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ILLINOIS LOTTERY MOVES TO COMPUTERIZED DRAWINGS

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Posted: September 27, 2015, 2:08 pm - IP Logged

By Todd Northrop

If the Illinois Lottery issued stocks, now would be the time to sell. 

Despite widespread player sentiment that is strongly against computerized drawings, the Illinois Lottery stated Friday that it is dropping real lottery ball drawings, and moving to the despised computerized draws.

Computerized drawings are conducted by having a computer system that picks the winning numbers using a Random Number Generator, or "RNG".  Players generally dislike the fact that it is impossible for a human to witness the drawing taking place, since it just consists of software running inside a computer.

Worse, computerized drawings have been at the heart of several instances of drawing errors that have gone unchecked sometimes for months at a time.  They were also used to rig a Hot Lotto drawing.  (See MUSL security worker who rigged drawing gets 10 years, Lottery Post, Sept. 9, 2015.)

Illinois lottery players should buy their tickets now, because real drawings won't last much longer.  The dreaded new drawings will begin on Oct. 1.  Computerized drawings will be used across the board, for Pick 3, Pick 4, Lotto with Extra Shot, and Lucky Day Lotto.

Illinois Lottery officials call the move to computerized drawings "exciting".

"For over 25 years, WGN-TV has been the television home of the Illinois Lottery," said B.R. Lane, Acting Director of the Illinois Lottery, in a statement. "While we have been proud to partner with WGN over the years, the new digital draw system will allow us to open an exciting new chapter in Illinois Lottery history, on behalf of our players."

For their part, WGN officials were gracious about the Illinois Lottery move.

"The Illinois Lottery has been a great partner with us over the years," said Greg Easterly, President and General Manager, WGN-TV. "They have decided to take their live lottery drawings in a different direction and we understand their changing business needs. We value and appreciate the long term relationship we have enjoyed with the Illinois Lottery."

The new "digital draw system" will utilize a Random Number Generator, or RNG, to select winning numbers. RNG systems are currently used by the Illinois Lottery for "quick picks" at retail locations, as well as to select winning numbers for raffle games. 

Lottery Post has long railed against computerized drawings, and has warned about the possible dangers of computerized drawings since 2004. The rigging of the $16 million Hot Lotto drawing in 2011 occurred in the exact manner that Lottery Post described in its prescient warning.

More information regarding the digital draw system can be found at www.illinoislottery.com/dailydrawings.

Players who wish to voice their opinions to the Illinois Lottery can do so by sending them an e-mail at: LotteryInfo@NorthstarLottery.net.

The Illinois lottery officials being excited about their lottery switching to computerized drawing from live drawing was badly timed. With the recent failure to get their winners paid. Now, they have player's filing law suits against them. What made them think , the player are really going to be exited about a rng number being pull by a computerized drawing. No one actually see this, you want them to just blindly take your word for it. No, you are about to loss money. The players will play a lot less tickets. So far your word hasn't been that great. You got paid, when your winning players couldn't be paid. The Illinois lottery is on very shaky ground right now.

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    Posted: September 27, 2015, 3:56 pm - IP Logged

     I Agree!     ^^^THIS^^^

     

    This answers your question, Stack47.  It has nothing to do with "nobody" playing a game that could be rigged.  It has to do with the lotteries being extremely short-sighted:  They are saving a few dollars by switching to computerized drawings, but they are losing revenue because many people either won't play or won't play as much.

    The lottery loses the confidence of its players when they make the dumb decision to drop real drawings.

    There are many ways to cut back on the expense of a live drawing, rather than just eliminating it.  Texas is a wonderful model for other states to follow.

    The lottery would still have plenty of customers playing their games. How can you compete with a $70 Billion dollars per year industry? I wouldn't call the lottery an stupid tax on the poor though. It is entertainment and we do not have to be smart play it.

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      Posted: September 27, 2015, 4:00 pm - IP Logged

      How could you think that a pre-test has anything to do with it being a real drawing?

      I thought that pre-test drawings affected the integrity of lottery games. Lottery players feel that they aren't necessary.

