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# Lottery jackpots may get bigger

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lotta talk about riggin,in another thread i asked someone to explain the mechanics of the riggin,

no replies,from poster that says its "rigged"

Isn't that Mel Gibsons character name in Lethal Weapon (scratching head) ???

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 Posted: February 15, 2012, 2:11 am - IP Logged

ashabug725,

Oh I agree that PB is more likely to get there first, if either one does, but, the increase in tickets prices has decreased the number of players, thus with less people playing even though they've doubled (or tripled, with Powerplay) the amount individualy played, that leaves for a lot less of the 175 M + combinations being covered.

Those who run the lotteries are always a few steps, no make that miles) ahead of the players.

In a world of hoping for a jackpot of 1/2 of a billion dollars, I don't think a variance of \$28M in a start point is exactly earth shattering.

Just my \$.02

The new minimum jackpot  makes only a small difference because almost all jackpots rolled past \$40 million with the old minimums.

What does make a huge difference is that the jackpot gets twice as much money from each ticket sold, while the odds were only improved by a modest amount. Selling fewer tickets means the jackpot won't grow twice as fast, but since the odds are only slightly better it also means there's almost twice as much chance of a rollover for each drawing.

On average they have to sell about 175 million tickets to have 1 winning ticket. That would put \$112 million in the jackpot prize pool, which would (currently) result in an advertised jackpot of about  \$180 million. On average, the previous matrix would sell 195 million tickets to produce one winning ticket for a cash value of about \$63 million, advertised at (again, based on current rates) \$100 million. The new formula should result in average jackpots that are 80% higher than they used to be.

If the previous PB record of \$177 million cash, advertised at \$365 ,happened today it would be \$318.6 million in cash, and would be advertised as \$510 million. That same amount of cash at the interest rates of 2006 would result in an advertised jackpot of \$650 million. Of course that's before accounting for the utter insanity that's likely to result from advertising a jackpot of more than \$500 million.

We may not see \$500 million this year, but it's very likely within the next few years.

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The new minimum jackpot  makes only a small difference because almost all jackpots rolled past \$40 million with the old minimums.

What does make a huge difference is that the jackpot gets twice as much money from each ticket sold, while the odds were only improved by a modest amount. Selling fewer tickets means the jackpot won't grow twice as fast, but since the odds are only slightly better it also means there's almost twice as much chance of a rollover for each drawing.

On average they have to sell about 175 million tickets to have 1 winning ticket. That would put \$112 million in the jackpot prize pool, which would (currently) result in an advertised jackpot of about  \$180 million. On average, the previous matrix would sell 195 million tickets to produce one winning ticket for a cash value of about \$63 million, advertised at (again, based on current rates) \$100 million. The new formula should result in average jackpots that are 80% higher than they used to be.

If the previous PB record of \$177 million cash, advertised at \$365 ,happened today it would be \$318.6 million in cash, and would be advertised as \$510 million. That same amount of cash at the interest rates of 2006 would result in an advertised jackpot of \$650 million. Of course that's before accounting for the utter insanity that's likely to result from advertising a jackpot of more than \$500 million.

We may not see \$500 million this year, but it's very likely within the next few years.

Interesting points.

The odds of getting 5 of 5 are still the same. The only improved odds are on the powerball, down to 35 from 39. Paying \$2 - \$3 is not a smart play when you can play a state game and get two to three times as many chances at a pot larger than \$1 mill to \$2 mill.

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The REAL CONSPIRACY is he's being paid by the MUSL to entertain and engage us until the next large jackpot - lol!

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Like a freshly planted garden...Let the growth begin and the rewards be bountiful to all of those that contribute.
oh ta heck with it.....give up the goodies tonight !!!

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the real conspiracy is... " they " keep track of my numbers, and even when i get someone Else to play them they know its mine and make sure they lose.

They are waiting until i forget to play my regs and WHAM they will make my numbers come up,.

They know everyone's regs, and  have software checking to see what set of number  where forgotten ea week, thus distressing the max amount of people, and they make them come up.

why you ask? because, they are pure EVIL!!!

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the real conspiracy is... " they " keep track of my numbers, and even when i get someone Else to play them they know its mine and make sure they lose.

They are waiting until i forget to play my regs and WHAM they will make my numbers come up,.

They know everyone's regs, and  have software checking to see what set of number  where forgotten ea week, thus distressing the max amount of people, and they make them come up.

why you ask? because, they are pure EVIL!!!

C'mon Savage(mother)goose......it can't be that bad ???? besides, they only just single you out  cause they know whatta bad kid you were and how much grief you caused !!

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the real conspiracy is... " they " keep track of my numbers, and even when i get someone Else to play them they know its mine and make sure they lose.

They are waiting until i forget to play my regs and WHAM they will make my numbers come up,.

They know everyone's regs, and  have software checking to see what set of number  where forgotten ea week, thus distressing the max amount of people, and they make them come up.

why you ask? because, they are pure EVIL!!!

I think the MUSL needs to launch a nationwide competition to see who can come up with the best most plausible conspiracy theories and have players vote for a winner but then the losers would say its a CONSPIRACY explaing why they didn't win - lol. SCRATCH THAT

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the real conspiracy is... " they " keep track of my numbers, and even when i get someone Else to play them they know its mine and make sure they lose.

They are waiting until i forget to play my regs and WHAM they will make my numbers come up,.

They know everyone's regs, and  have software checking to see what set of number  where forgotten ea week, thus distressing the max amount of people, and they make them come up.

why you ask? because, they are pure EVIL!!!

It is the sole mission of these devious, deceitful numbers savagegoose. Morning, noon and night. While you work, eat, play and sleep these crafty numbers are taunting, mocking us every step of the way.

They can never truly be satisfied, until you are ready to jump off a high rise building. As you descend quickly, screaming with frustration on your journey towards that concrete sidewalk, you briefly look up at your tickets clutched tightly in your fist, and realize your numbers from last night's drawing CAME UP!!

TO LATE. SPLAT.

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ill gladly take one billion

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It is the sole mission of these devious, deceitful numbers savagegoose. Morning, noon and night. While you work, eat, play and sleep these crafty numbers are taunting, mocking us every step of the way.

They can never truly be satisfied, until you are ready to jump off a high rise building. As you descend quickly, screaming with frustration on your journey towards that concrete sidewalk, you briefly look up at your tickets clutched tightly in your fist, and realize your numbers from last night's drawing CAME UP!!

TO LATE. SPLAT.

An old man turned ninety-eight
He won the lottery and died the next day
It's a black fly in your Chardonnay
It's a death row pardon two minutes too late
And isn't it ironic... don't you think

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ill gladly take one billion

Whoa Nellie !!!!! ya startin' to sound like Congress & that White House dude !!!!   won't just 40 million do ??

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An old man turned ninety-eight
He won the lottery and died the next day
It's a black fly in your Chardonnay
It's a death row pardon two minutes too late
And isn't it ironic... don't you think

Alanis Morissette sung my feelings exactly.

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Whoa Nellie !!!!! ya startin' to sound like Congress & that White House dude !!!!   won't just 40 million do ??

I'd settle for \$500, I'm not greedy.

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How about we get a bunch of lottery clubs and a number of people that can afford to throw \$100 at a big jackpot, say \$200 million, and assign them specific combinations so the all the combinations are covered.

1.    The jackpot would get a \$175 million kick in the pants

2.    There would be 34 millionaires and one jackpot winner

I just can’t believe with the number of tickets sold there was only one winner, it’s almost like they control the combinations that are played by auto picks. And if it was public information, or at least information released after drawings, we would be surprised how low the coverage numbers are.

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