Would you pay for lottery numbers from a stranger who claims they have a secret way to beat the lottery?
If you answered "yes" to that question, maybe now you'll reconsider that position. A New Jersey man who claims to have a sure-fire way to beat the lottery couldn't back up those claims, and now he has refunded all his customers in Iowa and will no longer be conducting business in the state.
Iowa Attorney General spokesperson, Geoff Greenwood, says they got a tip on the schemes pushed by Success Publishers LLC.
"We received a mailing from an Iowa consumer that was titled: 'How I win $20,000 every month from the lottery.' After we started to look into it we realized that this a company that is making claims that somehow consumers could beat the lottery. It's a sure win. They asserted that they had a rate of about 90 percent of lottery wins," Greenwood says.
He says one mailing offered to sell "secrets" used by an elite group of "rogue mathematicians" called "Lotto Dragons" to help customers win. "We had concerns that they couldn't back up these claims," Greenwood says. "In other words, there is no such thing as easy winnings from the lottery based on these programs that they sell."
Greenwood says they obtained a list showing 86 Iowans had purchased the systems. "Consumers would pay anywhere from 10 dollars to one hundred dollars for various offerings that are all really about these supposed methods for winning the lottery," Greenwood says. The owner of the company, John F. Abate, agreed to refund approximately $3,800 to Iowans and to not use or sell the list of names of Iowa customers. Abate and his company deny liability or wrongdoing in the agreement.
Greenwood says these are the types of schemes that often target the elderly. "We're concerned about vulnerable Iowans, we're concerned about elderly Iowans. And if you do have someone at home who is older and might be more vulnerable — this is the type of thing you need to watch out for," according to Greenwood. "Whether your loved one is getting a phone call, whether your loved one is receiving a mailing from someone who is making certain types of promises and collecting money at the end of the solicitation."
Abate will also pay $1,000 to the Iowa consumer education fund. The Iowa Attorney General's office will be contacting the Iowans involved for their refunds.
But Iowa is just a single state, and a less populous one at that. If one takes the 86 customers in Iowa and multiplies them by the number of states with lotteries, it is clear that there are likely thousands of people around the United States — maybe more worldwide — who have fallen for the false claims of this person.
The pull of winning a lottery is so strong that some people are willing to throw aside all common sense and willingly send their hard-earned money to a stranger who provides no more than false hopes. In fact, the people paying money for these "systems" may have been better off financially is they just bought Quick Pick lottery tickets with that money. Or if they gave that money to charity, at least someone needy would have benefited. Or if they burned the money, at least they would have the warmth from the fire, which is more than they got from the "lottery system".
Lottery Post often reports on all sorts of lottery scammers who convince people to willingly give up their money. People and companies that claim to win the lottery 90% of the time are just another type of scam that, sadly, huge numbers of people fall for every year.
Hmmmm. Sounds nickly to me.
best new story I've ever read.... we have players now claiming they win 82% of the time. They better think twice about trying to sell eBooks unless you can prove it In a court of law
Caveat Emptor, Latin for "Let the buyer beware".
This is a good post on protecting our elderly. Easy money has a strong appeal. Trust very few people in your life.
https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/219557
Players just have to have and understand all the facts, winning 82% of the time isn't that hard. I win 100% of the time when I play MegaMillions using all fifteen magaballs.
I won't make a profit winning $1-$5 every time I spend $15 on tickets but I will win something.
*Winning 100% of the time doesn't mean you'll make 100% profit every time you play.
Doesn't lottery post sell lottery wheels and other lottery type predictors? Also, what about these other well known lottery predictors like Steve Player?
I'm surprised that this article appeared on the Lottery Post given what they are selling.
All those other predictors are the same. Or at least none of them have met the burden of proof for their claims.
The thing about these systems is that if they worked, that would mean that the draws are predictable and therefore non-random by definition. Which consequently means that any lottery that claims in the rules of the game that the draws are random, is in violation of its own rules, and players should in theory be eligible for refunds.
But no evidence ever offered for these systems that I have seen was ever of the quality that would pass scientific peer-review if put through it. In most cases it was very easy to debunk. But its very convincing for people who aren't very math savvy especially in the fields of probability theory, combinatorics and statistics. Many of them convince them selves and others even further by doing amateur "statistical analyses" in Excel.
"I'm surprised that this article appeared on the Lottery Post given what they are selling."
Just what do you think Lottery Post is selling that guarantees you will make money playing the lotteries?
Em ... nothing? What do you mean?
My Platinum Membership here at Lottery Post has paid for itself many times over.
My pick 3 game has improved tremendously thanks to Inspect 3 and pairs analysis for pick 3 and 4.
I can tell you the numbers that will be picked.....They're the ones that aren't on my lottery ticket!
