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Posted: June 22, 2011, 8:21 pm - IP Logged

The video has been uploaded by many and to many forums.  Its title is Sam Harris Explains Atheism/Reality.  Too bad your bandwidth is so limiting up there.  BTW, where do you run into these effeminate men that seem to be so unsettling to you - on the hill, or in the holler' ?

Time Out !!!

This might be a good time to take a few minutes to listen to someone else discuss these issues in a calm, cool manner...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5DSeHqp_zc

(Sorry rdgrnr, I'm sure you would find it interesting.)

 

Great point. i wonder why I didn't think of this.

How did ridge determine Sam Harris as having a feminine trait, if he can't watch videos?

hmmmmm....something is fishy in Tennessee.....lol

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    Posted: June 22, 2011, 8:21 pm - IP Logged

    The video has been uploaded by many and to many forums.  Its title is Sam Harris Explains Atheism/Reality.  Too bad your bandwidth is so limiting up there.  BTW, where do you run into these effeminate men that seem to be so unsettling to you - on the hill, or in the holler' ?

    Time Out !!!

    This might be a good time to take a few minutes to listen to someone else discuss these issues in a calm, cool manner...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5DSeHqp_zc

    (Sorry rdgrnr, I'm sure you would find it interesting.)

     

    Sorry Nancy, no offense, but you sound like a woman the way you write.

    You know, all that touchy-feely crap.

    Creepy.


                                                 
                         
                                             

     

     

     

     

                                                                                                       

    "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

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      rdgrnr's avatar - walt
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      Posted: June 22, 2011, 8:24 pm - IP Logged

      Great point. i wonder why I didn't think of this.

      How did ridge determine Sam Harris as having a feminine trait, if he can't watch videos?

      hmmmmm....something is fishy in Tennessee.....lol

      I didn't know he did but thanks for letting me know.

      I was referring to Nancy.


                                                   
                           
                                               

       

       

       

       

                                                                                                         

      "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

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        Posted: June 22, 2011, 8:27 pm - IP Logged

        you don't suffer from "lack of information",  you just don't like the information,  and therefore reject it solely on the basis of one component contained within the information

         

        I don't suffer from anything. The information I've gathered points in the direction of NO EVIDENCE PERIOD ! You think you know all there is to know, but based on what you write, I feel you don't have a clue pertaining to subjectivity.

         

         

        you only reject the fact of a personal God because of the authority over your life dilemma.

         

        Wrong again. I would love to have a relationship with an almighty God. Only a fool would reject a bond with the creator. But unfortunately, no evidence exists. Believe it or not, I used to believe in the Christian faith. I really did. But then I realized that all the religions can't be right at the same time, so a red flag went up.

         

         

        it's why you solely attack Christianity,  because Christianty is the only "religion" that has a personal God,  with definitive standards.

         

        Oh c'mon, how many times have i wrote that it's organized religion, and not just Christianity. Get with the program already. Do you really believe I agree with the Muslim losers who blow up innocent people because they think they're gonna meet 72 virgins? You make me laugh sometimes. Don't you get it? It's right under your nose. Just about every religion claims to be the right one and has the most rediculous rules to enter heaven. Some of the rules make sense, like treat your fellow human being with love and all the good stuff. Telling me I won't eneter heaven because I didn't believe in a particular faith is where it becomes stupid. I can't beleive you don't see the contradictions. You just want to go on preaching about the specifics of one religion, when in order to get a feel for reality, one must see the BIG picture, and that's what you lack.

         

         

        Christianity revolves around Christ claiming to be God,  and as God,  he has power and authority over His creation.

         

        Just because you re-write something you've seen doesn't make it a fact. I wrote this, so it must be true. Your legitimacy filter sucks.

