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You've made serious posts?

Scared

Green laugh

 

(Just trying to lighten things up)

You just gave me a brilliant idea. Thanx...

Maybe if i ignore him, he'll go away. It's pointless to argue with someone who is convinced I'm a midget cab driver from Iran who likes to beat women and stinks because I don't take showers. Many times I've reiterated that I'm a very clean person who  was in The Navy, and got out with an honorable discharge ( have dd-214 to prove it) and love this country. I'm disciplined to take showers on a regular basis.

 I take a bath on a regular basis, sometimes twice a day because it's so hot here in Florida. I'm not a midget, I'm 5 foot 7, not tall, but definitely not a midget. I'm a cab driver, but to get the job, you have to take a piss test, and have a backround check done.

 I also don't beat any women by the way, that would be assault and battery, thus my job would be in jeopardy.....all because i stated at the start of this thread that I thought it was coincidence. How anyone can come to that conclusion based on an opposing belief is beyond my understanding.

So does this mean that all German agnostics are Nazis who beat their women and don't take baths?....Someone please explain this lunacy to me.....please..............Green laugh

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    You just gave me a brilliant idea. Thanx...

    Maybe if i ignore him, he'll go away. It's pointless to argue with someone who is convinced I'm a midget cab driver from Iran who likes to beat women and stinks because I don't take showers. Many times I've reiterated that I'm a very clean person who  was in The Navy, and got out with an honorable discharge ( have dd-214 to prove it) and love this country. I'm disciplined to take showers on a regular basis.

     I take a bath on a regular basis, sometimes twice a day because it's so hot here in Florida. I'm not a midget, I'm 5 foot 7, not tall, but definitely not a midget. I'm a cab driver, but to get the job, you have to take a piss test, and have a backround check done.

     I also don't beat any women by the way, that would be assault and battery, thus my job would be in jeopardy.....all because i stated at the start of this thread that I thought it was coincidence. How anyone can come to that conclusion based on an opposing belief is beyond my understanding.

    So does this mean that all German agnostics are Nazis who beat their women and don't take baths?....Someone please explain this lunacy to me.....please..............Green laugh

    You can't change the spots though, can you leopard?

    I don't go by one blurb here or there.

    It's your modus operandi.

    It's your track record.

    You can't resist putting down anybody who expresses their faith in God or especially Christians who do. Why else would I have a problem with an inconsequential little nobody like you?

    Let's look at something you said in the post above:

    "I also don't beat any women by the way, that would be assault and battery, thus my job would be in jeaopardy....."

    Notice the little twerp doesn't say he doesn't beat women because it's wrong...

    He says he doesn't beat women because "that would be assault and battery, thus my job would be in jeopardy"

    So apparently, if his job wasn't jeopardized he could happily continue his homeland tradition of beating women.

     

    But we are the ones that need to learn from him.Confused


                                                 
                         
                                             

     

     

     

     

                                                                                                       

    "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

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      rdgrnr's avatar - walt
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      I'm an agnostic. I don't pretend to know the secrets of the universe.

      Crazy

      Then stop lecturing us on our religious beliefs.

      Just leave that one thing alone you insufferable, nasty, little geek.


                                                   
                           
                                               

       

       

       

       

                                                                                                         

      "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

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        You can't change the spots though, can you leopard?

        I don't go by one blurb here or there.

        It's your modus operandi.

        It's your track record.

        You can't resist putting down anybody who expresses their faith in God or especially Christians who do. Why else would I have a problem with an inconsequential little nobody like you?

        Let's look at something you said in the post above:

        "I also don't beat any women by the way, that would be assault and battery, thus my job would be in jeaopardy....."

        Notice the little twerp doesn't say he doesn't beat women because it's wrong...

        He says he doesn't beat women because "that would be assault and battery, thus my job would be in jeopardy"

        So apparently, if his job wasn't jeopardized he could happily continue his homeland tradition of beating women.

         

        But we are the ones that need to learn from him.Confused

        Do you folks see how this worm twists my words to benefit his rediculous agenda?

        So now Ridge, the Psychologist is reading into my word phrasing and his analyzation is that I'm really a woman beater because I never said outright, that I think it's wrong.

        Are you kidding me?

        Is this the best you got?

        Nevermind eluding the myriad of IMPORTANT issues I brought up early in the thread, which of course led to more middle eastern racist remarks.

        You're impossible to have a decent healthy debate about anything it seems.

        I got your Modus operandi......Get a life!

        Celephane wrap has more intelligence...


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          Then stop lecturing us on our religious beliefs.

          Just leave that one thing alone you insufferable, nasty, little geek.

