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rdgrnr's avatar - walt
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Disagreeing with another belief doesn't constitute wiping the people off the face of the Earth in my book. Those are your words, not mine.

My words? Read the news much?

Your leader, Ahmadinejad, said those exact words about Israel.

He said they need to be wiped off the face of the earth.

That's your guy.


                                             
                     
                                         

 

 

 

 

                                                                                                   

"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

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    For your information Ridge, I reply to all threads on this site, some i agree, some i don't. I don't ONLY jump into religious threads to annoy Christians. I was hoping I didn't have to explain such a trivial point, but i guess i have to.

    Unlike you, I'm not biased. Religion doesn't get a free ride. Everything to me is subject to scrutiny.


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      My words? Read the news much?

      Your leader, Ahmadinejad, said those exact words about Israel.

      He said they need to be wiped off the face of the earth.

      That's your guy.

      He's not my leader. Get that thru your thick head.

      Now you're starting to sound like an idiot.....Hit With Stick

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        Define...'Leave them alone"..

        Since when were you appointed to filter what somone replies with on a thread? Do I have to now ask you permission on what i can say and can't say?

        American men have a long standing tradition of protecting women.

        You wouldn't understand.

        And we know that if we don't defend our rights (like freedom of religion) we'll lose them to know-it-alls like you.


                                                     
                             
                                                 

         

         

         

         

                                                                                                           

        "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

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          He's not my leader. Get that thru your thick head.

          Now you're starting to sound like an idiot.....Hit With Stick

          What are you getting indignant about?

          You said they were my words.

          I just told you whose words they were.

          And that's the truth.

          It was the President of the place you were born.

          He got a standing ovation when he said it, by the way, in front of a crowd of your people.

          Funny how you haven't said you disagree with what he said.


                                                       
                               
                                                   

           

           

           

           

                                                                                                             

          "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

                                                                                                      --Edmund Burke

           

           


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            What are you getting indignant about?

            You said they were my words.

            I just told you whose words they were.

            And that's the truth.

            It was the President of the place you were born.

            He got a standing ovation when he said it, by the way, in front of a crowd of your people.

            Funny how you haven't said you disagree with what he said.

            I haven't disagreed with what the President of iran said?....

            Now I know for a fact you don't have a flying clue where I'm coming from.

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              I haven't disagreed with what the President of iran said?....

              Now I know for a fact you don't have a flying clue where I'm coming from.

              So you'll stand with me and the Israelis against him?


                                                           
                                   
                                                       

               

               

               

               

                                                                                                                 

              "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

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                American men have a long standing tradition of protecting women.

                You wouldn't understand.

                And we know that if we don't defend our rights (like freedom of religion) we'll lose them to know-it-alls like you.

                What is with this whole thing about men and their wives? I've never been married. Are you ok man?

                You'll never lose your right to defend your religion, as long as you give others the same opportunity to disagree.

                What part of this don't you understand?.....or are you gonna go on another rant about Husbands and wives?

                What?


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                  So you'll stand with me and the Israelis against him?

                  Well of course I agree. The Iranians are just as crazy to think Israel should be wiped off the map as any other religious group who thinks the same. Again, I'm not biased. Wrong is wrong and it comes in many shapes and sizes, religions, groups, countries, ideals, and so on.


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                    Just because I was born in a country who's moral boundries are dictated by some religious fanatical idealism, does not automatically become written in stone to someone who was born there and left. Get with the program.

                    Here i am spending so much time telling you I'm against radical ideas that are debatable at best, and all you can do is label me without anyhting to back it up. Not to mention the fact that you've systematically avoided just about every point I brought up earlier in this thread.

                    Oh well, I have to go to work tomorrow.

                    Ridge, I wish you the best in your endeavors. Have a good night.

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                      What is with this whole thing about men and their wives? I've never been married. Are you ok man?

                      You'll never lose your right to defend your religion, as long as you give others the same opportunity to disagree.

                      What part of this don't you understand?.....or are you gonna go on another rant about Husbands and wives?

                      What?

                      "What is with this whole thing about men and their wives? "

                      I already told you in the 2nd sentence: "You wouldn't understand".

                      Our culture cherishes, loves, respects, defends and protects women.

                       

                      Your culture beats and abuses women and treats them like slaves and property.

                      It's not your fault. That's what your people do. That's your culture.

                       

                      I never said you couldn't disagree about anything. But why do you have to make the most peripheral mention of prayer or God in a post the focal point of the post and then use it for one of your attacks on Christianity?

                      People pray, people believe in what they want. They don't come here to hear you preach about how stupid they are for their religious beliefs.

