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Canadian lottery winner fighting to remain anonymous

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Posted: April 28, 2015, 5:33 am - IP Logged

Interestingly, the thread right before this article details how lottery winners in the UK not only can opt out on publicity, but their lottery advises them on how to handle their lottery win so as to reduce the chances of becoming a "lotto loser".  Too bad the U.S. and Canada don't have similar programs...

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    Posted: April 28, 2015, 7:44 am - IP Logged

    '  "I said, 'Supposing I don't want to go along with that' and whatnot," said Senger, 77. "And they said, did you read the back of your ticket, you have to go along with it." '

    And then, of course, there is the obvious question of how you could have read the back of the ticket before you bought it!

    Think!!! You make too much sense. The lottery guys do not shy away from cheap publicity, regardless of how and at whose expense....

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      Posted: April 28, 2015, 9:06 am - IP Logged

      Had a friend share a story some years ago about his elderly aunt winning lottery for $100,000 in Canada. Subsequent to collecting she had two thugs come to her home, demand the money, and when she told them she didn't have any money in the house, they beat her to within an inch of her life. She spent months in the hospital recuperating. I didn't ask for any specifics as to province, game won, et al. but had no reason to doubt the authenticity of what I was told. In anonymity, just because the general public isn't given all the specifics doesn't mean all oversight is removed- another straw man argument.

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        Had a friend share a story some years ago about his elderly aunt winning lottery for $100,000 in Canada. Subsequent to collecting she had two thugs come to her home, demand the money, and when she told them she didn't have any money in the house, they beat her to within an inch of her life. She spent months in the hospital recuperating. I didn't ask for any specifics as to province, game won, et al. but had no reason to doubt the authenticity of what I was told. In anonymity, just because the general public isn't given all the specifics doesn't mean all oversight is removed- another straw man argument.

        Agreed.  That is my exact point why anonymity is needed when collecting a huge lottery jackpot.

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          Posted: April 28, 2015, 1:03 pm - IP Logged

          They can publish my name in every newspaper as long as i don't have to pay taxes.


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            Posted: April 28, 2015, 5:50 pm - IP Logged

            Had a friend share a story some years ago about his elderly aunt winning lottery for $100,000 in Canada. Subsequent to collecting she had two thugs come to her home, demand the money, and when she told them she didn't have any money in the house, they beat her to within an inch of her life. She spent months in the hospital recuperating. I didn't ask for any specifics as to province, game won, et al. but had no reason to doubt the authenticity of what I was told. In anonymity, just because the general public isn't given all the specifics doesn't mean all oversight is removed- another straw man argument.

            i seriously doubt the authenticity of this story. post newspaper account.

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              Posted: April 28, 2015, 6:50 pm - IP Logged

              If someone is that afraid of being named--why did he/she bother to buy a ticket knowing  there was a chance he/she could win?

              Now that is rich coming from someone in a state where you can collect anonymously.

              In the U.S., six states — Delaware, Kansas, Maryland, North Dakota, Ohio and South Carolinaallow winners to remain anonymous.

              If you win,  remember don't be afraid to let the lottery publicise who who are when you win,  otherwise you would be a hypocrite!!

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                Posted: April 28, 2015, 11:24 pm - IP Logged

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                  Was just checking various states winners.  Most have first and last name as well as city.  Instead of saying John Smith from such and such city in such and such city, why not just say John S. from ----   -----.  Not total anonymity but you can't zabasearch John S.  Just my thought on the subject.   Some states do just that, though not enough!

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                    Posted: April 29, 2015, 10:56 am - IP Logged

                    He can't win this battle, I'll stick to going to Delaware for the big $ games.

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                      Posted: April 29, 2015, 12:11 pm - IP Logged

                      Now that is rich coming from someone in a state where you can collect anonymously.

                      In the U.S., six states — Delaware, Kansas, Maryland, North Dakota, Ohio and South Carolinaallow winners to remain anonymous.

                      If you win,  remember don't be afraid to let the lottery publicise who who are when you win,  otherwise you would be a hypocrite!!

                      They do let me leave SC once in a while and when I do I play the lottery in other states,  LOL

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                        Posted: April 29, 2015, 6:02 pm - IP Logged

                        It would be nice if in the U.S. winners were given the choice of anonymity.  Just tell where it was purchased from, that should satisfy most people. 

                         

                        I know someone who won "only" 3 million and they were "harassed".

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                          The winner of a $50 million lottery who waited a year to collect the prize and has still not been named more than a month later is fighting for the right to remain anonymous.

                          The person doesn't want to be identified as the winner of the March 16, 2014, Lotto Max prize, a source who didn't want to be named said, despite a clear statement by the British Columbia Lottery Corp. (BCLC) that anyone buying a ticket must allow their name and photo to be published before collecting a prize.

                          The winner has contacted a lawyer and is prepared to fight for anonymity in the courts, the source said.

                          The BCLC wouldn't comment on whether or not the winner was challenging the identity requirement.

                          But a request to remain anonymous calls into question the long- and widely-held policy by most lotteries to name winners.

                          Daniel Senger of Grand Forks said that when he travelled to the Kamloops BCLC headquarters to collect a $5 million 6/49 ticket he had won in February, lottery officials explained they would be taking his picture with an oversized cheque to run on its website.

