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Posted: June 30, 2011, 6:51 pm - IP Logged

Coin Toss + haymaker

Hey!  You guys are padding this with fluff trying to make it go over!

 

(I didn't want to even post because I have my $100 going for under - I went with the big $3.80 payout - if it goes over by 1 post, that means my post pushed it over the line)  Big Grin

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    i guess in the old days even the owners were gambling in a way.when i went to work for a atlantic city casino,back in 87 the owners had an attitude that it was a fun business and it should be a fun place to work.that was true then, now its just like any other corp. i'm not involved in casino ops, i'm in engineeering.almost forgot to mention it changed owners and that is when the fun went away.

    truecritic,

    No padding involved with this post!

    haymaker,

    Gee, I was in Vegas from 1977 to 1993, then river boats here and there. I think AC opened in 1979 - (Resorts?). Even back then we would have players on the game every weekend from Philadelphia, Baltimore, etc...and ask them why they came to Vegas and not AC.

    They said in compatison AC was like checking into Soviet run hotels or something.

    The Vegas dealers hated AC because it pretty well went to destroy the tip system in Vegas. Most dealers figured if they were going to deal every day or night and out up with all that goes with it they'd get paid every day. But AC introduced the paychcks one payday and tip checks the next and that's pretty much the standard now.

    When we started getting dealers from AC they could get around the layout expertly but when we asked them a question like "What's the best night you ever had?" (meaning tip-wise) they'd just say, "I don't know what you're talking about".

    Most of the river boat casinos are based on the "AC model" (management) and some of the pit bosses aren't even in the pits, they stay in an office in the lower deck of the boat and monitor the action (drops on the games, win/loss) on computers.

    Things were definitely better when The Outfit ran things.

    Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

    Lep

    There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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      Posted: July 1, 2011, 1:21 pm - IP Logged

      Coin Toss + haymaker

      Hey!  You guys are padding this with fluff trying to make it go over!

       

      (I didn't want to even post because I have my $100 going for under - I went with the big $3.80 payout - if it goes over by 1 post, that means my post pushed it over the line)  Big Grin

      no padding.got no dog in that fight.i don't gamble in casinos,strictly lottery and horses.

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        truecritic,

        No padding involved with this post!

        haymaker,

        Gee, I was in Vegas from 1977 to 1993, then river boats here and there. I think AC opened in 1979 - (Resorts?). Even back then we would have players on the game every weekend from Philadelphia, Baltimore, etc...and ask them why they came to Vegas and not AC.

        They said in compatison AC was like checking into Soviet run hotels or something.

        The Vegas dealers hated AC because it pretty well went to destroy the tip system in Vegas. Most dealers figured if they were going to deal every day or night and out up with all that goes with it they'd get paid every day. But AC introduced the paychcks one payday and tip checks the next and that's pretty much the standard now.

        When we started getting dealers from AC they could get around the layout expertly but when we asked them a question like "What's the best night you ever had?" (meaning tip-wise) they'd just say, "I don't know what you're talking about".

        Most of the river boat casinos are based on the "AC model" (management) and some of the pit bosses aren't even in the pits, they stay in an office in the lower deck of the boat and monitor the action (drops on the games, win/loss) on computers.

        Things were definitely better when The Outfit ran things.

        resorts was 1st to open 1978. i don.t if the toke system has improved any for the dealers,except for poker dealers who are seperate and do not pool their tips. VEGAS GOTTA LOVE BABY!

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          Posted: July 1, 2011, 10:32 pm - IP Logged

          resorts was 1st to open 1978. i don.t if the toke system has improved any for the dealers,except for poker dealers who are seperate and do not pool their tips. VEGAS GOTTA LOVE BABY!

          I was playing Let it Ride and had a $5 bet for the dealer and hit a full house (11 to 1). The next hand the dealer asked me to put the blacks into my pocket so the regular dealer wouldn't know I made a nice hit. I'm assuming she was the break dealer and was suppose to split any tips with the regular dealer.

          I'm not a dealer but I know there is a huge difference between splitting the tips and a few dealers and splitting them with all the dealers.

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            I was playing Let it Ride and had a $5 bet for the dealer and hit a full house (11 to 1). The next hand the dealer asked me to put the blacks into my pocket so the regular dealer wouldn't know I made a nice hit. I'm assuming she was the break dealer and was suppose to split any tips with the regular dealer.