          I'll let you know when I'm done. Stick around to find out when.

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            Do you folks see how this worm twists my words to benefit his rediculous agenda?

            So now Ridge, the Psychologist is reading into my word phrasing and his analyzation is that I'm really a woman beater because I never said outright, that I think it's wrong.

            Are you kidding me?

            Is this the best you got?

            Nevermind eluding the myriad of IMPORTANT issues I brought up early in the thread, which of course led to more middle eastern racist remarks.

            You're impossible to have a decent healthy debate about anything it seems.

            I got your Modus operandi......Get a life!

            Celephane wrap has more intelligence...

            I didn't twist your words, you lying little coward.

            I quoted you.

            It's all there in black and white and it doesn't take a detective to see what your mindset is, pal.

            You don't have to tell anybody what to think.

            Busted.


                                                         
                                 
                                                     

             

             

             

             

                                                                                                               

            "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

                                                                                                        --Edmund Burke

             

             


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              I didn't twist your words, you lying little coward.

              I quoted you.

              It's all there in black and white and it doesn't take a detective to see what your mindset is, pal.

              You don't have to tell anybody what to think.

              Busted.

              You forgot the words midget, wife beater....and stinky.....

              You're slacking Ridge....

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                You forgot the words midget, wife beater....and stinky.....

                You're slacking Ridge....

                As I've said countless times before - I never repeat myself.


                                                             
                                     
                                                         

                 

                 

                 

                 

                                                                                                                   

                "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

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                  Can I have my 5 stars back?

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                    This fits perfect in here.

                    Fairy Tales


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                      Ruining millions of kid's impressionable minds for the rest of their lives is just as bad. I'd rather have my head chopped off than be a brainwashed robot who spends the rest of their pathetic lives worring about some God sitting up there and whether he's gonna send them to hell or not.

                      Pathetic!

                      Fairytales???

                      I have sat on the floor with Saudi Princes, who in their best whites and headwear
                      served rice on a platter adorned with ground meat turd-like things. We ate with
                      our right hands from the same plate. They asked me if I was a Christian. I said
                      “yes”. They pointed out that I and they had a father in Abraham. “Yes, he is
                      the father of those who believe the promises of God”.

                      Their heritage was out of Ishmael, while mine as a former gentile was through Jesus Christ.

                      When I left, they wanted to know if I could hook them up with any  blond
                      girlfriends I had. They were all redheads.

                      They observe a lunar month. As did the Jews

                      They have the crescent moon and star that was taught by Daniel while in captivity to
                      the predecessors of the magi as to the astronomical observation that would
                      herald the Savior. Rev 12:1 ( The
                      constellation Virgo at sunset as seen in the west), as did the Jews.

                      They expect a redeemer, as did the Jews.

                      Ishmael wanted to claim the promise that was not his and made his own schism/following,
                      mirroring the Judean faith. Now they also have their own book of verse.

                      Even the cursive languages share a common source.

                      The sons of Ishmael always persecuted the sons of Israel and do so today.

                      So ‘fairytales’ is the pot calling the kettle black. There is no mistake I have
                      the same father in Abraham, but I come from the promise side of the family and
                      not the bondwoman. Sarah believed God too, Hebrews 11:11. Ishmael was the
                      poster child for a whole culture based on false entitlement; a divine right.

                      The sons of Ishmael’s redeemer will not be the same cornerstone rejected by the Jews.
                      He will be more like the capstone on the back of a dollar bill. The counterfeit
                      religion and culture of the sons of Ishmael has many parallels to biblical record and Judean culture -
                      not fairytales. They are immersed in
                      fairytales. Oh, and they expect Christ to return too. There is always a
                      sprinkling of truth with the lie.

                      Their new imam will be the King of worldly kings. He will have a genetic claim to the
                      lineage of Abraham and the throne of the world. There is only one family that claims blood lineage to Christ and ultimately,
                      Abraham. They claim as all Caesars do, divine right to rule by. Divine entitlemant.

                      In the country is the last sword of Rome’s Caesar, and it bears a legend. In the
                      country is a pagan temple whose holiest place and floor is made from the temples
                      of conquest; even Rome will again yield because the act of overthrow is to tear down
                      all temples of the defeated to build anew, one. One new religion; that of the King.  Of the two candidates (always
                      have a back-up) One has the surname of Arthur and the Other, David. What sounds
                      better, King Arthur or King David? To whom is not the honor of the Kingdom
                      given? Daniel 11:21 How about one last medieval crusade while negotiating world
                      peace?

