

        Then he goes berserk screaming that I'm telling him what he can or cannot say.  Crazy 

        He wants to be the final unimpeachable, unquestioned authority on everything.

        Uh... Ain't happenin'.


                                                     
                             
                                                 

         

         

         

         

                                                                                                           

        "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

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          There's an all-out assault on Christianity going on in this country and it is fully backed by the liberal establishment and spread primarily by little runts and pukes like you. I couldn't live with myself if I didn't say something (Luke 19: 40).

          Yeah, I called you all gutless cowards. Why? Because I know not one of you would dare say a word of this garbage to my face.

          Which would be a wise choice for you. Cowardly, but wise.

          Somebody please shoot me when I start taking orders from some little runt cab driver, please.

          I'd gladly say this to your face punk, any freaking time asswipe. You think I'm afraid of an loser like you. In fact, it would make my freaking day.

          I'm not scared of any man because they bleed just like I do. Trust me little fellow, I grew up in N.Y. and faced gang members with one in the back of the line with a pistol in his hand.  You really believe I'm afarid of dumbass backward hillybilly?

          Give me a freking break.

           

          I hope more and more folks read this thread to see the real Ridge.

          Instead of criticizing me of what I write SPECIFICALLY, he continues to attack me with cheap shots about my origin with and some cab driver insults to boot.

          He can't even get his facts straight. I'm not a liberal, conservative, or any of that crap. And it's not an attck on Christianity, it's an attack on a-holes like you who want to suppress what people with other beliefs systems can write in a public forum.'

          Guess what, I'll be gald to put you out of your misery. One less moron in the world is fine with me.

          YOU'RE A RACIST  HYPOCRITE......!!

          Imagine that, a Racist accusing me of attacking Christianity.

          The pot calling the kettle black. Ridge you are a joke to me.


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            Absolutely.

            It's when the hate-filled religious lecturing or ridicule starts because somebody mentions prayer that I respond with my opinion.

            Then he goes berserk screaming that I'm telling him what he can or cannot say.  Crazy 

            He wants to be the final unimpeachable, unquestioned authority on everything.

            Uh... Ain't happenin'.

            You have just as much hate filled in your posts as you claim I have. Stop being such a Racist hypocrite.

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              I'd gladly say this to your face punk, any freaking time asswipe. You think I'm afraid of an loser like you. In fact, it would make my freaking day.

              I'm not scared of any man because they bleed just like I do. Trust me little fellow, I grew up in N.Y. and faced gang members with one in the back of the line with a pistol in his hand.  You really believe I'm afarid of dumbass backward hillybilly?

              Give me a freking break.

               

              I hope more and more folks read this thread to see the real Ridge.

              Instead of criticizing me of what I write SPECIFICALLY, he continues to attack me with cheap shots about my origin with and some cab driver insults to boot.

              He can't even get his facts straight. I'm not a liberal, conservative, or any of that crap. And it's not an attck on Christianity, it's an attack on a-holes like you who want to suppress what people with other beliefs systems can write in a public forum.'

              Guess what, I'll be gald to put you out of your misery. One less moron in the world is fine with me.

              YOU'RE A RACIST  HYPOCRITE......!!

              Imagine that, a Racist accusing me of attacking Christianity.

              The pot calling the kettle black. Ridge you are a joke to me.

              You ain't got the cojones, boy.

              You're all talk.

              And you know it.


                                                           
                                   
                                                       

               

               

               

               

                                                                                                                 

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                You ain't got the cojones, boy.

                You're all talk.

                And you know it.

                Tough internet punks. You gotta love it. They're tough because they have hudreds of miles separating them. What a douche.

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                  Tough internet punks. You gotta love it. They're tough because they have hudreds of miles separating them. What a douche.

                  Don't you wish you had a woman around to take your hostilities out on right about now?

                  Sorry, you can't do that here.

                  Get used to it.

                  You live by our rules now, joker.

                  Don't like it? Go back to your cave, sonny boy.


                                                               
                                       
                                                           

                   

                   

                   

                   

                                                                                                                     

                  "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

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                    Don't you wish you had a woman around to take your hostilities out on right about now?

                    Sorry, you can't do that here.

                    Get used to it.

                    You live by our rules now, joker.

                    Don't like it? Go back to your cave, sonny boy.

                    And you call yourself a Christian? What a joke. Where's the part about tolerence, turning the other cheek and so on. You lack everything a true Christian prides themselves with.

                    You are a Christian wannabe.