            I'm not a dealer but I know there is a huge difference between splitting the tips and a few dealers and splitting them with all the dealers.

            stack 47 direct this to coin toss, i work in a casino,but in the maint. div.only thing  i can add is maybe that the dealer liked you.told you to put the blacks in you:re pocket  so you would not lose to much $. WHAT DO YOU THINK COIN TOSS ? i'm just there to work on the keys,locks and security systems


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              Dang it, eff this BS, come out Ridge...This is too freaking boring. I need to berate you more....

              This "Nice Guy" crap ain't working dude. You better git.......................................................................................NOW!

               

               

               

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              Sorry Folks, I was getting withdrawls. I got it off my chest now................................Carry On.........Guitar

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                Posted: July 2, 2011, 3:06 am - IP Logged

                Stack47,

                Would have to have been there. The first dealer could have been yanking the floorperson's chain (blacks are like a sensitive item in the military and their whereabouts should always be known), or it could have been any of several other things.

                There's many ways of splitting tips but pocket jobs (evety one on their own) are just about gone except for poker dealers and maybe some baccarat crews.

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                Sorry to bore you joker.

                Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                Lep

                There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                  Stack47,

                  Would have to have been there. The first dealer could have been yanking the floorperson's chain (blacks are like a sensitive item in the military and their whereabouts should always be known), or it could have been any of several other things.

                  There's many ways of splitting tips but pocket jobs (evety one on their own) are just about gone except for poker dealers and maybe some baccarat crews.

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                  Sorry to bore you joker.

                  Most of the casinos in the east have tip boxes on the left side of the table and the dealers will click the chips on the box so the floorman will hear it before they go in. I've seen that in Nevada too, but I saw dealers put the tips into their shirt pocket in some smaller casinos.

                  I always thought the reason the larger casinos split the tips among all the dealers was because of a collective bargaining agreement.

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                    Dang it, eff this BS, come out Ridge...This is too freaking boring. I need to berate you more....

                    This "Nice Guy" crap ain't working dude. You better git.......................................................................................NOW!

                     

                     

                     

                    ROFL                       

                                 

                                 Green laugh

                     

                    Sorry Folks, I was getting withdrawls. I got it off my chest now................................Carry On.........Guitar

                    Yeah, I'm kinda hopin' some lady wins a jackpot and thanks her saviors: Buddha, God, Jesus, Mary, Jim Jones, Joseph Smith, Allah and Fido (her dog...naturally)...

                    That ahhh'tahhh get things started Hyper

                     

                     

                    Til then...Good Luck Tonight Everyone! Hope your numbers HIT - Party

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                      Most of the casinos in the east have tip boxes on the left side of the table and the dealers will click the chips on the box so the floorman will hear it before they go in. I've seen that in Nevada too, but I saw dealers put the tips into their shirt pocket in some smaller casinos.

                      I always thought the reason the larger casinos split the tips among all the dealers was because of a collective bargaining agreement.

                      Stack47,

                      All the tokes on a crap table are collected by the stickman. When he gets tapped off the stick (he or she, I'm a dinosaur from the pre- stick-"person" days) as they go around to the base they drop the toles in a toke box.

                      21 dealers do the same with a box in the 21 pit.

                      The tokes are then gathered at the end of the shift and may be spit up pit for pit, shift for shift, or all three shifts combined.

                      Some crap dealers used to work table for table, each crew kept what they made.

                      Way back when 21 was also a "pocket" job, every one was on their own but too many favorites were being played. Some dealers got $5 or $25 tables every night some never did. So those on $1 games got toked dollars for the most part. Same hours, same job, great differences in the $.

                      One place where I worked gave the 21 dealers a full share of tokes for 4 hours. Not real fair there. The "early-out"? addicts were making the same in tips as those working the full shift.

                      After AC opened and then Vegas casinos started building twin towers to expand, the casinos basically "gave" the dealers to the tax people. Whne new casinos were buolt the deal was "Give us the dealers". Most every place became a 24 hour split and whether you were the best hustler in the joint or never asked for a bet you made the same. Who is going to risk getting fired for hustling when whatever you get is going to be split 164 ways or more. (some still did.)

