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Atheist converts after mock prayer to win $1M lottery is answered

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rdgrnr's avatar - walt
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You've yet to answer such fundamental questions.

So convenient. You believe science when it benefits you, but when God is involved, science is just hokey pokey?

I get it....

You should write one of those books too.

Get Nancy to back you up.

Become an author.

I'm sure Nancy will be right behind you all the way, thrusting your career forward.


                                             
                     
                                         

 

 

 

 

                                                                                                   

"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

                                                                                            --Edmund Burke

 

 


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    Unknowingly, the person who always puts science down, doesn't realize that there's someone out there who's done their homework. I've heard this so many times it's funny.

    They love their cars, TV's, blenders, space shuttle programs, GPS's, life saving cures, but when it intercedes with a scientific approach regarding the same scrutiny of a passing grade with God's existence, all of a sudden scientists are flakes.

    How convenient.

    How do we know that light travels at 186,000 miles per second....oh those crazy scientists.....PROVE IT TO ME.....They must have an agenda.....

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      You just don't get it. I don't believe in hell and heaven and everything in between.

      I was simply making a point about the discrepencies between the claims of many many religions claiming to know the correct way to enter heaven.

      "You just don't get it. I don't believe in hell and heaven and everything in between".

       i get that too,  because if you went that far,  then the "authority" aspect kicks in.

      either way,  it's rediculous to think that God created us for just this life,  and then let the power of His creative end result slip thru His fingers,  only to allow the world to reduce itself to disarray and ultimate chaos.

      poor God,  His God-like skills aren't very good.  whoops,  i am not very good at controlling what i made.  my B

      if this life is all there is,  at some point God during the disgust of it all, God would wipe the slate clean,  and start over.    a "do-over",  until He got it right

      he did a small scale geoGRAPHICal "do over" once before,  but just enough to keep his creation project up and running

      if this life was all there is,  He would not have allowed His creation to act this wacked while handling it,  and sit and watch as humanity eventually totally obliterated itself,  and rob Him of His accomplishment

      that would mean He is completely impersonal and disenfranchised,  and that isn't true.

      there is an afterlife allright, it is the culmination of Gods original intent for creating us in the first place - for an unhindered relationship.

      he has to have some sort of divided destination in order to accomplish that,  because let's face it,  there are a TON of people that hate Him,  and "they" won't be in His eternal prescence.

      it doesn't matter what you believe now,  as much as what you believed prior to your beer and guitar taking your life

      you won't be able to escape "hard evidence" then,  whatever that amounts to

      even you know there is something beyond deadasadoornailfuneralhome.org

                  "i am .........."meant to"       

      P.S.,  that RJoH  is a stand up guy.  thanks,  vision

               until further notice,  it's  france everyday

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        You win joker.

        I give up.

        I now believe you guys when you say your ancestors were monkeys.

        There's no longer any doubt in my mind.

        My condolences.


                                                     
                             
                                                 

         

         

         

         

                                                                                                           

        "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

                                                                                                    --Edmund Burke

         

         

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          (1)  you forgot to mention lottery post.    not cool

          (2) aren't you supposed to be slugging heinekens right now ?

          (3) 186,000 miles,  185,783miles, 187,777 miles a second ....who cares? 

          God created the light instantaneously,  and gave stephen "i don't need god" hawking the breath of life

                      "i am .........."meant to"       

          P.S.,  that RJoH  is a stand up guy.  thanks,  vision

                   until further notice,  it's  france everyday


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            "You just don't get it. I don't believe in hell and heaven and everything in between".

             i get that too,  because if you went that far,  then the "authority" aspect kicks in.

            either way,  it's rediculous to think that God created us for just this life,  and then let the power of His creative end result slip thru His fingers,  only to allow the world to reduce itself to disarray and ultimate chaos.

            poor God,  His God-like skills aren't very good.  whoops,  i am not very good at controlling what i made.  my B

            if this life is all there is,  at some point God during the disgust of it all, God would wipe the slate clean,  and start over.    a "do-over",  until He got it right

            he did a small scale geoGRAPHICal "do over" once before,  but just enough to keep his creation project up and running

            if this life was all there is,  He would not have allowed His creation to act this wacked while handling it,  and sit and watch as humanity eventually totally obliterated itself,  and rob Him of His accomplishment

            that would mean He is completely impersonal and disenfranchised,  and that isn't true.

            there is an afterlife allright, it is the culmination of Gods original intent for creating us in the first place - for an unhindered relationship.

            he has to have some sort of divided destination in order to accomplish that,  because let's face it,  there are a TON of people that hate Him,  and "they" won't be in His eternal prescence.

            it doesn't matter what you believe now,  as much as what you believed prior to your beer and guitar taking your life

            you won't be able to escape "hard evidence" then,  whatever that amounts to

            even you know there is something beyond deadasadoornailfuneralhome.org

            I read everythng you write, and you're always writing as if you know for sure. Example......"He does this and thinks that" "God does this and that"...."His intenition is this and that".

