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Posted: February 14, 2012, 11:05 am - IP Logged

I wonder how many 2 million pb winners we will see tomorrow? I doubt if we will see a jp winner for pb tomorrow.

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It is always interesting to see what happens with Powerball & Mega Millions ...........

Conventional statistical wisdom would say that Pennsylvania players would have an advantage, but until November 19, 2011, the last Powerball Jackpot sold in Pennsylvania was February 28, 2009 & Pennsylvania has yet to sell a Mega Millions Jackpot winner .............

Just when you think that Powerball should grow to very large jackpots, we will probably see some "lower" jackpots won!

That is what keeps it interesting for me ................ anything can and will happen ........... and just when you think that you have seen everything ........... something unexpected happens ............. I think that we have Counties in Pennsylvania that are bigger in size and population than Rhode Island!

I play for fun & joined Lottery Post for the same reason ..............

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    Posted: February 14, 2012, 11:09 am - IP Logged

    It is always interesting to see what happens with Powerball & Mega Millions ...........

    Conventional statistical wisdom would say that Pennsylvania players would have an advantage, but until November 19, 2011, the last Powerball Jackpot sold in Pennsylvania was February 28, 2009 & Pennsylvania has yet to sell a Mega Millions Jackpot winner .............

    Just when you think that Powerball should grow to very large jackpots, we will probably see some "lower" jackpots won!

    That is what keeps it interesting for me ................ anything can and will happen ........... and just when you think that you have seen everything ........... something unexpected happens ............. I think that we have Counties in Pennsylvania that are bigger in size and population than Rhode Island!

    I play for fun & joined Lottery Post for the same reason ..............

    You hit the nail on the head dpoly, play for FUN!  After that if lady luck is on your side, that's an extra perk. Lep

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      Posted: February 14, 2012, 11:12 am - IP Logged

      seems like lately only people on the coasts win. sucks to be in the middle.

      I totally agree, jeffrey.  No one on my dead end street has won a jackpot.  But on all the other streets, from New York to Los Angeles, there have been winners.  Must be some kind of conspiracy.  Sucks to live on my dead end street.

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        I doubt we'll see very many, if any, billion dollar jackpots.     The odds of a rollover in the last jackpot were about 66% (Poisson distribution randomized calculation).    The odds of it getting to $336 million were lower than this.   The odds of rollovers decrease as sales increase, but even if three more drawings had the same level as the last, we would have had barely a 25% chance of reaching one billion beginning with a $325 million jackpot.

        By the way the expectation value on this last jackpot was only 0.7.   Usually at this level, under the old conditions, the expectation value was closer to 1.0, almost making the huge lotteries, "good bets."

        I would think we'd need to be well over half a billion to see similar expectation values.


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          Posted: February 14, 2012, 11:16 am - IP Logged

          WWWBUKTN was only refering to the laws of probability! Winners from "small" States simply beat the odds. That is all 3W's was telling us ...............

          Not sure why this is a problem .................. Dead

          No problem at all....... just do not want the thousands of others LP members to get the impression that the the lottery is "rigged" because of these outcome scenarios.

          Seems like no one is truly happy with the results unless they were the winner.    Crying

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            You hit the nail on the head dpoly, play for FUN!  After that if lady luck is on your side, that's an extra perk. Lep

            Thank you my friend ........... this is so much more pleasant than yesterday's threads ......... your post reminds me of my Irish friends that I used to work with ........ they would actually let me have some of their "Irish Luck" once in a while .............. and we would all have a laugh Lep

            I predict that it will get interestinger and interestinger ............ Wink

            and that we might even experience dejá vu all over again ............. Type

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              I doubt we'll see very many, if any, billion dollar jackpots.     The odds of a rollover in the last jackpot were about 66% (Poisson distribution randomized calculation).    The odds of it getting to $336 million were lower than this.   The odds of rollovers decrease as sales increase, but even if three more drawings had the same level as the last, we would have had barely a 25% chance of reaching one billion beginning with a $325 million jackpot.

              By the way the expectation value on this last jackpot was only 0.7.   Usually at this level, under the old conditions, the expectation value was closer to 1.0, almost making the huge lotteries, "good bets."

              I would think we'd need to be well over half a billion to see similar expectation values.

              Hey, what are you trying to do ............. get us to think ................. now stop that Thud

              Just kidding

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                Thank you my friend ........... this is so much more pleasant than yesterday's threads ......... your post reminds me of my Irish friends that I used to work with ........ they would actually let me have some of their "Irish Luck" once in a while .............. and we would all have a laugh Lep

                I predict that it will get interestinger and interestinger ............ Wink

                and that we might even experience dejá vu all over again ............. Type

                You can never laugh to much dpoly........always remember this! Also great for your heart and health.     LOL  Jester Laugh  Lep

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                  I think I understand where your going with this. Because of a higher volume of sales in these states, the leaping lotto balls were supposed to do an abrupt turnaround to produce a win in one of these states.

                   

                  Apparently we need to do a better job at TRAINING THESE BALLS, to go where their supposed to, based upon the demographics and sales volume.

                   

                  Shame on these disobedient lotto balls....what nerve they have!!!    Coffee

                   

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                  Not quite.

                  If you reached into a bag of 100 balls, 99 of which were colored red and one of which was colored black, you'd expect to pick out a red ball 99% of the time.  The winner in RI, based on volume of tickets sold alone, was the black ball in this case.  I don't think that it's a conspiracy at all, merely statistically unlikely.

                  If a third of the tickets are sold in NY, FL, PA and IL, I'd guess that a winner should come from those states a third of the time.

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                    Not quite.