                      Then after AC opened and the business went to a paycheck for wages one pay perios and a toke check the next, instead of "What were tokes last night?" the question became "What's the toke rate this check?"

                      There's an old Vegas joke that getting fired for hustling wa so common that it provided Vegas with its cab drivers.

                      Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                      Lep

                      There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                        Stack47,

                        All the tokes on a crap table are collected by the stickman. When he gets tapped off the stick (he or she, I'm a dinosaur from the pre- stick-"person" days) as they go around to the base they drop the toles in a toke box.

                        21 dealers do the same with a box in the 21 pit.

                        The tokes are then gathered at the end of the shift and may be spit up pit for pit, shift for shift, or all three shifts combined.

                        Some crap dealers used to work table for table, each crew kept what they made.

                        Way back when 21 was also a "pocket" job, every one was on their own but too many favorites were being played. Some dealers got $5 or $25 tables every night some never did. So those on $1 games got toked dollars for the most part. Same hours, same job, great differences in the $.

                        One place where I worked gave the 21 dealers a full share of tokes for 4 hours. Not real fair there. The "early-out"? addicts were making the same in tips as those working the full shift.

                        After AC opened and then Vegas casinos started building twin towers to expand, the casinos basically "gave" the dealers to the tax people. Whne new casinos were buolt the deal was "Give us the dealers". Most every place became a 24 hour split and whether you were the best hustler in the joint or never asked for a bet you made the same. Who is going to risk getting fired for hustling when whatever you get is going to be split 164 ways or more. (some still did.)

                        Then after AC opened and the business went to a paycheck for wages one pay perios and a toke check the next, instead of "What were tokes last night?" the question became "What's the toke rate this check?"

                        There's an old Vegas joke that getting fired for hustling wa so common that it provided Vegas with its cab drivers.

                        coin toss,in my early days on the job it looked like the dealers had a good deal for themselves,at one point i did go to school for craps.as time passed i came realize this is a pretty tough job,some people i used to talk to in the breakroom would tell me "i'm outta here" asked where there going they would always say "outta the business"

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                          Posted: July 3, 2011, 12:28 am - IP Logged

                          haymaker,

                          (Maybe we should move this to Gaming but this thread is so far off the OP anyway, what the heck...)

                          Secondary smoke and noise alone are more than enough reason for anyone to leave the business. You get an 8 to 12 hour (or 16 if you get nailed for a double) solid stream of smokers, most of whom while blowing smoke in your face say, "Well I don't smoke that much".

                          That, and stress, casino work is considered very stressful. A lor of it is "adult daycare", whining players who will kvetch about losing a few bucks for hours on end. There are actually players who would go up to the room and have  aprty for getting a dealer fired. 

                          Then there's pit bosses and shift bosses who act like the money is coming out of their own pockets when a game is getting beat. Some are sweaters and the worse ones are called bleeders, they bleed the money. Old joke, that's why the carpets were usually red.

                          Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                          Lep

                          There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.


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                            Yeah, I'm kinda hopin' some lady wins a jackpot and thanks her saviors: Buddha, God, Jesus, Mary, Jim Jones, Joseph Smith, Allah and Fido (her dog...naturally)...

                            That ahhh'tahhh get things started Hyper

                             

                             

                            Til then...Good Luck Tonight Everyone! Hope your numbers HIT - Party

                            Ok, forget old ladies, I'll leave them alone, but If anyone else says it..................... WATCH OUT !

                            BTW, you forgot one of my favorite Gods, the "JU JU" God, (spelling?)

                            He/It lives in the mountains of Africa....

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                              Ok, forget old ladies, I'll leave them alone, but If anyone else says it..................... WATCH OUT !

                              BTW, you forgot one of my favorite Gods, the "JU JU" God, (spelling?)

                              He/It lives in the mountains of Africa....

                              joker something i found a few weeks ago.

                               

                              Jesus would have said, I'm going to create Man and Woman with original sin.
                              Then I'm going to impregnate a woman with myself as her child, so that I can be
                              born,, once alive I will kill myself as a sacrifice to myself, to save you from
                              the sin I originally condemned you to.

                              Thats your dose of relaity for today

                              Big John says. You don't hit the number. The number hits you!!!!

                                             I'm not Big John, I'm Four4me, Big John's a friend.
                                 
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