        "Telling me I won't eneter heaven because I didn't believe in a particular faith is where it becomes stupid".

         ok,  we will play the game your way,  but play it fast,  your not as "clear" after slugging heinekens.

        so then,   since your personal dirt nap is fast approaching, maybe you can give all of us what the specific criteria is for entering heaven?

        it has to be specific and perfectly equal to every human being for admission.

        it's impossible to have a sliding scale measurement,  because that totally negates a level that's "just good enough".

        sliding scales are subjective and untrustworthy.   no one would be able to tell where the definitive line begins or ends.

        so,  in it's simplest form.....what's "good enough"?

        you rail against the what you think are the "impossibilities" of this pursuit,  so with all your 'research',  you must have come across the exact standards that insure a residentcy in heaven.

        if not,  your personally in a bad bad place,  because your guessing

        remember,  anyone with half a brain about this knows if there is a God,  WE don't create the standards for residentcy.  God does.

        your angst is arrogant enough to think you can.

        well.......what's your "hard evidence"

        you guys wanna bet he has no clue ?

                    "i am .........."meant to"       

        P.S.,  that RJoH  is a stand up guy.  thanks,  vision

                 until further notice,  it's  france everyday


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          Posted: June 22, 2011, 8:29 pm - IP Logged

          I didn't know he did but thanks for letting me know.

          I was referring to Nancy.

          Look, I was born at night, but not last night. I can go back and find where you were referring to the person in the video. I really can.

          And so what If he is, which I disagree. It's the content that counts, not his sexuality. Boy, I swear, you always go around the facts and find supposed flaws in someone that has nothing to do with the subject. That kind of distraction shows me you are purposely avoiding the isuues.

          But guess what, no matter how hard you try, you can't get around my FILTER. I can smell rotten fish a mile away.

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            Posted: June 22, 2011, 8:31 pm - IP Logged

            The video has been uploaded by many and to many forums.  Its title is Sam Harris Explains Atheism/Reality.  Too bad your bandwidth is so limiting up there.  BTW, where do you run into these effeminate men that seem to be so unsettling to you - on the hill, or in the holler' ?

            Time Out !!!

            This might be a good time to take a few minutes to listen to someone else discuss these issues in a calm, cool manner...

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5DSeHqp_zc

            (Sorry rdgrnr, I'm sure you would find it interesting.)

             

            Ah, I see Nancy changed his avatar to female again.

            That reminds me, I need to drop my truck off at the shop so they can do some work on the tranny

            Might get a new CD player too.


                                                         
                                 
                                                     

             

             

             

             

                                                                                                               

            "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

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              Posted: June 22, 2011, 8:32 pm - IP Logged

              "Telling me I won't eneter heaven because I didn't believe in a particular faith is where it becomes stupid".

               ok,  we will play the game your way,  but play it fast,  your not as "clear" after slugging heinekens.

              so then,   since your personal dirt nap is fast approaching, maybe you can give all of us what the specific criteria is for entering heaven?

              it has to be specific and perfectly equal to every human being for admission.

              it's impossible to have a sliding scale measurement,  because that totally negates a level that's "just good enough".

              sliding scales are subjective and untrustworthy.   no one would be able to tell where the definitive line begins or ends.

              so,  in it's simplest form.....what's "good enough"?

              you rail against the what you think are the "impossibilities" of this pursuit,  so with all your 'research',  you must have come across the exact standards that insure a residentcy in heaven.

              if not,  your personally in a bad bad place,  because your guessing

              remember,  anyone with half a brain about this knows if there is a God,  WE don't create the standards for residentcy.  God does.

              your angst is arrogant enough to think you can.

              well.......what's your "hard evidence"

              you guys wanna bet he has no clue ?

              You just don't get it. I don't believe in hell and heaven and everything in between.

              I was simply making a point about the discrepencies between the claims of many many religions claiming to know the correct way to enter heaven.

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                I think I get your point finally.

                You say we shouldn't believe the "ignorant old men" who wrote the Bible.

                But we should believe some little Iranian cab driver. LOL

                Have I got that right?


                                                             
                                     
                                                         

                 

                 

                 

                 

                                                                                                                   

                "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

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                  I think I get your point finally.

                  You say we shouldn't believe the "ignorant old men" who wrote the Bible.

                  But we should believe some little Iranian cab driver. LOL

                  Have I got that right?

                  Based on this, your last post, you REALLY need to watch this video.  Write down the URL and the next time you're in a library, watch it.  You'd better watch out for those male librarians though.

                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5DSeHqp_zc

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                    Based on this, your last post, you REALLY need to watch this video.  Write down the URL and the next time you're in a library, watch it.  You'd better watch out for those male librarians though.

