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Lottery winner who kept cashing welfare checks charged with fraud

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sully16's avatar - sharan
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Posted: April 18, 2012, 3:19 pm - IP Logged

Yes... I know.  250,000,000.00 / 3,500,000 = $71.42857143... round to $71.43.  NO ZERO'S WERE FORGOTTEN.  Seems your math techniques may need some refinement.  Shifty

You are right, I am bad, based my calcs on 3 billion,

I talked to a friend on mine, in state government, he says 250 million is real rough, the actual numbers are almost ...hold on to your hat, ... 704 million a month in state welfare entitlements,

Our girl mandy gets 684 a month, some people get 240 per person others get 2500 per person, per month.

The amount of people on welfare entitlements 2.8 miliion, some get food, some get food and cash, others get food, cash, rent, heat, electricty, cell phone, baby carriers, bike helmets, and medicaid.

Just got a phone call, seems another welfare cheat has called in sick and they need me to work, well I ain't going.

I will find a way to bring my income into this house without it being taxed, When I retire that will drop our gross adjusted income and maybe we can get some of our money back, it's not what comes out of my check it's what comes out of my husbands check, and it's enough to support mandy.

250 million p*ssed me off.

So you see the situation is much worse, the 704 has just made me numb, healthy , capable people who will enjoy the ride for as long as they can, it will catch up to them

And for those of you who are in desperate situation, I wish you the best.

my apologies Leroy.

Did you exchange a walk on part in the war ?

For a lead role in a cage?

 

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    Posted: April 18, 2012, 3:32 pm - IP Logged

    You are right, I am bad, based my calcs on 3 billion,

    I talked to a friend on mine, in state government, he says 250 million is real rough, the actual numbers are almost ...hold on to your hat, ... 704 million a month in state welfare entitlements,

    Our girl mandy gets 684 a month, some people get 240 per person others get 2500 per person, per month.

    The amount of people on welfare entitlements 2.8 miliion, some get food, some get food and cash, others get food, cash, rent, heat, electricty, cell phone, baby carriers, bike helmets, and medicaid.

    Just got a phone call, seems another welfare cheat has called in sick and they need me to work, well I ain't going.

    I will find a way to bring my income into this house without it being taxed, When I retire that will drop our gross adjusted income and maybe we can get some of our money back, it's not what comes out of my check it's what comes out of my husbands check, and it's enough to support mandy.

    250 million p*ssed me off.

    So you see the situation is much worse, the 704 has just made me numb, healthy , capable people who will enjoy the ride for as long as they can, it will catch up to them

    And for those of you who are in desperate situation, I wish you the best.

    my apologies Leroy.

    sully16

    perty much says it all.

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      Posted: April 19, 2012, 4:16 am - IP Logged

      If this woman was african american, i can imagine the vile comments.  Since she is not...comments are relatively conservative, typical!

      Personally, I don't give a <snip>, what color the skin is, if someone is abusing the system, put the slime bags in jail!!!

       

       For everyone concerned about the Zimmerman case, remember this, every legal analyst that have made comments on this case, say the charges are wrong. His mother, on national tv stated, " I beleive it was an accident."

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        Posted: April 19, 2012, 5:06 am - IP Logged

        250 million a month , 250 million a month, just in michigan

        Todd please tell me thats a typo, we only have 11 million people here, with roughly 3 and half million on welfare, thats a cost of 83 thousand per person a month.

        Is that the cost of this program?

        Even at 250 million a year thats enough for every man, woman and child to become a millionaire.

        To all you people in your 20's 30's 40's and 50's who are capable of working and just refuse to, you can kiss my half breed ass, I AM DONE, I am done working for you.

        I HOPE YOU FALL ON THE FLOOR AND THE DOG EATS YOU.

        I HOPE YOU FALL ON THE FLOOR AND THE DOG EATS YOU.

        Why you wanna poison a perfectly good dog? LOL

        In neo-conned Amerika, bank robs you.
        Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms should be the name of a convenience store, not a govnoment agency.

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          Posted: April 19, 2012, 8:56 am - IP Logged

          She should get more than 1 lousy night in jail! She stole from the State and yes, she should be charged with a felony.  Her mother says" she tried calling to report it but couldnt get in touch with anyone"  Right and we are supposed to believe that lie???????  She sure didnt have trouble getting hold of anyone when she applied did she?  She never stated once that she tried calling to report it.  I think she should get jail time and get the maximum of the 4 years.

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            Posted: April 19, 2012, 9:01 am - IP Logged

            You are right, I am bad, based my calcs on 3 billion,

            I talked to a friend on mine, in state government, he says 250 million is real rough, the actual numbers are almost ...hold on to your hat, ... 704 million a month in state welfare entitlements,

            Our girl mandy gets 684 a month, some people get 240 per person others get 2500 per person, per month.

            The amount of people on welfare entitlements 2.8 miliion, some get food, some get food and cash, others get food, cash, rent, heat, electricty, cell phone, baby carriers, bike helmets, and medicaid.