                      Who appointed you the religious police? Do you want a stick to beat the women on the street like they do in your home country?

                      Get over it.


                                                                   
                                           
                                                               

                       

                       

                       

                       

                                                                                                                         

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                        "What is with this whole thing about men and their wives? "

                        I already told you in the 2nd sentence: "You wouldn't understand".

                        Our culture cherishes, loves, respects, defends and protects women.

                         

                        Your culture beats and abuses women and treats them like slaves and property.

                        It's not your fault. That's what your people do. That's your culture.

                         

                        I never said you couldn't disagree about anything. But why do you have to make the most peripheral mention of prayer or God in a post the focal point of the post and then use it for one of your attacks on Christianity?

                        People pray, people believe in what they want. They don't come here to hear you preach about how stupid they are for their religious beliefs.

                        Who appointed you the religious police? Do you want a stick to beat the women on the street like they do in your home country?

                        Get over it.

                        But why do you have to make the most peripheral mention of prayer or God in a post the focal point of the post and then use it for one of your attacks on Christianity?

                         

                        Because this is the Lotterypost, and just like i respond to other threads on this site, I have the right to respond to this one as well. You call it "Attacks", I call it a response.

                        You like making me repeat myself over and over don't you?

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                          But why do you have to make the most peripheral mention of prayer or God in a post the focal point of the post and then use it for one of your attacks on Christianity?

                           

                          Because this is the Lotterypost, and just like i respond to other threads on this site, I have the right to respond to this one as well. You call it "Attacks", I call it a response.

                          You like making me repeat myself over and over don't you?

                          You can call it whatever you want.

                          You know what it is and so does everybody else.

                          Your hatred for Christianity is palpable, visceral and seething.

                          Give the rest of the sleeper cell my best.


                                                                       
                                               
                                                                   

                           

                           

                           

                           

                                                                                                                             

                          "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

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                            The beginning. Its just hard for people to understand/overstand. For religous folks and non believers alike. Trying to tame anothers ego may prove to be a difficult task, yet alone trying to tame ones own. If only you could use/go beyond your five basic senses(which you probably can)you would know the truth for yourself. Don't think id waste 'energy' trying to convince or convert a 'non believer' or 'athiest'. If 'GOD' aka 'highest/higher intelligence' aka 'divine consciousness' hasn't revealed itself to certain people, maybe they are just not ready, or maybe they are not meant to have such forces within or around them, it can be powerful on both ends. I don't know, but im pretty sure it probably has, they just wearn't paying attention, or ignored/deny it all together. Its a big universe. You are not forced to believe anything. Every 'religion' has truth and fallacies. It would be far too easy if it were all truth, or all false anyway. You must seek, with intention. 'Religion' was probably to be created for a kind of moral guidline, but of course it quickly became of political gain, and a lot of time is still used as such. But thats not to say that there isn't any truths within them. Im pretty sure that a lot of religious texts have been re-written plenty over the years by, who knows. But id like to think that 'GOD' aka 'divine will/source/energy' transcends religion, groups, time, space, etc. I also heard that 'GOD' is also a/The master scientist/mathmetician/architech. Thats kinda cool too also.


                            Whats crazy is that he says he was 'mocking', but anyone who truly doesn't have any faith, or belief in God or in a Higher Power wouldn't even bother making a prayer, 'mocking' or not. So either deep down he really wanted to believe, or their was already a small bit of faith within him that did believe. That mustard seed. I don't know.
                            But I don't see why its such a big deal that 'HE' believes that Divine Intervention played a part? they are the ones that won the prize/jackpot! Its his/their life. Why try to deny them that?


                            The only sad part about non-believers/athiest or whatever you want to title it, is that they don't allow themselves to see/experience the beauty or joy of a miracle. A lot of times they seem pessimistic in general, not just limited to these topics. They also deny to realize that 'Athiesm' is also 'religion' or a 'religion'.  **perspective**.   But with that being said, I don't like to devulge/divulge or opinionate too much about such matters or subject. Not really into debates. Plus I have lotteries to win :)    At the end of the day, most people want to be right for agenda or for ego sake, or to satisfy ones own ego if you will, even the so called experts and geniuses of the world. It probably takes more than just 'following' a religion, attending a church or reading texts also. But what do I know, this is not the gospel, its just an opinion. The End


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                              You can call it whatever you want.

                              You know what it is and so does everybody else.

                              Your hatred for Christianity is palpable, visceral and seething.

                              Give the rest of the sleeper cell my best.

                              Just like Ghandi once said..."I'd probably be a Christian, If it weren't for Christians".

                              People like you give Christianity a bad name.

                                 
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