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In group lottery wins, splitting the spoils tough

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Posted: April 5, 2012, 2:22 pm - IP Logged

I play in a pool -- there are 3 of us.  We buy tickets 10 weeks in advance and use numbers we have picked and all have copies of the ticket.  The only reason for the pool is that we have to drive to California to buy tickets.  Small wins go to the one who drives to get the tickets for gas.  We have been doing this for 17 or 18 years.  I do not anticipate any problems when we do win -- it is only a matter of time.

Our numbers did come up recently for Mega Millions.  They just weren't all on the same line.  I think it was the first time we had the 5 plus the Mega number on the same ticket.  If only we had rearranged our numbers. LOL

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    Posted: April 5, 2012, 3:36 pm - IP Logged

    N.S.  You sir are a more trusting/giving sole than I am.......Running my pool down here, I made people buy their ticket, bring it to work and initial it in front of me, then I made copies of all tickets and distributed them to the participants. You didn't bring in the ticket before the night of the drawing, you were on your own. No No That way everyone knew who gave and who was in if we won.....kudos to your generosity sir  Patriot

    CDanaT  i never heard of a pool run this way, very interesting and simple,

    was there anything written out/ signed other than initializing the ticket ?

    Extraordinary Popular Delusions & the Madness of Crowds    -- Charles Mackay  LL.D.

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      Posted: April 5, 2012, 6:16 pm - IP Logged

      MississippiMudd,

      You should be OK with three people.

      When the Mirage first opened there was a guy running tickets for a very large pool. He'd make trips to Nipton and took a steno pad with him full of people's names and numbers to play.

      He was in that little lotto place in Nipton one time and some Nervada Gaming Commission agents "busted" him. I don't know how they had any authority in California but they quoted some Nevada law that makes it illegal to be a lottery "agent" running tickets for group play from another state into Nevada.

      If I remember right this was written up in one of those freebie sports papers that the sports book give out, maybe the one that had "Denny the Dog" in it.

      Everyone,

      I think one of the big problems with a pool is people who have been playing in one and then decide to "opt out" for a drawing decide that they wanted to be in after all when the pool wins. Kind of an attitude like, "Oh man, here's my buck (after the fact), you know I'm good for it or would have played if you asked me again.

      Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

      Lep

      There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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        Posted: April 5, 2012, 10:03 pm - IP Logged

        N.S.  You sir are a more trusting/giving sole than I am.......Running my pool down here, I made people buy their ticket, bring it to work and initial it in front of me, then I made copies of all tickets and distributed them to the participants. You didn't bring in the ticket before the night of the drawing, you were on your own. No No That way everyone knew who gave and who was in if we won.....kudos to your generosity sir  Patriot

        CDanaT - very nice idea.  I have never heard of a pool run this way.

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          Posted: April 5, 2012, 10:31 pm - IP Logged

          How hard is it to write up a set of rules that anticipate the problems, and have every member sign? All of the disputes I can remember fit into a very short list of things that are easy to anticipate and easy to cover in the rules.

          People who aren't smart enough to manage that should probably avoid pools, but far more people collect a big check as a result of playing in a pool than playing on their own. Despite the occasional lawsuit there are also plenty of pools that win and then quietly disappear with no indication that they had any trouble at all.

          I see only one flaw in your theory - it's stupid.


                                                       
                               
                                                   

           

           

           

           

                                                                                                             

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            Posted: April 6, 2012, 6:38 am - IP Logged

            CDanaT  i never heard of a pool run this way, very interesting and simple,

            was there anything written out/ signed other than initializing the ticket ?

            We had a small group, kept it simple..If we won something small dollar-wise, it went towards purchasing extra tickets for the next draw, of course free tickets were a standard and marked on the sheet (wfpd) win from  previous draw. If we won over $50 then we split it.  Anything where we had to go to a local office/Hdqtrs in Tallahassee to collect, then we all made the trip at the same time, signed the appropriate lottery forms........  If someone was out sick or on vacation then they didn't play.They could by purchasing an advanced draw ticket to cover the time they were away. One guy bought an advanced draw ticket to cover the month which he said was easier for him. We did allow someone to buy a ticket for them and the ticket was marked (ex: CDT4ABC-os/ov) letting the group know that I bought for the person who was away because of being out sick or on vacation....... Kept a copy of all sheets marked with winnings numbers/winning dollar amounts in a folder so anyone could see. Before being a part of the group, I sent an email explaining the above and they would have to reply & say they understood/agreed to the terms..... Kept a copy of the email in the folder....No issues ever came up.. worked well for us

            Stay Positive, Believe and good things will come your way

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              Posted: April 6, 2012, 6:44 am - IP Logged

              CDanaT - very nice idea.  I have never heard of a pool run this way.

              Thanks Max..........kept it easy, worked for us..Course never had it battle tested in court... but it was simple to set up and maintain.

              Stay Positive, Believe and good things will come your way

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                Posted: April 6, 2012, 1:16 pm - IP Logged

                I see only one flaw in your theory - it's stupid.

                Stretch most rules 'listings' I have read tend to fall into that catagory.

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                  Posted: April 10, 2012, 4:46 am - IP Logged

                  GOLDEN RULE:    Pools WITHOUT RULES are for fools.

                  In the beginning,Lottery Pool intentions are great.
                  Give me your money for the drawing, but don't be late !
                  Its a buck a ticket,don't worry cause we can quick-pick it.
                  Our best friend will buy them for us cause he's first-rate.

                  No copies of tickets bought,,,, need to be made.
                  Because we are all friends and our trust will never fade
                  The jackpot millions  have created dreams by the Gazillions
                  We trust our friend to buy them for us cause he's always played

                  The winning numbers have been drawn and some of them look right
                  We call our friend to see if we won  last night
                  He claims "No, we did not".. thinking that lie wont be caught.
                  Then the greed sets in and we start the legal fight.

                  The lawsuit between friends is not enjoyable or cool
                  Anger,hatred and disgust is what we have towards this fool
                  Whether we lose or win, future mistrust of lottery pools has set in
                  I might have better better off had I listened to the Golden Rule


                   

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