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joker17,

Just wondering if you'll be going through Roswell and maybe Area 51 on the way to California.

Maybe you'll stop in Vegas and catch a Las Vegas 51s game! (AAA Pacific Coast League)

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

Lep

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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    joker17,

    Just wondering if you'll be going through Roswell and maybe Area 51 on the way to California.

    Maybe you'll stop in Vegas and catch a Las Vegas 51s game! (AAA Pacific Coast League)

    if he's in florida that would not be the shortest route,but i've crossed country 4 times, have not even scratched the surface,  and would recommend to anyone who can afford it to take a crooked route and see the middle of our great nation.oh wait maybe that is on the short route,US Flaganyway its always more fun when you do it on wheels.

    Extraordinary Popular Delusions & the Madness of Crowds    -- Charles Mackay  LL.D.

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      joker17,

      Just wondering if you'll be going through Roswell and maybe Area 51 on the way to California.

      Maybe you'll stop in Vegas and catch a Las Vegas 51s game! (AAA Pacific Coast League)

      coin,not a big time baseball fan,but that is a cool tee, can i order it online ?amazon maybe ? ut oh time to walk the dogs.see ya.

      Extraordinary Popular Delusions & the Madness of Crowds    -- Charles Mackay  LL.D.

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        You obviously don't understand the 20,000 kids paradox that I tried  explaining earlier. And I refuse to keep writing it over and over. You don't get it, and never will. Oh well, stay uninformed, who cares?

        You actually believe that in the 400 billion galaxies, we are the only ones? Only an uneducated person would believe this.

        The first is a moral paradox.  And the second a falsidical paradox.

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          coin,not a big time baseball fan,but that is a cool tee, can i order it online ?amazon maybe ? ut oh time to walk the dogs.see ya.

          haymaker,

          Not sure if amazon would have it.

          Just do a search for Las Vegas 51s and then go to the official site, then Team Store.

          Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

          Lep

          There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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            haymaker,

            Not sure if amazon would have it.

            Just do a search for Las Vegas 51s and then go to the official site, then Team Store.

            ok i'll try it,wins to ya.thanks.

            Extraordinary Popular Delusions & the Madness of Crowds    -- Charles Mackay  LL.D.

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              Well, you're wrong, I never said my grandma had bad experiences with Christians.

               

               

               God knows who his people are and what one calls him/her self is of little value

              Yeah, you know what God's intentions are and who HIS people are. I love when people say..."I know" or "God wants this and wants that", as If they have a direct line.  Pathetic.

               

              Just like the fake regilous who care nothing about God but use him for there own

              gain.

              Fake religions? Let me guess, Christianity is the only REAL one? I can't take anymore of this crap. I'm done arguing with RL over this nonsense. You can believe what you want to believe in RL, but don't come here telling me you know what God wants, what he's thinking, what his plans are and which religion is the correct one. Thousands of other humans with differing beliefs are claiming the same thing you are.  Unfreaking believable !

              Thread started: May 29, 2011

              Total replies: 1326

              Page count according to my settings: 27

              One thing is clear...joker doesn't believe there is a God.

              Another thing is clear...joker doesn't want to read anything about anyone that does.

              I believe that we did not emerge from the sea as some fish or evolve from some amoeba into what we

              are today. Is billions of years time enough to make that dramatic change from microscopic blobs to

              intelligent beings? Or does the story go that we came down from our branches in the trees, burned our

              bananas and left the primate order to form our own human race....uh, exactly what order became

              extinct so we could replace it?

              As much as joker thinks that believing in God is pathetic, useless, ridiculous, a waste of time, not worth

              his time - I think his views are also pathetic, weak, conforming and defiant in a self-serving way.

              Don't let him see that because as much time as he wastes in saying he doesn't care what others

              believe, he does...with a vengeance.

              He's called people azzholes, morons and pathetic for simply mentioning what they believe and yet,

              he can make his own case time after time on his views and expect everyone that does not agree to

              'wake up', 'join the 21st century' and 'get real'.

              joker doesn't need God, he is his own god.

              He's got authority issues, is all. That's perfectly acceptable to me. I'm not expecting a turnaround

              from him, he is free to believe what he wants and if that is that we came from outer space, evolved

              from tiny organisms, lost our tails, crawled out of the sea, just popped into existence one day...then

              fine. He is not me and I know what I believe in. I don't have to explain to anyone WHY there is God.

              I don't need to involve myself in proving where He is or come up with a reason why bad things happen.

              That would be just another thing for a person like him to attack. Those types like to take opportunities

              like that to berate, belittle others and empower themselves.

