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Baltimore man, 81, loses his home after falling for lottery scam

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rdgrnr's avatar - walt
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Posted: March 7, 2013, 6:49 pm - IP Logged

Perhaps she was on gov-ment assistance.

You mean gubmint?


                                             
                     
                                         

 

 

 

 

                                                                                                   

"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

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    HaveABall's avatar - rocket

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    Hi everyone,

     Even though I joined a few months ago, this is my first post. So, I'm saying "Hi" I play Powerball and Megamillions regularly.

    Now, on to this story, I agree with Ronnie316 when he said: "Some people wait all their life to hear "Your a winner!" They just are. I feel sorry for the 81 yr old in this story, but at the same time, I'm thinking, "How could you do this?" "How (on Earth) could you fall for this scam?" Seriously, he learned a valuable lesson the rock-hard way. Hopefully by him spreading his story to other seniors it should help them avoid the same fate.

    Congratulations on joining, JoeCanWin.  We members have a lot to write, some is accurate and some hasn't been triple checked for accuracy before being typed.

    The main ideas, for someone newly committed to playing the two largest, multi-state on-line lottery games here in the good 'ole U. S. of A. are:

    - Don't spend more than $45/month to participate in 1 row, for every drawing;

    - Allow two weeks to pass before submitting your claim form with your winning lottery jackpot ticket, allow up to another 6 weeks to receive the electronic transfer into your checking/financial account (in case your or a co-winner's social security # is encumbered by: back property taxes, past IRS fees, spousal support, child support, judgements, pre-paid food-stamps debit card electronic transfer, etc. -- which the lottery headquarters pays before also deducting high partial federal income taxes, state income taxes, and municipality income taxes.  Certainly don't be sad and cheap about it, just be glad that the lottery headquarters is making all those final payments and charity services cancellations on your behalf at no additional cost or anxiety to you.)  If you find that you still owe a debt/overpayment that was missed, pay it immediately before spending monies on entertainments/furnitures/housings/transportations.

    - Consider it a multi-year playing endeavor (that's what most of the jackpot winners report as their participation);

    - After you win a jackpot, cease playing to win later on-line jackpots (nobody/syndicate has ever won jackpot of two or both the MM or PB on-line lotteries).  Be happy for other people to win the MM and PB jackpots.  Don't seek out past MM and PB jackpot winners to get financial advice (their winning streak may have ended or they could reveal your name to the press);

    - Decide at which, net, millions dollar amount rollovers how many 18+ year-old people you'd care to add their name on your claim form, as either equal % or lesser % co-winners [never a good idea to flood them with monies after you've been paid by lottery headquarters -- when projecting future death tax/estate taxes ... why pay high tax% on something that you already paid high tax% to receive years earlier?  Plan for NO to double taxations spread years apart];

    - Screen all phone calls, that you don't recognize, to voicemail.  If the caller is legit, the person will leave a message ... eventually.  Later, you should peruse messages and decide which to return.  Hint, don't accept free trips, free air tickets, calls from officials indicating that they have no friends and are therefore calling you to help them do something illegal within their job, such as transporting a dead/dying person's monetary funds or stocks to your name and you paying fees or wiring a % with them as a fraud team partner;

    - When you win the on-line game, don't tell friends/family-children (that way they don't accidentally tell other blabbermouths, which could burn you rapidly), try to claim anonymously, excuse yourself from the place your ticket was purchased, any lottery retailer's checking machines, AND meet-the-media event(s), or ask your lawyer to check if they'd be allowed to attend the meet-the-media event in your place (if your lottery headquarter's has made manditory) and possibly write a matching trust's name on the back of the ticket AND the claim form; and

    - Unceasingly work to enjoy the present day and all that it brings, even if it's not yet a big lottery win. Banana

    Having several millions of dollars in my financial accounts means receiving several valuable services each day!

    Disney


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      Posted: March 7, 2013, 7:50 pm - IP Logged

      It seems that since Americans are being targeted for these scams (more directly the senior citizens)...I believe the way we retaliate against these foreign countries is to BOYCOT TRAVELING TO THESE DESTINATIONS !!!

      Hit them in the pocketbook the same way they hit us.  Stop traveling to Jamaica...pretty simple solution to me.  Will teach their government to be more strict on ALL illegal internet activity...and if they see tourist monies dropping at an alarming rate, perhaps they will get the picture.

      Just sayin'

       

      Smash (Drop the Hammer !!!)

      I Agree! Welcome to LP Bleedblue21

        rdgrnr's avatar - walt
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        Posted: March 7, 2013, 7:51 pm - IP Logged

        If the government stepped in and stopped these people sending money to these scammers, someone would complain about one of their rights being taken away.

        Well of course.

        The ACLU would probably step in and defend their right to send money to scammers.

        And the scammers right to conduct business as they see fit.

        Whatever's craziest.


                                                     
                             
                                                 

         

         

         

         

                                                                                                           

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          HaveABall's avatar - rocket

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          Posted: March 7, 2013, 8:00 pm - IP Logged

          It is good to read that Norman "now lives in Nottingham with a family friend."  It is essential not to be homeless, at any age.  I hope that their household is utilizing voicemails/digital answering machines to their  maximum features!

          Patriot

          Having several millions of dollars in my financial accounts means receiving several valuable services each day!

          Disney

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            Posted: March 7, 2013, 9:19 pm - IP Logged

            This is why I don't answer calls from strange area codes. Anyone who answers such calls ends up on some vary strange LISTS.

            I'm the same way now. If I see a number I don't recognize, I either reject the call or just let it ring until voicemail picks up. I've been getting a lot of calls from "Cardholder Services" and other such scammers. They seem to hop from number to number and area code to area code. Sometimes I get several of them a day. If you answer once, they never leave you alone.