                          "I said, 'Supposing I don't want to go along with that' and whatnot," said Senger, 77. "And they said, did you read the back of your ticket, you have to go along with it."

                          He said he "had a bit of a concern" about revealing his identity because he worried about a flood of phone calls and letters "asking for a handout" and he lived at the end of a quiet street in a rural area and he felt vulnerable.

                          "I've had a few letters, but not as many as I thought I would," said Senger, who after buying a new pickup and a quad ATV, shared his winnings with his eight children, 18 grandchildren, eight great-grandchildren and 11 surviving brothers and sisters — "Everybody gets a chunk" — and now lives off his pension as he did before.

                          And he said with a laugh that he had a .357 Magnum to protect himself from unwanted visitors and it wasn't clear if he was joking.

                          Senger said it was obvious to him why BCLC wanted to let others know about his winnings, especially when his daughter, who worked at the Overwaitea in Grand Forks said lottery ticket purchases spiked in the days after it became news.

                          "She said almost every person who came through her till bought a lottery ticket," he said.

                          Like most government agencies who run lotteries, BCLC makes no apologies for wanting to publish winners' identities.

                          It's stated clearly on its website "the Corp. has no obligation to pay or deliver a prize" unless the winner meets conditions stated in legalistic language, including that he "is lawfully entitled to possession of the winning ticket" or that he allows the courts decide who is the lawful holder, and he agrees to having his "name, address, place of residence and recent photograph" taken.

                          "That protects the integrity of gaming and lotteries by being open and transparent," said BCLC spokeswoman Laura Piva-Babcock.

                          The $50 million Lotto Max ticket, which was turned in just before the year was up to collect the prize, has been verified as authentic but the process continues to verify the rightful owner, she said.

                          There is no time limit for that process, taking anywhere from a day to months.

                          BCLC does receive requests for anonymity and it has been granted in the past but it's "very, very rare." Piva-Babcock had no details on why exceptions were made, saying each request is considered on a case-by-case basis.

                          She said BCLC has drafted its policy within provincial privacy laws.

                          A spokeswoman for the Office of the Information and Privacy Commissioner for B.C. said it has "dealt with a complaint in the past regarding B.C. Lottery Corp. and the disclosure of personal information when an individual receives lottery winnings," but couldn't provide details.

                          Anonymity for winners is not allowed by any Canadian lottery corporations, but Loto-Quebec in 2007 temporarily suspended the requirement for winners of amounts over $4 million to be publicly identified after police foiled an extortion plot targeting a Montreal couple who won $27 million. (Loto-Quebec's website has since reinstated the requirement to name winners and includes the provision that in photos winners' faces be uncovered, in reference to that province's controversial burka laws.)

                          In the U.S., six states — Delaware, Kansas, Maryland, North Dakota, Ohio and South Carolina — allow winners to remain anonymous.

                          In Europe, you can opt to remain anonymous, according to a lottery website, which states: "Some people believe it is best to go public so it is over and done with and everyone knows the truth and they will soon be forgotten about. However, some argue that going public is not wise due to the amount of begging letters and pressure for donations."

                          The lottery companies that allow anonymous winners, include the U.K. National Lottery called Camelot and EuroMillions, run by the lottery corporations in the U.K., France and Spain.

                          The EuroMillions site includes testimony from a couple who went public after winning £61-million because they felt uncomfortable at the thought of living with a big secret that would have required them to lie to family and friends and because they wanted to increase awareness for their chosen charities.

                          EuroMillions also gives winners this to think about: "If winners of Camelot go public, they get help dealing with media attention. If they remain anonymous, they're on their own."

                          Camelot would never release their identity, but "tenacious reporters are nevertheless often able to discover a winner's identity and the winner must then deal with all the attendant press attention without help.

                          "Neighbours and friends would certainly notice (a change in lifestyle) and could potentially tip off the media. Having the National Lottery's experienced press office behind you then starts to look like a rather attractive option!" it says.

                          If a winner chooses to keep his identity hidden, Vancouver lawyer Ravi Hira said he should be able to send a trustee to collect it on his behalf if, for instance, going public could endanger his safety.

                          "If certain people found out I'd won so much money and I'd be at risk, I could retain a lawyer as my trustee to accept my prize for me. He would say, 'I'm the lawyer, I'm not disclosing the name of the client and here's the ticket.' "

                          Piva-Babcock said she couldn't comment on the specifics of the $50-million winner but said those types of negotiations would be part of the verification process.

                          Thanks to myturn for the tip.

                          Coin Toss mentioned many times about how a huge effort to remain anonymous could result in even more publicity. In the U.S., because of the Freedom of Information Act, he can't file an anonymous lawsuit.

                          despite a clear statement by the British Columbia Lottery Corp. (BCLC) that anyone buying a ticket must allow their name and photo to be published before collecting a prize.

                          I guess he didn't read the back of the ticket.


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                            Its good to see the guy fighting for his rights. I wonder why the casino doesn't realize customer values. In this case the goodwill of the organization certainly is at stake. I guess they would eventually make him use that Magnum :)