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At least two charged in scheme to manipulate Connecticut Lottery game

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Posted: March 22, 2016, 5:28 pm - IP Logged

WOW!!!! No No Hit With Stick Bash

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    Posted: March 22, 2016, 5:53 pm - IP Logged

    Wow seams like the Indians an jamaicans r the number 1 scamers of the lottery.

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      Posted: March 22, 2016, 7:02 pm - IP Logged

      Roll Eyes It's just a common last name among Indians, nothing more.

      Yes you right its a common name but something more lots of missing ticket and lotto fund if I see a retailer with that name goodluck won't be on my mind I run lol

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        Typical liberal knee jerk reaction. If you have no real proof otherwise accuse anybody who said something you don't like of being racist.

        There have been quite a few stories about lottery scams here on LP and the name Patel comes up over and over.

        Have you been asleep your whole time here and never noticed that, or is your day not complete unless you call someone a racists?

        Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

        Lep

        There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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          Typical liberal knee jerk reaction. If you have no real proof otherwise accuse anybody who said something you don't like of being racist.

          There have been quite a few stories about lottery scams here on LP and the name Patel comes up over and over.

          Have you been asleep your whole time here and never noticed that, or is your day not complete unless you call someone a racists?

          "Typical liberal knee jerk reaction."

          You really ought to stick those silly nonsensical casino gambling remark instead of adding more bigoted remarks to the fire.

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            Posted: March 22, 2016, 9:12 pm - IP Logged

            "Typical liberal knee jerk reaction."

            You really ought to stick those silly nonsensical casino gambling remark instead of adding more bigoted remarks to the fire.

            Lurking

            Nice knowing that all is well with you Stack, how is your team doing or did during March Madness?  On a side note:  It would appear that your cage match with Coin Toss is back on.Big Smile

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              Posted: March 22, 2016, 9:56 pm - IP Logged

              "Typical liberal knee jerk reaction."

              You really ought to stick those silly nonsensical casino gambling remark instead of adding more bigoted remarks to the fire.

              Lurking

              Stack,

              I'm still waiting for you to tell me how many chips (actually they are cheques) a $200 buy in got the player in a Faro game and how much each one was worth.

              And by the way, Palace Station used to be the Bingo Palace but I guess you wouldn't know that never having lived in Vegas.

              I'll play, you really ought to put your habit of highlighting other people's comments in blue just so you can make your own snide remarks on hold.

              As for the remark about the name Patel being involved in a lot og lottery scams being 'bigoted' I guess you've been asleep too.

              Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

              Lep

              There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                Posted: March 23, 2016, 12:43 am - IP Logged

                Don't you mean you used to buy from that store ?

                LOL yes use to!

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                  Posted: March 23, 2016, 12:59 am - IP Logged

                  Yes you right its a common name but something more lots of missing ticket and lotto fund if I see a retailer with that name goodluck won't be on my mind I run lol

                  You might be missing out then. I did a very quick search here for news stories about Patel. Most were store owners where winning tickets were sold, rather than scammers.

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                    Posted: March 23, 2016, 8:54 am - IP Logged

                    While the sales process was flawed, the bigger issue is the ability of lottery machine operators to buy tickets from their own retail location. That should not be permitted. While that wouldn't necessarily prevented this situation, it would have raised the bar somewhat.

                    Retailers have detailed information that the public at-large doesn't have. For example, in PA, a retailer can know whether 90% of lower tier winners have been redeemed out of an instant ticket pack. From my limited understanding, will show up as auto-settled on the retailer's report. While such knowledge is of limited value, it could, in theory, be gamed on high denomination packs ($20 and up) to determine whether few tickets have a better than normal probability of a winner...

                    20 tickets in a PA $30 pack. 90% of 20 is 18. Statistically expected number of winners is ~7. If 90% of lower tier prizes still not redeemed by 18th ticket, then there's a roughly 50/50 chance of the next ticket being a winner. That's better than the typical 1 in ~3 odds. Or if the retailer doesn't want to risk anything, wait until the 19th ticket. If still not 90%, the last ticket is a near sure thing. For lower denominations, this isn't even worth the retailer's time, but for the possibility of winning $10+ ($40 is the minimum non-break-even prize for PA $30 tickets) it's worth gaming.

                    With all that said, I could be mistaken, and perhaps the 90% auto-settle threshold doesn't work the way I believe it does. Sure, someone here with more knowledge can chime in whether this is exploitable. Regardless, point is lottery retailers have information that the general public doesn't, and hence have an unfair advantage.