            Prisoner Six

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              rdgrnr's avatar - walt
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              Posted: March 7, 2013, 9:35 pm - IP Logged

              It seems that since Americans are being targeted for these scams (more directly the senior citizens)...I believe the way we retaliate against these foreign countries is to BOYCOT TRAVELING TO THESE DESTINATIONS !!!

              Hit them in the pocketbook the same way they hit us.  Stop traveling to Jamaica...pretty simple solution to me.  Will teach their government to be more strict on ALL illegal internet activity...and if they see tourist monies dropping at an alarming rate, perhaps they will get the picture.

              Just sayin'

               

              Smash (Drop the Hammer !!!)

              I'm down with that.  Thumbs Up


                                                           
                                   
                                                       

               

               

               

               

                                                                                                                 

              "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

                                                                                                          --Edmund Burke

               

               

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                Posted: March 7, 2013, 9:48 pm - IP Logged

                Such a sad story! It's a good thing though that he is doing something proactive with his misfortunes.

                On another note...

                Welcome, JoeCanWin!

                HaveABall, great advice! Thanks! Can you expand on this:

                "Decide at which, net, millions dollar amount rollovers how many 18+ year-old people you'd care to add their name on your claim form, as either equal % or lesser % co-winners [never a good idea to flood them with monies after you've been paid by lottery headquarters -- when projecting future death tax/estate taxes ... why pay high tax% on something that you already paid high tax% to receive years earlier?  Plan for NO to double taxations spread years apart];"

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                  Posted: March 7, 2013, 9:56 pm - IP Logged

                  This is why I don't answer calls from strange area codes. Anyone who answers such calls ends up on some vary strange LISTS.

                  I don't have caller ID but I enjoy telling these scammers off, it keep me in practice for dealing the local ones.

                   * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                     
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                    Poor old guy....he just wanted to win so bad it messed up he's thinking...

                    That, combined with old age issues, and desparation regarding a loved one, in this case, his wife. I feel sad for him.  At least he has turned this around and is using it to teach others about the scammers. God bless him.

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                      sully16's avatar - sharan
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                      Posted: March 7, 2013, 11:39 pm - IP Logged

                      Well of course.

                      The ACLU would probably step in and defend their right to send money to scammers.

                      And the scammers right to conduct business as they see fit.

                      Whatever's craziest.

                      Yep, that sounds about right.

                      Did you exchange a walk on part in the war ?

                      For a lead role in a cage?

                       

                                                                  From Pink Floyd's " Wish you were here"

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                        I don't have caller ID but I enjoy telling these scammers off, it keep me in practice for dealing the local ones.

                        I once told a tela marketer, that I wasn't the wife, I was the girlfriend, lol, silence followed

                        Did you exchange a walk on part in the war ?

                        For a lead role in a cage?

                         

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                          To HaveABall, 

                          Nice to meet You :)

                               --and--

                          Wow, thanks so much for all of your advice. I read it all and you have some points of interest that I never thought of and I have done some reasearch online. (So, that is my complement to you). I have been playing MM since September 1996 and played 3 numbers (rows) until a few years ago, then added the number I played for Powerball to that list. So now I play 4 rows twice a week. ($8 weekly). I haven't won more than $10 from any one ticket yet, but that has me thinking that my time to win something more than $100 is coming soon. I have been playing Powerball I think since 1997. I usually only play one ticket twice a week, but when it gets up there, over $100 million, I play two or three tickets (Like I have today, for Saturday night). I have never won more than about $50 at one time from Powerball. I know this will sound a bit crazy, but I feel like I am due to win soon. I probably will ask you some questions I have concerning some of your advice, but I don't have time tonight.

                           

                          Sincerely,

                           

                          Joe

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                            Posted: March 7, 2013, 11:55 pm - IP Logged

                            Such a sad story! It's a good thing though that he is doing something proactive with his misfortunes.

                            On another note...

                            Welcome, JoeCanWin!

                            HaveABall, great advice! Thanks! Can you expand on this:

                            "Decide at which, net, millions dollar amount rollovers how many 18+ year-old people you'd care to add their name on your claim form, as either equal % or lesser % co-winners [never a good idea to flood them with monies after you've been paid by lottery headquarters -- when projecting future death tax/estate taxes ... why pay high tax% on something that you already paid high tax% to receive years earlier?  Plan for NO to double taxations spread years apart];"

                            Hi Megan,

                            Very nice to meet you Megan :)   

                            Thanks for some advice also. If I'm correct I'll need it by summer. I'll explain more about why later in a post. I like MM and Powerball, but haven't won more than $50 from any one ticket at any one time in all the years I have been playing. Oh, I forgot to tell "HaveABall" (so I'll tell you) I have been playing the same numbers since 1996 for Megamillions. Also, I've been playing the same number for Powerball since 1997.  I have NOT missed a drawing for MegaMillions yet! Bed time for me, school in the morning (I'm an old college student in my last semester at the local community college).

                             

                            Bye now, and thanks again :)

                             

                            Sincerely,

                            Joe

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                              Posted: March 8, 2013, 12:00 am - IP Logged

                              I once told a tela marketer, that I wasn't the wife, I was the girlfriend, lol, silence followed

                              Hi Sully

                               

                              Nice to meet you. From your telemarketer comment how you said you were "not the wife". At least you shut them up fast. Of course if they think they are losing you they do need to think of what to say next. I have to ask, did you claiming to not be the wife end it? Or did they try anyways?

                              I probably being a bit nosey ...

                              Bye now,

                              Joe