                    I don't live by your rules. If anyone is breaking any rules around here is you. You started the name calling and racist remarks. If I were the owner of this site, you'd be gone a long time ago.

                    The only reason I started calling you hillbilly is because I stooped down to your level, which was my bad. I should've just continued with what I was writing and let everyone see your true colors.

                    A Christian wannabe who doesn't even abide by his Bible's teachings.

                    You give Christianity a BAD name.

                    Just like Ghandi said....."I would probably be a Christian If it weren't for Christians". How it so ironically fits this thread.

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                      And you call yourself a Christian? What a joke. Where's the part about tolerence, turning the other cheek and so on. You lack everything a true Christian prides themselves with.

                      You are a Christian wannabe.

                      I don't live by your rules. If anyone is breaking any rules around here is you. You started the name calling and racist remarks. If I were the owner of this site, you'd be gone a long time ago.

                      The only reason I started calling you hillbilly is because I stooped down to your level, which was my bad. I should've just continued with what I was writing and let everyone see your true colors.

                      A Christian wannabe who doesn't even abide by his Bible's teachings.

                      You give Christianity a BAD name.

                      Just like Ghandi said....."I would probably be a Christian If it weren't for Christians". How it so ironically fits this thread.

                      I am chief among sinners, joker.

                      You know how we are to turn the other cheek and that is why you attack us because you don't want anybody who fights back. But I fight back, too bad for you.

                      That's why you aren't constantly ridiculing and attacking muslims because they will chop your head off for simply disagreeing with them. Yes, your people.

                      All part and parcel of why you are a gutless coward.


                                                                   
                                           
                                                               

                       

                       

                       

                       

                                                                                                                         

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                        There's an all-out assault on Christianity going on in this country and it is fully backed by the liberal establishment and spread primarily by little runts and pukes like you. I couldn't live with myself if I didn't say something (Luke 19: 40).

                        Yeah, I called you all gutless cowards. Why? Because I know not one of you would dare say a word of this garbage to my face.

                        Which would be a wise choice for you. Cowardly, but wise.

                        Somebody please shoot me when I start taking orders from some little runt cab driver, please.

                         I couldn't live with myself if I didn't say something (Luke 19: 40).

                         

                        So you are telling me what I can write. See, I knew you couldn't back up what you wrote earlier.

                        Deep down I knew I was right about you.

                        Flip flopping with what is required by the almighty Ridge.

                        Make up your mind. You're making a fool out of yourself.

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                           I couldn't live with myself if I didn't say something (Luke 19: 40).

                           

                          So you are telling me what I can write. See, I knew you couldn't back up what you wrote earlier.

                          Deep down I knew I was right about you.

                          Flip flopping with what is required by the almighty Ridge.

                          Make up your mind. You're making a fool out of yourself.

                          "So you are telling me what I can write."

                           

                          Case in point: You still don't get it, do you?

                          Unbelievable.

                           

                          I have to go out, so talk to yourself, drink another box of wine, whatever.

                          Toodles!


                                                                       
                                               
                                                                   

                           

                           

                           

                           

                                                                                                                             

                          "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

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                            I am chief among sinners, joker.

                            You know how we are to turn the other cheek and that is why you attack us because you don't want anybody who fights back. But I fight back, too bad for you.

                            That's why you aren't constantly ridiculing and attacking muslims because they will chop your head off for simply disagreeing with them. Yes, your people.

                            All part and parcel of why you are a gutless coward.

                            Good, now you can go to church on Sunday and tell the guy in the booth what an idiot you were on Wednesday. Then once he clears you, you can come back on Monday and start your crap all over again because you know that on Sunday you can go and clean it all up.

                            What a deal !

                            Now you know why I laugh at the rediculous rules certain Christian factions have.  It's so convenient for you. Just sin like there's no tomorrow, but not to worry, Sunday is just around the corner.

                            Silly Christians and their multitude of different rules matching individual agendas.

                            I'll tell you what, when all the different versions of Christianity band together and agree on the same rules, then I may take you seriously. Until then, it's a failed attempt to convince me how great it is. Especially If you claim to be a representative. That makes it even more unbelievable.

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                              "So you are telling me what I can write."

                               

                              Case in point: You still don't get it, do you?

                              Unbelievable.

                               

                              I have to go out, so talk to yourself, drink another box of wine, whatever.

                              Toodles!

                              Oh I get it alright. As long as I write things that isn't approved by you about what I believe about God, I don't have to worry about remarks from you about me being a wife beater cab driver from Iran who's a little runt, a liberal, and lives in a cave.

                              I got it.

                                 
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