              However anyone arrives at a point in their life where they achieve faith, that is between them and

              God.

              The atheist turned believer found faith that day..good for him.

              I think the first comment joker had when he came across this story back in May was:

              Coincidence! Period!

              Since that day, he's jumped down anyone's throat who dared to say it was akin to divine intervention

              and made possible a thread that keeps on giving...27 pages worth.

              joker, it's 'unfreaking' unbelievable that you get on someones back for believing in one post, then in

              another say you don't care what they believe.

              Maybe you could be more at peace with your own views and not be so threatened by others if you

              just let it go like you've said many times before. Why do you constantly come back to tell someone

              they are wrong? Don't look for a crack to squeeze through by claiming you are only searching for

              some kind of answer - how classic of someone who doesn't take a solid stand because of the fear of

              being wrong themselves.

              joker on the day that it's proven without a doubt there either is a God:

              "All I ever asked for was proof, I knew I was right"

              or there isn't:

              "All I ever asked for was proof, I knew I was right"

              You need to lose yourself in some happy harem days where you can drink your heinie's and kick back

              on a private yacht and lose yourself in your illusions and forget about the rest of the world that is busy

              with wasted faith in something they can't see. You can just float off into the sunset and keep telling

              yourself that life is good and you knew you were right, you could probably pay everyone to recite the

              phrases with you...just don't count on them to be there with you when the ship sinks, they'll probably

              be talking to God then, not you.

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                Thread started: May 29, 2011

                Total replies: 1326

                Page count according to my settings: 27

                One thing is clear...joker doesn't believe there is a God.

                Another thing is clear...joker doesn't want to read anything about anyone that does.

                I believe that we did not emerge from the sea as some fish or evolve from some amoeba into what we

                are today. Is billions of years time enough to make that dramatic change from microscopic blobs to

                intelligent beings? Or does the story go that we came down from our branches in the trees, burned our

                bananas and left the primate order to form our own human race....uh, exactly what order became

                extinct so we could replace it?

                As much as joker thinks that believing in God is pathetic, useless, ridiculous, a waste of time, not worth

                his time - I think his views are also pathetic, weak, conforming and defiant in a self-serving way.

                Don't let him see that because as much time as he wastes in saying he doesn't care what others

                believe, he does...with a vengeance.

                He's called people azzholes, morons and pathetic for simply mentioning what they believe and yet,

                he can make his own case time after time on his views and expect everyone that does not agree to

                'wake up', 'join the 21st century' and 'get real'.

                joker doesn't need God, he is his own god.

                He's got authority issues, is all. That's perfectly acceptable to me. I'm not expecting a turnaround

                from him, he is free to believe what he wants and if that is that we came from outer space, evolved

                from tiny organisms, lost our tails, crawled out of the sea, just popped into existence one day...then

                fine. He is not me and I know what I believe in. I don't have to explain to anyone WHY there is God.

                I don't need to involve myself in proving where He is or come up with a reason why bad things happen.

                That would be just another thing for a person like him to attack. Those types like to take opportunities

                like that to berate, belittle others and empower themselves.

                However anyone arrives at a point in their life where they achieve faith, that is between them and

                God.

                The atheist turned believer found faith that day..good for him.

                I think the first comment joker had when he came across this story back in May was:

                Coincidence! Period!

                Since that day, he's jumped down anyone's throat who dared to say it was akin to divine intervention

                and made possible a thread that keeps on giving...27 pages worth.

                joker, it's 'unfreaking' unbelievable that you get on someones back for believing in one post, then in

                another say you don't care what they believe.

                Maybe you could be more at peace with your own views and not be so threatened by others if you

                just let it go like you've said many times before. Why do you constantly come back to tell someone

                they are wrong? Don't look for a crack to squeeze through by claiming you are only searching for

                some kind of answer - how classic of someone who doesn't take a solid stand because of the fear of

                being wrong themselves.

                joker on the day that it's proven without a doubt there either is a God:

                "All I ever asked for was proof, I knew I was right"

                or there isn't:

                "All I ever asked for was proof, I knew I was right"

                You need to lose yourself in some happy harem days where you can drink your heinie's and kick back

                on a private yacht and lose yourself in your illusions and forget about the rest of the world that is busy

                with wasted faith in something they can't see. You can just float off into the sunset and keep telling

                yourself that life is good and you knew you were right, you could probably pay everyone to recite the

                phrases with you...just don't count on them to be there with you when the ship sinks, they'll probably

                be talking to God then, not you.

                Well said, dr.

                 

                "However anyone arrives at a point in their life where they achieve faith, that is between them and God."