Lottery wheel guarantees are in fact true, but you have to have the correct numbers to meet that guarantee. There is no deception going on. Obviously you don't understand what a wheel is.
Steve Player does show his winning tickets. But he never claims every person who purchases his system will win. His claims are that his systems will improve people's chances of winning, not guarantee.
I'm not aware of any system or tool on LP that claims someone who uses them will make an X amount of money per month profit.
Wow! A lot of you people are in denial! I know exactly what a wheel is. You state that you have to have the correct numbers in a wheel to meet the guarantee; so tell me how do you get the correct numbers to meet the guarantee and win?? Do you guess? Is it predicted? Are you trying all combinations? I guess you win all the time with your wheels since as you state "lottery wheel guarantees are in fact true...."
Also you state Steve Player never claims every person who purchases his system will win; that's not what's at issue here, you may want to check his website again regarding purchasing his systems. On his website home page, "try a proven system and win today"!!! Come on, don't be naive! Or are you an employee of one of these people???
Denial?
You are ignorant about what a wheel is. LP doesn't provide the numbers to put into a wheel, just the wheels. So that means LP is not guaranteeing you will win. duh..
When Steve Player says his systems have been proved to work, it simply means he has won using them, so in fact the statement is true. You have to be the naive one to think any system, no matter how good it is will make a winner for everyone. No system works for everyone, in every state all the time. That's called a Crystal Ball.
Claim: system works
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Evidence 1: I won using it.
Claim proven true using this evidence? Nope.
Evidence 2: This is the winning ticket for the next draw. (And then it wins something.)
Claim proven true using this evidence? Nope.
Evidence 3: All of these many many people claim that it is working for them including me.
Claim proven true using this evidence? Nope.
Evidence 4: My winnings are way more frequent then expected as per chance calculation.
Claim proven true using this evidence? Nope.
Evidence 5: My winnings will be way more frequent then expected as per chance calculation using these tickets. (And he shows you the tickets.)
Claim proven true using this evidence? Yup, beyond reasonable doubt if he can keep doing it.
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Why was evidence 1 insufficient? People win by luck all the time without using systems.
Why was evidence 2 insufficient? People win by luck all the time without using systems.
Why was evidence 3 insufficient? Many many people claim that they were abducted by aliens.
Why was evidence 4 insufficient? No way to know whether he is hiding his numerous loosing tickets, which is why they have to be shown in advance or checked using LP prediction system, which is what many players here on LP who claim they have a working system conveniently don't do because of reasons.
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Common rebuttal: 'But I don't want to show you my tickets in advance' or 'I don't have time to add them all into LP prediction system ' etc.
Why rebuttal doesn't work? If he is unwilling or genuinely unable to prove it, he still caries the burden of proof nonetheless. Otherwise, I could say that there is Santa on Pluto, but obviously I can't go there to prove it to you so you should just believe me anyway, even without evidence. How he is going to prove it to me is not my problem. But until he does, I have the benefit of the doubt. I have this benefit even if it is impossible to prove his claim.
Who made the claim and where did the evidence come from. If they are just the opinions of some LP members then they prove nothing.
It's nice to see the Iowa Attorney General is now protecting 86 Iowans even though the Iowa Lottery's RNG cheated thousands of Hot Lotto players. Especially now that they are saying several drawings were rigged.
"We received a mailing from an Iowa consumer that was titled: 'How I win $20,000 every month from the lottery.' After we started to look into it we realized that this a company that is making claims that somehow consumers could beat the lottery. It's a sure win. They asserted that they had a rate of about 90 percent of lottery wins,"
Those claims almost sounds like some of the stuff we read in the Systems, Pick-3, and Pick-4 Forums. It's subjective whether or not the seller is claiming large profit wins or any win with a payoff.
I buy an assortment of systems every time I renew my Platinum membership, but most people using the LP systems have enough sense to know it's how a system is used and don't expect a button that creates a winner every time it's pushed.
The pull of winning a lottery is so strong that some people are willing to throw aside all common sense and willingly send their hard-earned money to a stranger who provides no more than false hopes.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that the same as what lottery players do when PB and MM jackpots create ticket buying frenzies?
When I saw the thread title I thought it was going to be about Win-Track.
"I buy an assortment of systems every time I renew my Platinum membership...."
I've never thought of what LP offered its paying members as systems but rather as tools for mining lottery data and access to the complete history of all lottery games.
Having taken the time to create the same for the games I play I haven't maintained a paying membership but still enjoy coming to LP for the latest lottery news and posting a few predictions once in a while.
Ha to the people who have believed and will still believe
Again, you've proven my point. If you read what I stated and you had an open mind, you would understand. I know I keep trying to educate someone who doesn't seem to comprehend so I'm done. I reiterated things that you stated and you claim I don't know a thing about wheels. LOL!!! Have a wonderful and blessed day! Good luck!