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Debating religion is like debating politics.

I will continue on forever.

not "forever"

inevitably speaking,  at some point it will end,  and individually speaking,  it most assuredly will end Wink

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    It makes sense to me really, that someone whose judgement is so bad that he would drink Heineken and think it's good beer, would believe that his Great Great Great Great Great Great Papaw was a monkey. And sadly, exclusively in his own case, I think he may be right.

    I actually believe that aliens grafted their DNA with apes a long time a go, and that's how humans came to be.

    It's not coincidence that we share 98% of genes with chimps.

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      What I wonder is why you keep reading it if it bothers you so much that you want it locked down.   Crazy

      i was reading from the last post backwards,  and i was just about to say the same thing.

      people "whine" about content, longevity,  whatever, but read every last post in the thread.

      redic

      if it's so "offensive" on whatever level,  why do they read all of it then ?

      truth is,  unless there is "God" mentioned in the thread,  not one of these people ever complain in the same fashion in any other thread,  no matter how long it goes on,  no matter how off topic it goes.

      they never say a word

      in here,  they abhor the content,  so they take a swipe at it,  while reading every bit of it.

      that makes total sense

      (laughing)

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        I actually believe that aliens grafted their DNA with apes a long time a go, and that's how humans came to be.

        It's not coincidence that we share 98% of genes with chimps.

        i would ask you for "hard evidence" on that one,  but knowing how your mind works,  and your proclivity for posting out of this world vid's,  you would go find a photoshopped vid of an alien humping a monkey,  and call that "proof"

        look,  you can't drink enough heinekens to convince the guard at area 51 to do a DNA test on their rubber alien,  so you have no way of fleshing out your out of this world (literally) hypothesis.

        plenty of zoo's across america to cull a good specimen of a monkey for DNA though,  but your missing a link

         

        so,  you demand "proof" all the time.

        no comment on the i gotcha moment i provided with "science" moving from millions to billions?

        you whined and complained (and lied) to the board i wouldn't answer your question,  and now that i kicked a hundred year old dirt over it,  all of a sudden you have nothing to say?

        this is what i mean,  you just spray. 

        i have to go to work,  so make sure you handle stuff you start,  and finish off my truth about guessing "science"

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        P.S.,  that RJoH  is a stand up guy.  thanks,  vision

                 until further notice,  it's  france everyday

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          I actually believe that aliens grafted their DNA with apes a long time a go, and that's how humans came to be.

          It's not coincidence that we share 98% of genes with chimps.

          "It's not coincidence that we share 98% of genes with chimps".

           like i said,  God did it on purpose.

          His little "curveball" to fat headed mankind

          genious

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            i would ask you for "hard evidence" on that one,  but knowing how your mind works,  and your proclivity for posting out of this world vid's,  you would go find a photoshopped vid of an alien humping a monkey,  and call that "proof"

            look,  you can't drink enough heinekens to convince the guard at area 51 to do a DNA test on their rubber alien,  so you have no way of fleshing out your out of this world (literally) hypothesis.

            plenty of zoo's across america to cull a good specimen of a monkey for DNA though,  but your missing a link

             

            so,  you demand "proof" all the time.

            no comment on the i gotcha moment i provided with "science" moving from millions to billions?

            you whined and complained (and lied) to the board i wouldn't answer your question,  and now that i kicked a hundred year old dirt over it,  all of a sudden you have nothing to say?

            this is what i mean,  you just spray. 

            i have to go to work,  so make sure you handle stuff you start,  and finish off my truth about guessing "science"

            All I can say is that you're cluless about science. I'm not gonna repeat everything I write. Re-read it and it may soak in, but I highly doubt it.


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              "It's not coincidence that we share 98% of genes with chimps".

               like i said,  God did it on purpose.

              His little "curveball" to fat headed mankind

              genious

              Of course God did it. How do I know this?...because Vision said so. So it must be true....Lunatics are everywhere...


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                Humans being an alien hybrid is just my opinion. Not everything I write on LP is a fact. But when I specifically write fact, then you know. But I do have opinions about certain things based on info I've learned, which you won't accept anyways, so why bother?

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                  Does anyone think , maybe this person was not really an "atheist", to begin with????

                  Or he made up the story after his Mother won $1 million.