            Just got a phone call, seems another welfare cheat has called in sick and they need me to work, well I ain't going.

            I will find a way to bring my income into this house without it being taxed, When I retire that will drop our gross adjusted income and maybe we can get some of our money back, it's not what comes out of my check it's what comes out of my husbands check, and it's enough to support mandy.

            250 million p*ssed me off.

            So you see the situation is much worse, the 704 has just made me numb, healthy , capable people who will enjoy the ride for as long as they can, it will catch up to them

            And for those of you who are in desperate situation, I wish you the best.

            my apologies Leroy.

            "others get food, cash, rent, heat, electricty, cell phone, baby carriers, bike helmets, and medicaid."

            There is no reason for these people to get a job. And it's greed that explains why Amanda Clayton continued to collect after she won the lottery. Other than her lawyer who is doing his job, there is no logical reason for anyone to defend her actions.

            One of the problems with discussions like this is there are probably some LP members in the "system" and are offended when the people who have worked all their lives and paid their taxes call them "deadbeats". I'll bet the welfare booth at the Michigan High Schools' Career Day is the most visited.

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              Posted: April 19, 2012, 9:05 am - IP Logged

              She should get more than 1 lousy night in jail! She stole from the State and yes, she should be charged with a felony.  Her mother says" she tried calling to report it but couldnt get in touch with anyone"  Right and we are supposed to believe that lie???????  She sure didnt have trouble getting hold of anyone when she applied did she?  She never stated once that she tried calling to report it.  I think she should get jail time and get the maximum of the 4 years.

              "I think she should get jail time and get the maximum of the 4 years."

              Indeed, but with the high number of people in Michigan on welfare, at least one will be on the jury and vote "not guilty".

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                Posted: April 19, 2012, 10:07 am - IP Logged

                Personally, I don't give a <snip>, what color the skin is, if someone is abusing the system, put the slime bags in jail!!!

                 

                 For everyone concerned about the Zimmerman case, remember this, every legal analyst that have made comments on this case, say the charges are wrong. His mother, on national tv stated, " I beleive it was an accident."

                This post has been automatically changed by the Lottery Post computer system to remove inappropriate content and/or spam.

                I Agree!

                But I also believe that the Zimmerman case is an entirely different case that has absolutely nothing to do with this case.

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                  Posted: April 19, 2012, 8:49 pm - IP Logged

                  The title says kept cashing welfare checks........its all electronic now lol, just sayin.

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                    Posted: April 20, 2012, 9:35 am - IP Logged

                    I'm going to say this.  I hope she still has some of that money she won to pay her legal costs.  Once she won, she should have made a stronger effort to make it known she was not in need of assistance.  Just  because it was sent to her did not mean she should have kept using it.  She could have gone to the office in person made her case and the situation would have been handeled.  Instead she tried to get slick and it caught up with her.  Now she has to deal with the repercussions.

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                      Posted: April 20, 2012, 10:41 am - IP Logged

                      I'm going to say this.  I hope she still has some of that money she won to pay her legal costs.  Once she won, she should have made a stronger effort to make it known she was not in need of assistance.  Just  because it was sent to her did not mean she should have kept using it.  She could have gone to the office in person made her case and the situation would have been handeled.  Instead she tried to get slick and it caught up with her.  Now she has to deal with the repercussions.

                      She'll probably ask for,and get,a public defender on the taxpayers dime.

                      When I was a boy I was told that anybody could become President; I'm beginning to believe it. ~Clarence Darrow

                      There ought to be one day - just one - when there is open season on senators. ~Will Rogers

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                        Posted: April 20, 2012, 12:41 pm - IP Logged

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                          Posted: April 20, 2012, 11:49 pm - IP Logged

                          What about all those bank bailouts?  I think that's much worse.  What about all those big businesses that are subsidised and some still even had to fold up the tent.    We have so much rampant corruption in our government

                          why is this such a big deal?

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                            Posted: April 21, 2012, 2:14 am - IP Logged

                            What about all those bank bailouts?  I think that's much worse.  What about all those big businesses that are subsidised and some still even had to fold up the tent.    We have so much rampant corruption in our government

                            why is this such a big deal?

                            *begin sarcasm*

                            Because banks and big businesses are run by fine, upstanding Republicans, but poor people are evil, immoral liberals, so screw 'em.

                            *end sarcasm*

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                              Posted: April 21, 2012, 7:40 am - IP Logged

                              You my friend hit the nail on the head. The working class, that know they are working class and not trying to keep up with the liberals, or are trying to be a Republican but don't have the money to be one, are getting getting screwed thrown in jail for minor infractions. But as you said the liberals and our upstanding Republicans that run those big business or have their fingers in them some how, can get away with murder, fraud and everything else and walk away with a smirk on their face like to say " What did I do wrong?"  Let's not tax over a million dollars, they claim they create jobs, how many jobs has Mitt Rummny created with his 14 million he got in interest last year? But he want's to overhaul Medicare and Social Security, if you don't put into either one leave you mitts off Mitt.