                    If you reached into a bag of 100 balls, 99 of which were colored red and one of which was colored black, you'd expect to pick out a red ball 99% of the time.  The winner in RI, based on volume of tickets sold alone, was the black ball in this case.  I don't think that it's a conspiracy at all, merely statistically unlikely.

                    If a third of the tickets are sold in NY, FL, PA and IL, I'd guess that a winner should come from those states a third of the time.

                    Those ding dong dandy statistical anomalies !!!!!!!!

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                      No problem at all....... just do not want the thousands of others LP members to get the impression that the the lottery is "rigged" because of these outcome scenarios.

                      Seems like no one is truly happy with the results unless they were the winner.    Crying

                      That was exactly my point though.   By no means do I think it's rigged and by one of the smallest contributing states having won one of the biggest jackpots is only further proof.   Not sure why people took exception to what I said when I was just trying to point out that it's as random as it gets.   If people are unhappy with the results unless they win then their goign to live a life of being unhappy as they could live a hundred lifetimes and never sniff a prize above a free ticket for hitting the Powerball.

                      I came close ONCE and it wasn't based on my numbers as I didn't hit a single number.   I lived in Fond Du Lac, Wisconsin for two years and bought my ten tickets on the same day one hour after the 100 Miracles group bought their tickets from the exact same store called Ma & Pa's in Fond Du Lac.   When I went in for a pack of smokes in the morning and saw all the news trucks outside the building I couldn't have driven home any faster but it just wasn't meant to be.   It's funny how you feel when your odds go from 1 in 175,000,000 to 1 in 100,000 or so as they sell a ton of tickets at this place since it's on the "Miracle Mile" where they have had a ton of lotto wins.   I was bummed at what could have been.

                      The Powerball and all the other "true" lotteries are random.   No way they would cheat when they are making money hand over foot for drawing some balls.


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                        The LOTTERY BALLS could really care less what you or I think or speculate, about a states population density, coastal areas, volume of sales........ blah, blah, blah, blah.    Puke

                         

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                          That was exactly my point though.   By no means do I think it's rigged and by one of the smallest contributing states having won one of the biggest jackpots is only further proof.   Not sure why people took exception to what I said when I was just trying to point out that it's as random as it gets.   If people are unhappy with the results unless they win then their goign to live a life of being unhappy as they could live a hundred lifetimes and never sniff a prize above a free ticket for hitting the Powerball.

                          I came close ONCE and it wasn't based on my numbers as I didn't hit a single number.   I lived in Fond Du Lac, Wisconsin for two years and bought my ten tickets on the same day one hour after the 100 Miracles group bought their tickets from the exact same store called Ma & Pa's in Fond Du Lac.   When I went in for a pack of smokes in the morning and saw all the news trucks outside the building I couldn't have driven home any faster but it just wasn't meant to be.   It's funny how you feel when your odds go from 1 in 175,000,000 to 1 in 100,000 or so as they sell a ton of tickets at this place since it's on the "Miracle Mile" where they have had a ton of lotto wins.   I was bummed at what could have been.

                          The Powerball and all the other "true" lotteries are random.   No way they would cheat when they are making money hand over foot for drawing some balls.

                          precisely accurate. if you pick your own numbers, which you should do, quick pics are for the weak minded, it cannot possibly matter what state or where or when you buy the ticket. if you ask for a quick pic then all that matters is the speed of the clerks hand to determine what numbers you get stuck with. which would you rather have. being at the mercy of a patel with slow or quick fingers, or your own ingenuity at picking a combination. this rigged nonsense or lucky state theory is bogus.


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                            Not quite.

                            If you reached into a bag of 100 balls, 99 of which were colored red and one of which was colored black, you'd expect to pick out a red ball 99% of the time.  The winner in RI, based on volume of tickets sold alone, was the black ball in this case.  I don't think that it's a conspiracy at all, merely statistically unlikely.

                            If a third of the tickets are sold in NY, FL, PA and IL, I'd guess that a winner should come from those states a third of the time.

                            Not so my friend.......you could reach into that bag 1000 times, and pull out 999 black balls. Statistically unlikely ........but still probable.  LOL

                             

                            And those little lotto balls...... don't keep track of where the majority of tickets are sold. If a third of tickets are sold in NY, FL, PA, AND IL they may never win for 5 years....or win every week for 5 years. Thats the beauty and allure of this concept we call the "LOTTERY". Banana

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                              I it would nice to see that happen. I guess the tickets start at $5 and the starting jackpot would be 80 to 100 million to start with. I would try it. But lets be honest here , just say if that ever does happen and somewhere from the north once again hits.  There would be chaos beyond compare. Sometimes i think there is paraody in this lotto fever. I am just speaking for me , it seems to be the lottery officals to me already know which state is goona hit. . I am not hating on the people from RI , i am not , i am truly happy for then.  Lets be real about the last 3 big jackpots have came from the north , i find that fishy to me. Conspiacy theories maybe maybe not.  But you have to wonder , is the current system fair? To me there is completive unbalance.  When you look at it from a far ,  their is paraody.  Ask yourself why does one region of the country gets the breaks and the other regions don't. To me the system needs to be changed if not the same area of the country wil keep hitting the big jackpots. If another northern regional state hit again , the lottery officals for the MM and PB should be fired! There is no equal playing for people who play. Tell me when was the last time recently NC , VA , for example has it a jackpot. And don't tell me 250,000 or 500,000 there doesn't count in my book. All i am saying the system need to be changed and changed quickly ,because if not we are going to have the same results everytime a big jackpot is won.  They come up with a system that all 50 states have the same chance to win. Bigger states will always have the advantage over the smaller states keep that mind

                                 
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