                      The carefully vetted breeding has ended. The key vessel is dead and the new vessel
                      is not in the keeping of the lineage to sire a fairytale to come true. The last
                      to bear the name Arthur has been born. With all the tension about 2012, what do
                      you think the purpose is?  The Olympics? What new order will be the product of chaos? How does
                      Camelot sound? You know, political perfection served with whirled peas?

                      Joker,
                      you are not expected to be able to discern the difference between truth and a
                      fairytale. You cannot know the truth and you cannot handle it. The Diaspora
                      exists and are a secret remnant. There are only 144,000 of the true and elect
                      that will be found and protected in a future day. They are all of the bloodline
                      and are not fakes or children of false entitlement. These elect will not be
                      fooled by the worldly Messiah or Imam (who will have a right eye lost, a withered
                      hand and have a fierce countenance [ugly] from the assassination attempt).

                      Be careful for what you wish, many heads will roll and the blood will run to the
                      sea. Some sweet child is being vetted to go way past the dark side, but whoever it is, they go it alone.

                      You must choose, but choose wisely. The aliens you worship as advanced beings do
                      not exist. That is a fairytale. That is very pathetic even though you struggle for answers.

                      The god you are pissed at is not the true God, but somehow you think it is. You were set-up and knocked down.

                      DD

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                        Before I air my opinions I'll go ahead and insult myself and save anyone else here the trouble, since everybody seems so worked up.  Call me a "Why Can't We All Get Along Girl" or maybe the "Peacenik" but I have to add my 2 cents.

                        I find it quite fascinating but distressing that so many people get so vitriolic becuase of this story.  So many different types of people win lottery money - they vary in their morality, their religion, their occupation or lack thereof.  I remember something about a convicted sex offender winning a lottery whose proceeds went to sex abuse victims, and numerous stories about people with criminal pasts who have won.  But I don't recall people getting in such high dudgeon about those stories as they are for this one.

                        Here's my way of fitting this news story and all previous lottery winners into a worldview:

                        For those who believe in a supreme being:  God doesn't spend all His time making our decision for us or influencing the variables in life (like controlling the lottery), but chooses to intervene in peoples lives in any way He sees fit, right?  We're not supposed to try and predict and understand it all.  Take the Hippocratic approach to airing beliefs . . . above all do no harm.

                        For those who don't believe in a supreme being, or believe in one that's different from the other people:  The driving *psychological* force behind desire for a specific religion is the need to belong to an ingroup, along with strong mortality salience.  Believing that you can live on in other ways staves off the looming fear of death, and having a guideline to live your life by saves one the agony of figuring out how to behave - religions define that for you in many ways.  Each of us has our own way of coping with those psychological drives, and religion is one that a lot of people rely on.  Other people "live on" by having family legacies, personal accomplishments, living in the moment and not thinking about the inevitability of death.  Some people try and figure out how to behave by following the patterns of their parents or friends or even a celebrity (gah) rather than a religion.  It doesn't make any of these people, religious or nonreligious delusional, it makes them human and psychologically predictable.  Why demean anyone for just being human?

                        And lastly, I would like to say that before you criticize anyone, you should walk a mile in his shoes.  That way, if he gets angry, you will be a mile away and he will be barefoot.


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                          Fairytales???

                          I have sat on the floor with Saudi Princes, who in their best whites and headwear
                          served rice on a platter adorned with ground meat turd-like things. We ate with
                          our right hands from the same plate. They asked me if I was a Christian. I said
                          “yes”. They pointed out that I and they had a father in Abraham. “Yes, he is
                          the father of those who believe the promises of God”.

                          Their heritage was out of Ishmael, while mine as a former gentile was through Jesus Christ.

                          When I left, they wanted to know if I could hook them up with any  blond
                          girlfriends I had. They were all redheads.

                          They observe a lunar month. As did the Jews

                          They have the crescent moon and star that was taught by Daniel while in captivity to
                          the predecessors of the magi as to the astronomical observation that would
                          herald the Savior. Rev 12:1 ( The
                          constellation Virgo at sunset as seen in the west), as did the Jews.

                          They expect a redeemer, as did the Jews.

                          Ishmael wanted to claim the promise that was not his and made his own schism/following,
                          mirroring the Judean faith. Now they also have their own book of verse.

                          Even the cursive languages share a common source.

                          The sons of Ishmael always persecuted the sons of Israel and do so today.

                          So ‘fairytales’ is the pot calling the kettle black. There is no mistake I have
                          the same father in Abraham, but I come from the promise side of the family and
                          not the bondwoman. Sarah believed God too, Hebrews 11:11. Ishmael was the
                          poster child for a whole culture based on false entitlement; a divine right.