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        Posted: September 27, 2015, 4:51 pm - IP Logged

        I thought that pre-test drawings affected the integrity of lottery games. Lottery players feel that they aren't necessary.

        Integrity is not the same thing as necessity.

         

        Check the State Lottery Report Card
        What grade did your lottery earn?

         

        Sign the Petition for True Lottery Drawings
        Help eliminate computerized drawings!

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          Posted: September 27, 2015, 11:55 pm - IP Logged

           I Agree!     ^^^THIS^^^

           

          This answers your question, Stack47.  It has nothing to do with "nobody" playing a game that could be rigged.  It has to do with the lotteries being extremely short-sighted:  They are saving a few dollars by switching to computerized drawings, but they are losing revenue because many people either won't play or won't play as much.

          The lottery loses the confidence of its players when they make the dumb decision to drop real drawings.

          There are many ways to cut back on the expense of a live drawing, rather than just eliminating it.  Texas is a wonderful model for other states to follow.

          It's the state legislators putting the pressure on the Lotteries to take cost cutting measures. You posted lots of news stories about a state lottery not making enough profit satisfy whatever the legislators decide the lottery profits should go. Bet many of these states already went to RNG drawings.

          The Illinois Lottery is getting blamed because state law prevents the Controller from issuing checks over $25,000 and now after being told to cut costs, the players again will blame the lottery people. The Texas Lottery is well run because the Legislators let the Director do his job.

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            Posted: September 28, 2015, 7:52 am - IP Logged

            It's the state legislators putting the pressure on the Lotteries to take cost cutting measures. You posted lots of news stories about a state lottery not making enough profit satisfy whatever the legislators decide the lottery profits should go. Bet many of these states already went to RNG drawings.

            The Illinois Lottery is getting blamed because state law prevents the Controller from issuing checks over $25,000 and now after being told to cut costs, the players again will blame the lottery people. The Texas Lottery is well run because the Legislators let the Director do his job.

            Changing the drawings over was a long-term process, not something that was borne out of, or affected by, the current budget issues that are preventing big payouts.  It was not related to or prompted by the firing of Northstar either. 

            Undoubtedly it was initiated by the lottery (probably by Northstar) as a knee-jerk reaction to their past problems with turning a profit.  So sad that they stupidly yanked real drawings, which will hurt the long-term position of the lottery, in an attempt to shave a few dollars in the short term.  I feel really bad for Illinois lottery players.

             

            Check the State Lottery Report Card
            What grade did your lottery earn?

             

            Sign the Petition for True Lottery Drawings
            Help eliminate computerized drawings!

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              Posted: September 28, 2015, 9:45 am - IP Logged

              I knew it was coming. pick three and four are now dead for me here in IL. Mad just check out some of the payouts in these states that use"RNG" only one pick four winner for the week. BSbeen playing my same number for 6.5 years now it's over. Cussing Face

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                Posted: September 28, 2015, 2:16 pm - IP Logged

                Don't give up on your numbers. 

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                  Posted: October 1, 2015, 4:47 pm - IP Logged

                  Oh this is sad.

                  Maybe they want people to think it's still ping pong balls.

                  Watch the drawings

                  Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                  Lep

                  There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                    Posted: October 1, 2015, 5:32 pm - IP Logged

                    Oh this is sad.

                    Maybe they want people to think it's still ping pong balls.

                    Watch the drawings

                    Yep, all psychological too, and they can deny the intention to mislead about RNGs

                    But I don see a computer in those rolling cages.

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                      Posted: October 14, 2015, 6:44 pm - IP Logged

                      just pay the people or ban  the lottery in this state this state seems to be taking money

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                        Posted: October 20, 2015, 10:03 pm - IP Logged

                        Our Louisiana state lotteries are computer generated, and I've about given up on trying to strategize on these lotteries, whether using software or my own ideas. A few quick picks might be the way to go.Being CNG, it seems they could easily filter results they want for whatever reason, mainly to increase their income.You hear "play the 5 number game, it has the best odds"-but for CNG the odds are for the state-that's about it. This state continually has an income increase every year from lottery-no surprise there.That leaves us with the Powerball or Mega Millions and their astronomical odds for ball-drop lottery playing.