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                    science is a dizzying sport,  and cannot be trusted for your personal zip code in eternity.

                    science changes more then the depends dispenser at an old folks home.

                    now THAT'S a fact.

                    science is an ever evolving guess,  and nothing more

                    what "time" it takes to measure something isn't equal to it's ability to create itself,   your just stuck at how fast it travels

                    God said He created the light instantaneously,  and "physics" was non existent before that magic show anyway. 

                    you act like God is stephan hawking,  and vice versa.

                    stephan hawking can't even walk,  let alone speak the world into existence.

                    it's a rediculous notion that God has only "limited capabilities" based solely around what the human mind can grasp.

                    that's intellectual / spiritual suicide.

                    if there is a God,  creating light,  and assigning it a speed limit of 186,000 miles a second is childs play to Him

                    he made you,  even with your mouth running 186,001 miles a second,  didn't He ?

                    "billions of years" is hogwash.    science that favors ditching God manufactured that lie. 

                    go ahead,  trust the anti God scienterrific community for the "facts" when explaining things involving eternity,  and see how far you get. 

                    you won't get "God",  and didn't you just tell the board that's who you are looking for?

                    you keep saying one thing,  and spitting out reasons not to.

                    there is far more going on than a stint in rehab near area 51  to your conscience around.

                    there are "geologists" in eternity

                    science is a dizzying sport,

                     

                    To you it must be because it requires critical thinking, which you lack greatly.

                     

                     

                    science changes more then the depends dispenser at an old folks home.

                     

                    This proves what I wrote earlier. The fact you don't know squat about what science is. If you had a clue you'd realize that the whole purpose of science is to upgrade with new knowledge found. It's designed to improve when more FACTS are learned about whatever subject is at hand. The word "science' means 'The study of", so it's always breaking new ground. 

                    Everytime you write stuff here you make yourself dumber and dumber. Stop it before you make it worse than it is.

                     

                     

                    science is an ever evolving guess,  and nothing more

                    Oh really, so I guess every technoloical improvement that affects your daily life is just by pure luck and lucky guesses? You are so full of crap it literraly stinks in here. Only a moron would say something like that.

                    Your television, washing machine, stove, electric razor, computer, dishwasher, shuttle launch, and every other contraption in your house or car was derived from science.

                    I guess it's only a guess that light travels 186,000 miles per second? Even though it's been proven in a lab, and they've also been able to slow down light to 24 miles per hour. I guess it's only a lucky geuss that we know for a FACT that it takes 8 and half minutes for light to reach the earth from the sun?

                    I guess it's only a lucky guess that Jarvick produced a mechanical heart so people can live longer?

                    I'm just curious what you'd say If God forbid something bad would happen to you and your lying in the emergency room while a doctor uses an intrument designed by scientists to have life saving surgery done on you.

                    Like I said before, religious brainwashed humans will accept science when it benefits them, but will discount it conveniently for them when it doesn't meet their agenda platform. What a load of crap Vision. Get with the program.

                     

                     

                     

                    God said He created the light instantaneously, and "physics" was non existent before that magic show anyway.

                     

                     

                    Yup...that's right. because it was written in a book by different authors thousands of years ago, it must be true. Bunch of old fools who didn't have a clue about their world making things up to control the masses.

                    Like i said earlier, you have ABSOLUTELY no critical thinking capabilities whatsoever. You rely everything realted to the universe on a book despite hundreds of thousands of individual evidence parts showing it to be wrong.

                    You don't give two hoots about evidence because even when it's presented, you use convoluted logic to explain it away. That's what happens to be people who are brainwashed like you are. They're so entrenched in their belief system even though there's not one shred of proof, that they discount everything else. It'll shatter their precious little comfort zone. Too bad so many people in this earth still need a teddy bear or a safety blanket to hold on to. What a shame. A bunch of backward mentality humans still believe in old wives tales. SHAME SHAME SHAME....!

                     

                     

                     

                    you act like God is stephan hawking,  and vice versa.

                    stephan hawking can't even walk,  let alone speak the world into existence.

                     

                    I see, so this is how you judge a person. tells a lot about a lame human like you. So because he used to be able to walk when he was younger and then aquired a disease, makes him not worthy of his brain power? You are such a fool.

                    Hawking has more intelligence and cpacity than you and I will ever dream of. And If I compared him to you, which you shouldn't be allowed the privilege of saying his name, he has more brain power in his snot than you have in your entire brain, which is dysfunctional at best. What nerve, picking on a guy because of a disease he has no control over. You ar a sick and twisted individual.