                          The sons of Ishmael’s redeemer will not be the same cornerstone rejected by the Jews.
                          He will be more like the capstone on the back of a dollar bill. The counterfeit
                          religion and culture of the sons of Ishmael has many parallels to biblical record and Judean culture -
                          not fairytales. They are immersed in
                          fairytales. Oh, and they expect Christ to return too. There is always a
                          sprinkling of truth with the lie.

                          Their new imam will be the King of worldly kings. He will have a genetic claim to the
                          lineage of Abraham and the throne of the world. There is only one family that claims blood lineage to Christ and ultimately,
                          Abraham. They claim as all Caesars do, divine right to rule by. Divine entitlemant.

                          In the country is the last sword of Rome’s Caesar, and it bears a legend. In the
                          country is a pagan temple whose holiest place and floor is made from the temples
                          of conquest; even Rome will again yield because the act of overthrow is to tear down
                          all temples of the defeated to build anew, one. One new religion; that of the King.  Of the two candidates (always
                          have a back-up) One has the surname of Arthur and the Other, David. What sounds
                          better, King Arthur or King David? To whom is not the honor of the Kingdom
                          given? Daniel 11:21 How about one last medieval crusade while negotiating world
                          peace?

                          The carefully vetted breeding has ended. The key vessel is dead and the new vessel
                          is not in the keeping of the lineage to sire a fairytale to come true. The last
                          to bear the name Arthur has been born. With all the tension about 2012, what do
                          you think the purpose is?  The Olympics? What new order will be the product of chaos? How does
                          Camelot sound? You know, political perfection served with whirled peas?

                          Joker,
                          you are not expected to be able to discern the difference between truth and a
                          fairytale. You cannot know the truth and you cannot handle it. The Diaspora
                          exists and are a secret remnant. There are only 144,000 of the true and elect
                          that will be found and protected in a future day. They are all of the bloodline
                          and are not fakes or children of false entitlement. These elect will not be
                          fooled by the worldly Messiah or Imam (who will have a right eye lost, a withered
                          hand and have a fierce countenance [ugly] from the assassination attempt).

                          Be careful for what you wish, many heads will roll and the blood will run to the
                          sea. Some sweet child is being vetted to go way past the dark side, but whoever it is, they go it alone.

                          You must choose, but choose wisely. The aliens you worship as advanced beings do
                          not exist. That is a fairytale. That is very pathetic even though you struggle for answers.

                          The god you are pissed at is not the true God, but somehow you think it is. You were set-up and knocked down.

                          DD

                          The Bible is nothing but Plagiarism. Spend some time to do an objective research and you'll find that many religions before Christianity had the exact same stories as in the Bible.

                          Crazy

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                            Hey guys. I have a question for the Christians, but first allow me to divulge in my background for the sake of context. I used to be an active member in my Presbyterian community, attending church retreats twice a year without fail, going on mission trips out of the country to spread the gospel, but have since seen the evils in this world that really made me doubt there is a God out there protecting the innocent. I am now an agnostic, and I must say I find myself depressed more than I should be, given the blessings I've received. I want to believe in God and have that relationship with Him, but I cannot pray with a clear mind and heart no longer. The reality of this world causes too much grief for me to accept the mandates of the Bible. Anyway, my mother is a devout Christian for as long as I can remember. She attends early morning prayer almost every day. She has used her income to build a church and help refugees from religion intolerant nations such as North Korea and parts of China. She is a counselor at this "Spiritual Training" program that apparently helped a lot of people come to peace with God, despite their painful pasts. And yet, her getting cancer was part of "God's plan." She was diagnosed this past Friday, and has since been stricken with fear and sadness. I went to church the following Sunday and prayed for the first time in YEARS, asking God to heal this terminal illness. As I am praying, going through my mother's good deeds in the name of God, and letting it justify God curing her, I find myself becoming angry. According to the good book, EVERYTHING is God's will. Therefore, using my mother as a vessel for His deeds was part of the plan, and so was her getting cancer. I just found it hard to ask Him to cure her cancer, when it was God that gave it to her in the first place. Whether it's the lack of innocence that I possessed as a child, or just the realities of places like Africa and Mexico that I've seen firsthand, I just don't have peace with God anymore. And I yearn for it... Can someone please provide some insight?

                            While the value of a dollar is substantial, hope is priceless. But if you ain't got a dollar, then it's hopeless.

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                              The Lord works in mysterious ways.

                              I Agree!

                              Be kind to a stranger because you never know when you are talking to an angel.Blue Angel

                               

                              KZM

                                 
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