                    On a different, but related thought to this story, there are many instances of lottery games, despite all the testing, going live with obvious flaws. Among the most notable was the original Texas All or Nothing game that had no prize cap. I noticed that flaw immediately, but it wasn't until a close call many months after the game had gone live, Texas lottery officials took note of the serious issue. Texas pulled the game and reworked it with new play tickets that lacked pre-selected choices (ie. no more 1st 12, last 12, all even, all odd), strongly tout using quick-pick, and added a relatively low prize cap. Texas Lottery dodged a bullet, because they could have potentially lost upwards of a 1/4 Billion (not a typo, yes really that much!) if a popular combination had hit.

                    Sounds like you worked for a retailer who sold lottery games??? 

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                      Posted: March 23, 2016, 12:14 pm - IP Logged

                      "I'm sure the lottery can revoke their ability to sell lottery tickets, but what crime did they commit?"

                      They were charged with "three felony counts of first-degree larceny, first-degree computer crimes and rigging a game." and possibly changed with inciting some LP members to make bigoted comments.

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                      Not one bigoted comment was made, thoughts?

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                      For a lead role in a cage?

                       

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                        Posted: March 23, 2016, 8:00 pm - IP Logged

                        Let's just sat a bank investigator knew that many people  trying to run banking scams such as check kiting schemes and hanging bad paper use the name I.M. Rich.

                        So they have their staff take a really close look at any activity by people using that name.

                        Then some left leaning oh so politically correct clown Goof says that's a really 'racist' thing to do.

                        Now just reread the above and substitute Patel for I.M. Rich.

                        Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                        Lep

                        There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                          Posted: March 23, 2016, 8:49 pm - IP Logged

                          Nice knowing that all is well with you Stack, how is your team doing or did during March Madness?  On a side note:  It would appear that your cage match with Coin Toss is back on.Big Smile

                          I thought I had the worst bracket until I looked at some of the "expert brackets". The selection seeding was horrible, but at the end of the day it was all about match-ups and most the upsets were because of the match-ups. Indiana was a tough match-up for UK regardless of seeding.

                          "It would appear that your cage match with Coin Toss is back on"

                          Naw, I just noticed some confusion among the posters over the difference between racist and bigoted remarks and commented that it appeared like CT's remarks were adding fuel to the fire. If they don't now know the different between bigoted and racist remarks, they won't ever learn.

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                            Posted: March 23, 2016, 9:22 pm - IP Logged

                            Stack,

                            I'm still waiting for you to tell me how many chips (actually they are cheques) a $200 buy in got the player in a Faro game and how much each one was worth.

                            And by the way, Palace Station used to be the Bingo Palace but I guess you wouldn't know that never having lived in Vegas.

                            I'll play, you really ought to put your habit of highlighting other people's comments in blue just so you can make your own snide remarks on hold.

                            As for the remark about the name Patel being involved in a lot og lottery scams being 'bigoted' I guess you've been asleep too.

                            "I'm still waiting for you to tell me how many chips (actually they are cheques) a $200 buy in got the player in a Faro game and how much each one was worth."

                            If you really try, do you think you could ask an even dumber question?

                            "I'll play, you really ought to put your habit of highlighting other people's comments in blue just so you can make your own snide remarks on hold. "

                            I use yellow to highlight when I'm quoting from from an article, but I reserve my snide remarks to the really ignorant.

                            "As for the remark about the name Patel being involved in a lot og lottery scams being 'bigoted' I guess you've been asleep too"

                            Pay attention because there might be a quiz on this later. The post you ignorantly responded with "Typical liberal knee jerk reaction" is no longer being show which means you're doing exactly what I said you were doing; adding fuel to a fire that no longer exist.

                            Look up the definition of "bigoted remark" and hopefully somebody will explain to you why "Typical liberal knee jerk reaction" is by definition a bigoted remark.

                            "As for the remark about the name Patel"

                            Don't be stupid, I never responded to any remarks about the Patels in the article or Patels in general. I responded to your bigoted remark "Typical liberal knee jerk reaction".

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                              Posted: March 23, 2016, 9:44 pm - IP Logged

                              Not one bigoted comment was made, thoughts?

                              Only you know what compelled you to respond negatively to my remarks: "and possibly changed with inciting some LP members to make bigoted comments." even though my remarks were aimed at the poster calling you names.

                              Did you miss where that post was deleted?