                     

                     

                     

                    it's a rediculous notion that God has only "limited capabilities" based solely around what the human mind can grasp.

                     

                    More unfounded claims that you can't backup. God did this and God did that, as If you know for sure. DELUSIONAL....

                     

                    Maybe you should read some books other than the Bible. It's rotting your brain very quickly.

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                      science is a dizzying sport,

                       

                      To you it must be because it requires critical thinking, which you lack greatly.

                       

                       

                      science changes more then the depends dispenser at an old folks home.

                       

                      This proves what I wrote earlier. The fact you don't know squat about what science is. If you had a clue you'd realize that the whole purpose of science is to upgrade with new knowledge found. It's designed to improve when more FACTS are learned about whatever subject is at hand. The word "science' means 'The study of", so it's always breaking new ground. 

                      Everytime you write stuff here you make yourself dumber and dumber. Stop it before you make it worse than it is.

                       

                       

                      science is an ever evolving guess,  and nothing more

                      Oh really, so I guess every technoloical improvement that affects your daily life is just by pure luck and lucky guesses? You are so full of crap it literraly stinks in here. Only a moron would say something like that.

                      Your television, washing machine, stove, electric razor, computer, dishwasher, shuttle launch, and every other contraption in your house or car was derived from science.

                      I guess it's only a guess that light travels 186,000 miles per second? Even though it's been proven in a lab, and they've also been able to slow down light to 24 miles per hour. I guess it's only a lucky geuss that we know for a FACT that it takes 8 and half minutes for light to reach the earth from the sun?

                      I guess it's only a lucky guess that Jarvick produced a mechanical heart so people can live longer?

                      I'm just curious what you'd say If God forbid something bad would happen to you and your lying in the emergency room while a doctor uses an intrument designed by scientists to have life saving surgery done on you.

                      Like I said before, religious brainwashed humans will accept science when it benefits them, but will discount it conveniently for them when it doesn't meet their agenda platform. What a load of crap Vision. Get with the program.

                       

                       

                       

                      God said He created the light instantaneously, and "physics" was non existent before that magic show anyway.

                       

                       

                      Yup...that's right. because it was written in a book by different authors thousands of years ago, it must be true. Bunch of old fools who didn't have a clue about their world making things up to control the masses.

                      Like i said earlier, you have ABSOLUTELY no critical thinking capabilities whatsoever. You rely everything realted to the universe on a book despite hundreds of thousands of individual evidence parts showing it to be wrong.

                      You don't give two hoots about evidence because even when it's presented, you use convoluted logic to explain it away. That's what happens to be people who are brainwashed like you are. They're so entrenched in their belief system even though there's not one shred of proof, that they discount everything else. It'll shatter their precious little comfort zone. Too bad so many people in this earth still need a teddy bear or a safety blanket to hold on to. What a shame. A bunch of backward mentality humans still believe in old wives tales. SHAME SHAME SHAME....!

                       

                       

                       

                      you act like God is stephan hawking,  and vice versa.

                      stephan hawking can't even walk,  let alone speak the world into existence.

                       

                      I see, so this is how you judge a person. tells a lot about a lame human like you. So because he used to be able to walk when he was younger and then aquired a disease, makes him not worthy of his brain power? You are such a fool.

                      Hawking has more intelligence and cpacity than you and I will ever dream of. And If I compared him to you, which you shouldn't be allowed the privilege of saying his name, he has more brain power in his snot than you have in your entire brain, which is dysfunctional at best. What nerve, picking on a guy because of a disease he has no control over. You ar a sick and twisted individual.

                       

                       

                       

                      it's a rediculous notion that God has only "limited capabilities" based solely around what the human mind can grasp.

                       

                      More unfounded claims that you can't backup. God did this and God did that, as If you know for sure. DELUSIONAL....

                       

                      Maybe you should read some books other than the Bible. It's rotting your brain very quickly.

                      "I guess it's only a guess that light travels 186,000 miles per second?  "

                      When the Hubble telescope made it's "Deep Field" look into a speck-sized spot in the sky, it's a magnification of 1500 galaxies that are there right now. The people writing Genesis had no idea of what was beyond the stars they saw in the night sky and there still are people today that can't comprehend it was from the perception of people living thousands of years before the telescope was even thought of.

                      Distance to them was how many days it took to walk or ride a donkey cart to the nearest town.