                 

                Unfortunately, joker thinks it should be between them, God and joker.

                He has appointed himself The Arbiter of Truth and Enforcer of Proper Religious Beliefs.

                No one is allowed to mention anything to do with religious beliefs in conversation without his critique, condemnation and ridicule.

                PERIOD! 


                                                             
                                     
                                                         

                 

                 

                 

                 

                                                                                                                   

                "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

                                                                                                            --Edmund Burke

                 

                 

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                  joker 17, look for a story called " are you an eagle or a duck"it's about a cab driver,but it could be about any job or business model.you will need this when you get to cali. no matter the skill level, the competition there is fierce. nother thing, arguing  w/ people there who have different views won't get you anywhere.

                  Extraordinary Popular Delusions & the Madness of Crowds    -- Charles Mackay  LL.D.


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                    Thread started: May 29, 2011

                    Total replies: 1326

                    Page count according to my settings: 27

                    One thing is clear...joker doesn't believe there is a God.

                    Another thing is clear...joker doesn't want to read anything about anyone that does.

                    I believe that we did not emerge from the sea as some fish or evolve from some amoeba into what we

                    are today. Is billions of years time enough to make that dramatic change from microscopic blobs to

                    intelligent beings? Or does the story go that we came down from our branches in the trees, burned our

                    bananas and left the primate order to form our own human race....uh, exactly what order became

                    extinct so we could replace it?

                    As much as joker thinks that believing in God is pathetic, useless, ridiculous, a waste of time, not worth

                    his time - I think his views are also pathetic, weak, conforming and defiant in a self-serving way.

                    Don't let him see that because as much time as he wastes in saying he doesn't care what others

                    believe, he does...with a vengeance.

                    He's called people azzholes, morons and pathetic for simply mentioning what they believe and yet,

                    he can make his own case time after time on his views and expect everyone that does not agree to

                    'wake up', 'join the 21st century' and 'get real'.

                    joker doesn't need God, he is his own god.

                    He's got authority issues, is all. That's perfectly acceptable to me. I'm not expecting a turnaround

                    from him, he is free to believe what he wants and if that is that we came from outer space, evolved

                    from tiny organisms, lost our tails, crawled out of the sea, just popped into existence one day...then

                    fine. He is not me and I know what I believe in. I don't have to explain to anyone WHY there is God.

                    I don't need to involve myself in proving where He is or come up with a reason why bad things happen.

                    That would be just another thing for a person like him to attack. Those types like to take opportunities

                    like that to berate, belittle others and empower themselves.

                    However anyone arrives at a point in their life where they achieve faith, that is between them and

                    God.

                    The atheist turned believer found faith that day..good for him.

                    I think the first comment joker had when he came across this story back in May was:

                    Coincidence! Period!

                    Since that day, he's jumped down anyone's throat who dared to say it was akin to divine intervention

                    and made possible a thread that keeps on giving...27 pages worth.

                    joker, it's 'unfreaking' unbelievable that you get on someones back for believing in one post, then in

                    another say you don't care what they believe.

                    Maybe you could be more at peace with your own views and not be so threatened by others if you

                    just let it go like you've said many times before. Why do you constantly come back to tell someone

                    they are wrong? Don't look for a crack to squeeze through by claiming you are only searching for

                    some kind of answer - how classic of someone who doesn't take a solid stand because of the fear of

                    being wrong themselves.

                    joker on the day that it's proven without a doubt there either is a God:

                    "All I ever asked for was proof, I knew I was right"

                    or there isn't:

                    "All I ever asked for was proof, I knew I was right"

                    You need to lose yourself in some happy harem days where you can drink your heinie's and kick back

                    on a private yacht and lose yourself in your illusions and forget about the rest of the world that is busy

                    with wasted faith in something they can't see. You can just float off into the sunset and keep telling

                    yourself that life is good and you knew you were right, you could probably pay everyone to recite the

                    phrases with you...just don't count on them to be there with you when the ship sinks, they'll probably

                    be talking to God then, not you.

                    Please explain the mud skipper then.....

                    It's a fish which uses it's fins to walk on land. If that's not Evolution, then I don't know what is. Explain Darwin's Mocking birds on the Galapagos Islands. The same species of bird has different beaks on different Islands. Individual birds have different beaks adapted to the hunting styles on different Islands. 

                     

                    Look, I don't proclaim to know the truth, that's why I'm an Agnostic. You obviously haven't read everything I've written or you'd know this already. But what I do know is that what most claim as truth is debatable.