            You only think you have a pipeline to God, but it's just a delusion.

            You can't answer a simple question, but you want me to take you seriously.


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              Posted: June 22, 2011, 9:17 pm - IP Logged

              (1)  you forgot to mention lottery post.    not cool

              (2) aren't you supposed to be slugging heinekens right now ?

              (3) 186,000 miles,  185,783miles, 187,777 miles a second ....who cares? 

              God created the light instantaneously,  and gave stephen "i don't need god" hawking the breath of life

              God changed the law of physics temporarily to create the universe, but made it look like it took billions of years?

              Yeah, God likes to create confusion.

              It's not like humans are confused enough, let's confuse them even more..

              That makes sense....you're right Vision....

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                If you like Heineken you could save yourself some money by just buying Budweiser and letting it sit in the sun for a couple years till it goes skunky.

                Tastes exactly like Heineken. Puke


                                                             
                                     
                                                         

                 

                 

                 

                 

                                                                                                                   

                "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

                                                                                                            --Edmund Burke

                 

                 


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                  You win joker.

                  I give up.

                  I now believe you guys when you say your ancestors were monkeys.

                  There's no longer any doubt in my mind.

                  My condolences.

                  I just called my monkey's uncle and he agreed with me.

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                    I just called my monkey's uncle and he agreed with me.

                    See, I knew you were.

                    How about a banana?


                                                                 
                                         
                                                             

                     

                     

                     

                     

                                                                                                                       

                    "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

                                                                                                                --Edmund Burke

                     

                     


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                      If you like Heineken you could save yourself some money by just buying Budweiser and letting it sit in the sun for a couple years till it goes skunky.

                      Tastes exactly like Heineken. Puke

                      Oh no you didn't....

                      I used to hate Heineken years ago because of the bold after taste, but then I realized that you get what you pay for. There's no hangover in the morning, well, maybe a little haze, but nothing like drinking Budcrapper.

                      I can't believe I drank that bud stuff for years. I must've been nuts.

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                        Oh no you didn't....

                        I used to hate Heineken years ago because of the bold after taste, but then I realized that you get what you pay for. There's no hangover in the morning, well, maybe a little haze, but nothing like drinking Budcrapper.

                        I can't believe I drank that bud stuff for years. I must've been nuts.

                        Yeah, it's true.

                        Let some Bud go a month or two past it's expiration date and it tastes exactly like Heineken.

                        Even has that same puke smell that Heineken has.


                                                                     
                                             
                                                                 

                         

                         

                         

                         

                                                                                                                           

                        "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

                                                                                                                    --Edmund Burke

                         

                         


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                          Yeah, it's true.

                          Let some Bud go a month or two past it's expiration date and it tastes exactly like Heineken.

                          Even has that same puke smell that Heineken has.

                          Ok...

                          That's the most expensive puke I've ever bought.

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                            of course i know for sure.

                            on exactly every little tiny nuance in life,  heck no,  no one does.

                            but on issues where God has made Himself plain,  who He is and what He demands of His creation, you bet i know.

                            you keep coming from the angle that no one knows,  therefore no one could possibly speak with any authority on the subject matter.

                            remember,  for you to hold to that position, no one in the billions of people born "ever knew".

                            and yet you make the most hypocritical statement when you say you believe there "could be" a God.

                            you either don't even know what you believe about that,  or you do,  and it is your acting job of selling yourself in here as a "seeker"

                            seekers give a full wide path to the possibility,  and when you make the asertion that no one could possibly know, you give a window into your true motivation.

                            it isn't arrogant for someone to say they do know on things that are definitive,  it's when they attempt to sell the notion they know EVERYTHING.

                            i never have. 

                            while i do know alot,  and i am cemented in the assertion of what i do know,  still i am no different than anyone else who is still learning about God,  and what He desires.

                            but i want to know,  and i have zero problem with the authority attachment to knowing,  and that's why and how i can know.

                            when someone like you fights the initial authority aspect,   you will never know,  until you get over that.

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                            "You can't answer a simple question, but you want me to take you seriously".

                             i never answer you,  to answer you.....i use you to "teach".

                            i answer you only to handle my business vs what i claim.   i don't pretend to think what i say to you sways you past your angst.    your fully entrenched in that.

                            "i answer you" , because my integrity demands it of me,  and that has zero to do with you

                            it's painfully obvious you don't deserve credibility "seriousness" when you just lied again.

                            i answered your question,  but again it's your waek defense,  because now i have you in another corner where you couldn't handle the "what's the definitive line" arguement.

                            our exchanges are archived ,  and your the one that continually skates when challenged with something.

                            you lied again.     i guess you HAVE started drinking

                                        "i am .........."meant to"       

                            P.S.,  that RJoH  is a stand up guy.  thanks,  vision

                                     until further notice,  it's  france everyday


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                              Look who's talking. You drink JD...Puke

                              I bought a bottle about 2 or 3 months ago and I almost dieded from shock...lol

                              That stuff is poison.

                                 
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