                      Today scientist and astronomers can estimate distances in space by using the speed of light and because they know how long it takes light to travel from point A to point B, they know the light they are seeing was generated in the past. To get a better idea of the distance in space, Voyager I was launched on September 5, 1977 and after 33 years and 9 months is just now leaving our Solar System and entering Interstellar space. The speed of the craft is 38,160 MPH and at that speed it will take 14,000 years to travel one light year and over 76,000 years to reach our closest neighboring star. Voyager is now approximately 10,788,000,000 miles from Earth 

                      "Like I said before, religious brainwashed humans will accept science when it benefits them, but will discount it conveniently for them when it doesn't meet their agenda platform."

                      Not all Christians believe the Earth and Universe were created just 8000 years ago and they don't waste their time debating those who do believe it.


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                        "I guess it's only a guess that light travels 186,000 miles per second?  "

                        When the Hubble telescope made it's "Deep Field" look into a speck-sized spot in the sky, it's a magnification of 1500 galaxies that are there right now. The people writing Genesis had no idea of what was beyond the stars they saw in the night sky and there still are people today that can't comprehend it was from the perception of people living thousands of years before the telescope was even thought of.

                        Distance to them was how many days it took to walk or ride a donkey cart to the nearest town.

                        Today scientist and astronomers can estimate distances in space by using the speed of light and because they know how long it takes light to travel from point A to point B, they know the light they are seeing was generated in the past. To get a better idea of the distance in space, Voyager I was launched on September 5, 1977 and after 33 years and 9 months is just now leaving our Solar System and entering Interstellar space. The speed of the craft is 38,160 MPH and at that speed it will take 14,000 years to travel one light year and over 76,000 years to reach our closest neighboring star. Voyager is now approximately 10,788,000,000 miles from Earth 

                        "Like I said before, religious brainwashed humans will accept science when it benefits them, but will discount it conveniently for them when it doesn't meet their agenda platform."

                        Not all Christians believe the Earth and Universe were created just 8000 years ago and they don't waste their time debating those who do believe it.

                        I guess it's only a guess that light travels 186,000 miles per second? "

                        When the Hubble telescope made it's "Deep Field" look into a speck-sized spot in the sky, it's a magnification of 1500 galaxies that are there right now. The people writing Genesis had no idea of what was beyond the stars they saw in the night sky and there still are people today that can't comprehend it was from the perception of people living thousands of years before the telescope was even thought of.

                        Distance to them was how many days it took to walk or ride a donkey cart to the nearest town.

                        Today scientist and astronomers can estimate distances in space by using the speed of light and because they know how long it takes light to travel from point A to point B, they know the light they are seeing was generated in the past. To get a better idea of the distance in space, Voyager I was launched on September 5, 1977 and after 33 years and 9 months is just now leaving our Solar System and entering Interstellar space. The speed of the craft is 38,160 MPH and at that speed it will take 14,000 years to travel one light year and over 76,000 years to reach our closest neighboring star. Voyager is now approximately 10,788,000,000 miles from Earth

                         

                         

                         

                        Thanx for the info, but I already know this. Hopefully Vision will put his glasses on and read this. But of course he'll just say that the scientists are making all that up.


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                          It makes sense to me really, that someone whose judgement is so bad that he would drink Heineken and think it's good beer, would believe that his Great Great Great Great Great Great Papaw was a monkey. And sadly, exclusively in his own case, I think he may be right.

                          I really hoped that someone else would correct your repeated error but when you said, "...someone...would believe that his Great Great Great Great Great Great Papaw was a monkey," I couldn't wait any longer.

                          "Monkeys" are contemporary to humans, living right alongside of us.  They are NOT our ancestors!  What [maybe not you but] we know from the evidence of evolution is that humans and monkeys have a

                          COMMON ANCESTOR.

                          Got it?

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                            folks read a few paragraphs

                            The Journey of Man:
                            A Genetic Odyssey
                            Spencer Wells

                            Big John says. You don't hit the number. The number hits you!!!!

                                           I'm not Big John, I'm Four4me, Big John's a friend.
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                              does anyone else think it's funny that stack complained about this thread and now he's commenting in it ?

                              like I don't mind, don't talk trash, and try and shut something down,  and then your hypocritical about it,  and  you add your .03 to it when it suits you.

                              he isn't the only one that plays these integrity slippages in these threads

                              Only when it suits them....

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