                    As far as the name calling, I only do this when either someone calls me names, makes racist remarks, or indirectly with inuendos gets sarcastic enough which warrants a harsh reply. Please don't fabricate stuff to make a point. Either back it up, or shut up.


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                      Well said, dr.

                       

                      "However anyone arrives at a point in their life where they achieve faith, that is between them and God."

                       

                      Unfortunately, joker thinks it should be between them, God and joker.

                      He has appointed himself The Arbiter of Truth and Enforcer of Proper Religious Beliefs.

                      No one is allowed to mention anything to do with religious beliefs in conversation without his critique, condemnation and ridicule.

                      PERIOD! 

                      Look who's talking. I write..."Pure coincidence", and you want to stop me of what you label as a "An attack on Christianity". You can label all you want, but that don't make it true.

                      If you can't handle a simple reply just because I ask questions or make statements, that shows me you are not confident about your beliefs.

                      In a perfect world, I imagine you want everyone to nod their heads in agreement about your religious views, but in the real world there are people like me who won't fall for your tactics, and that's why you're so pissed off.

                      Well guess what?....You better get used to it. I ain't going away anytime soon. I'll call the BS fairytales crap out everytime. Unless you got some proof, it's just fairytales amongst a sea of other fairytales.

                      Santa is coming in December, so you better be good....


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                        joker 17, look for a story called " are you an eagle or a duck"it's about a cab driver,but it could be about any job or business model.you will need this when you get to cali. no matter the skill level, the competition there is fierce. nother thing, arguing  w/ people there who have different views won't get you anywhere.

                        nother thing, arguing  w/ people there who have different views won't get you anywhere.

                         

                        You're absolutely correct. Arguing with someone who believes in fairytales as it's spoon fed to them, is like a Geologist arguing with a flat Earth believer, it simply won't work. People don't want to think for themselves. They want others to have all the good and nice answers. It makes them feel better about their lives and where they may possibly end up.

                        It's just like LP. Most people in the LotterySystem Forum don't want to do workouts. They want a simple and easy 10 second formula that sums everything up in a tighty neat package and produces results, Like magic. Well, life don't work that way and neither does the easy way out in lottery.

                        Once someone has been indoctrinated into ONE path that they believe is the ONLY CORRECT PATH, then it's pretty much too late to make them understand how delusional they have become. It gets to the point where I look like an evil intruder into their little cozy comfort zone.

                        Such a shame...!


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                          There's a guy here...

                          ...who really needs pictures to understand things but he CLAIMS he can't view videos.  What a shame.  There's a movie trailer available at the link below that just might help him learn how he could have a common ancestor with this guy...

                          Surely he can view the page describing the movie, and perhaps someone in his inner circle might be willing to fill him in on what they discover when they watch it...

                          http://www.project-nim.com/

                          --Jimmy4164

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                            nother thing, arguing  w/ people there who have different views won't get you anywhere.

                             

                            You're absolutely correct. Arguing with someone who believes in fairytales as it's spoon fed to them, is like a Geologist arguing with a flat Earth believer, it simply won't work. People don't want to think for themselves. They want others to have all the good and nice answers. It makes them feel better about their lives and where they may possibly end up.

                            It's just like LP. Most people in the LotterySystem Forum don't want to do workouts. They want a simple and easy 10 second formula that sums everything up in a tighty neat package and produces results, Like magic. Well, life don't work that way and neither does the easy way out in lottery.

                            Once someone has been indoctrinated into ONE path that they believe is the ONLY CORRECT PATH, then it's pretty much too late to make them understand how delusional they have become. It gets to the point where I look like an evil intruder into their little cozy comfort zone.

                            Such a shame...!

                            Paging Houdini: I'm one of those; I want a simple & easy 10 second formula, otherwise my brain gets scrambled!! Crazy 

                            Until I hear back, I will continue to use my QP formula.

                            Oh yeah, and my personal-pick-run-numbers.

                            Please hurry, I need to win NOW!!

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                              joke

                              Funny thing about the mudskipper is that it ihas been reported to have been around for about 

                              400 million years and has shown no major changes in all that time.  The earth is around 4 1/2 billion

                              years old so using the data from these two how long do we need to wait for evolution to finish the 

                              product.  Maybe evolution died, got tired or just gave up on this one. 

                              Ranchers breed stock with other stock to bring out certain traits,  If a few mutations / deformities took

                              place when certain birds mated which gave them some avantage for feeding in one area opossed to

                              another and a single pair with these traits mated then, well I don't think that is reason enough to

                              throw God away just yet.   I hope this is not all you have, it's funny what some people will believe.

                              RL

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                              I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

                              they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

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