                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5DSeHqp_zc

                    "...watch out for those male librarians..."

                    Sounds like the voice of experience talking.

                     

                    I'll take a pass on your video though.

                    Thanks anyway.


                                                                 
                                         
                                                             

                     

                     

                     

                     

                                                                                                                       

                    "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

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                      You just don't get it. I don't believe in hell and heaven and everything in between.

                      I was simply making a point about the discrepencies between the claims of many many religions claiming to know the correct way to enter heaven.

                      i more than get it.

                      you rail against something you admittedly don't have any idea about,  and yet you attack those who feel they do.

                      none of that makes sense.

                      if you pounded 12 heinekens in a row tonight,  got up off the couch,  stumbled and was skewered by your headstock,  you have zero clue as to where the line is,  and if you have crossed it into "good enough land".

                      just because you don't want to know,  doesn't mean there aren't people who do know,  or who at least pretend they do.

                      and "those people" you need to leave well enough alone.

                       

                      what i demonstrated again about you tonight,  is that as much trash as you talk about other peoples "beliefs",  when it comes time for your pontification,  you are deaftly silent.

                      i gave you a huge stage to pontificate the "just enough" speech. 

                      , decorated the halls with balloons,  and sent out world wide invitations,  and you couldn't offer squat on "what's enough".

                      until you can describe at least that at minimum,  shut your sound hole (a guitar reference),  and let others to thier beliefs

                                  "i am .........."meant to"       

                      P.S.,  that RJoH  is a stand up guy.  thanks,  vision

                               until further notice,  it's  france everyday


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                        I think I get your point finally.

                        You say we shouldn't believe the "ignorant old men" who wrote the Bible.

                        But we should believe some little Iranian cab driver. LOL

                        Have I got that right?

                        This cab driver has done his homework. You don't have to believe me, just realize there are different viewpoints. In my world, the pieces fit. I see the BIG picture. Take off those bliners and your peripheral vision will allow you to see a panorama.


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                          i more than get it.

                          you rail against something you admittedly don't have any idea about,  and yet you attack those who feel they do.

                          none of that makes sense.

                          if you pounded 12 heinekens in a row tonight,  got up off the couch,  stumbled and was skewered by your headstock,  you have zero clue as to where the line is,  and if you have crossed it into "good enough land".

                          just because you don't want to know,  doesn't mean there aren't people who do know,  or who at least pretend they do.

                          and "those people" you need to leave well enough alone.

                           

                          what i demonstrated again about you tonight,  is that as much trash as you talk about other peoples "beliefs",  when it comes time for your pontification,  you are deaftly silent.

                          i gave you a huge stage to pontificate the "just enough" speech. 

                          , decorated the halls with balloons,  and sent out world wide invitations,  and you couldn't offer squat on "what's enough".

                          until you can describe at least that at minimum,  shut your sound hole (a guitar reference),  and let others to thier beliefs

                          I already answered your question. You asked me what was enough to enter heaven, and I said I don't believe in hell and heaven. What part don't you get?

                          You pretend to know. That's not my fault. Anyone can claim they know for sure. I claim I don't know for sure. What's so bad about that?  It shows I don't believe everything I hear or see. I do an investigation and look for anomolies. If it don't jive, I discount it. I have to draw the line somewhere.

                          Just because you claim you have a monopoly on truth doesn't make it so.

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                            This cab driver has done his homework. You don't have to believe me, just realize there are different viewpoints. In my world, the pieces fit. I see the BIG picture. Take off those bliners and your peripheral vision will allow you to see a panorama.

                            Done your homework?

                            What, you read some books?

                            And you believe them?

                            Where's the proof?

                            What about the carbon dating?

                            What about the galaxies and the light years?

                             

                             

                            I think your head is lined up with Uranus.


                                                                         
                                                 
                                                                     

                             

                             

                             

                             

                                                                                                                               

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                              Done your homework?

                              What, you read some books?

                              And you believe them?

                              Where's the proof?

                              What about the carbon dating?

                              What about the galaxies and the light years?

                               

                               

                              I think your head is lined up with Uranus.

                              You've yet to answer such fundamental questions.

                              So convenient. You believe science when it benefits you, but when God is involved, science is just hokey pokey?

                              I get it....

                                 
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