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Posted: July 26, 2016, 5:35 pm - IP Logged

I admire what I perceive as your stated desire to vote your conscience after discernment. Presumably, part of your decision making process includes informing yourself in an unbiased manner- after all isn't that the great banner of the "independent" voter, that they are the only group able to cut through the Republican and Democrat party claptrap to make an intelligent voting choice. What baffles me is that you label Trump as running a "Hate campaign"; talk about falling into the trap of the crap that the media and Democrat party always place upon the Republican nominee, no matter who it is and which election cycle it is. Seems to me that a critique of Trump may rightfully lead one to conclude that he is not a tried and true Republican and/or that his positions on many issues seem to have evolved/changed over time, but hateful?  Everyone recognizes that America has millions of foreign born persons living here without legal status; Trump is a hater because he has stated his desire to stop this illegal action for future persons that would disregard American immigration laws and to also punish in some manner those that are already here illegally? If you are a country without enforceable borders and enforceable laws, what kind of country are you? Further, his stated position to thoroughly vet refugees to insure to the best of our ability that we are not allowing anyone into the country that would cause us harm is hateful?  I wish you success in your quest to make an intelligent voting choice but it is my opinion you have more work to do to arrive at an unbiased choice.

I actually agree with Trump about the Immigration problem, both as it pertains to the Middle East and the Mexican/American border.  However, Trump has sabotaged his own public image, calling his character into question. I also question whether or not some of his new policy ideas can pass through both the Congress and the Senate, or is he going to experience serious "stonewall" like previous Presidents.  [We already know the answer to this.]  The job of US President is a serious Reality Check for anyone. 

As long as he doesn't come up with some STUPID Idea that affects the American State Lotteries, I suppose we will have to suffer through 4 years of President Trump. 

One thing that does concern me though, is his idea to cut back on funding to the US Department of Education.  A lot of college students depend on Federal Financial Aid to attend College.  Not every state is using money from the state lottery to fund student college tuition  to the extent that they should or could.  In some states like SC, lottery funding only kicks in after certain types of Federal Financial Aid or other State Financial Aid, and lottery money can only be used for certain college expenses, not for any or everything related to college.

The following comes from a local College website [Community College] pertaining to the use of Lottery Money to fund College Tuition Expenses:

"The amount you can use toward tuition and fee charges is based on the amount of these charges remaining on your account after Federal Pell Grant, FSEOG, SCNBG and NGCAP have been applied to your student account. If you receive a LIFE Scholarship or a tuition waiver, you will not receive LTAP. If your tuition and fees are paid by VA, you will not receive the LTAP award. [LTAP = Lottery Tuition Assistance Program]

  • LTAP will be applied to your student account before any SCC scholarship, outside scholarship or Federal Direct Loan award(s) so that you can use these award(s) for books or receive a cash disbursement.
  • LTAP cannot be used for books, supplies or be disbursed to you by check.
  • Award amounts are determined by the State each semester and are subject to change."

 

Bullet points #1 & #2 seem to contradict each other. 

In the city where I live at, for some reason [???], only the local Community Colleges are receiving State Lottery Assistance.  The local 4 year Colleges are Not.

 

In any case, if Federal College funding is cut, where does that leave the states and students who cannot otherwise afford a College Education.

I really don't think Donald Trump has given some of his ideas any in depth contemplation.  He is only looking at the "larger picture" [Balance the Budget], but we live our lives by "daily snapshots" of the larger picture, and each person's larger picture is DIFFERENT.

Donald Trump could potentially ruin the "larger picture" for students who can't afford a College Education without Federal Financial Aid, b/c state lottery assisted funding for College is suspect in some states.

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    Posted: July 26, 2016, 5:58 pm - IP Logged

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      Posted: July 26, 2016, 6:06 pm - IP Logged

      The sky-is-falling junk commentary about Trump is similar to the he's-dangerous junk commentary that Reagan received during the 1980 campaign vs. Carter.  (For those of us old enough to remember that.)

      It's ironic that all the people going around saying how "scary" Trump is are the very people doing the fear mongering themselves.

       

      Check the State Lottery Report Card
      What grade did your lottery earn?

       

      Sign the Petition for True Lottery Drawings
      Help eliminate computerized drawings!

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        Posted: July 26, 2016, 6:09 pm - IP Logged

        The sky-is-falling junk commentary about Trump is similar to the he's-dangerous junk commentary that Reagan received during the 1980 campaign vs. Carter.  (For those of us old enough to remember that.)

        It's ironic that all the people going around saying how "scary" Trump is are the very people doing the fear mongering themselves.

        Personally, I'm not fear-mongering, I'm observing.

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          Posted: July 26, 2016, 6:11 pm - IP Logged

          Personally, I'm not fear-mongering, I'm observing.

          No, posting that junk commentary tweet was fear mongering.  If you were observing you would have read it without re-posting it here.  You are participating.

           

          Check the State Lottery Report Card
          What grade did your lottery earn?

           

          Sign the Petition for True Lottery Drawings
          Help eliminate computerized drawings!

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            Posted: July 26, 2016, 6:16 pm - IP Logged

            No, posting that junk commentary tweet was fear mongering.  If you were observing you would have read it without re-posting it here.  You are participating.

            Todd, you are very Doloris Umbridge today. No fun.Poke

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              Posted: July 26, 2016, 6:18 pm - IP Logged

              Todd, you are very Doloris Umbridge today. No fun.Poke

              At least you didn't call me Voldemort.

               

              Check the State Lottery Report Card
              What grade did your lottery earn?

               

              Sign the Petition for True Lottery Drawings
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                Posted: July 26, 2016, 6:20 pm - IP Logged

                At least you didn't call me Voldemort.

                Shhhh, we don't say his name Wink

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                  Posted: July 26, 2016, 6:37 pm - IP Logged

                  Trump is by far the greatest Teflon candidate for president we have ever seen.Lesser politicians would have been history for saying the following:

                  We Need a Wall. McCain is no hero.

                  Say what you will,  the guy has a pair.

                  People who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it- George Bernard Shaw.

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                    Posted: July 26, 2016, 6:59 pm - IP Logged

                    Don't worry Mr,Trump is going to WIN BIG I Agree! Hurray! PartyPatriotUS Flag

                    Let it Snow Snowman

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                      Posted: July 26, 2016, 7:35 pm - IP Logged

                      Don't worry Mr,Trump is going to WIN BIG I Agree! Hurray! PartyPatriotUS Flag

                      Convential wisdom says " if a person tells you not to worry, it's best to prepare yourself to do just that : worry. The Russians told the world " don't worry, we have the Chernobyl Nuclear site under control..

                      Don't worry - right!

                      People who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it- George Bernard Shaw.

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                        Posted: July 26, 2016, 9:07 pm - IP Logged

                        You think i play the lottery to win $4? The whole point of me playing the lottery is to get enough money to abandon the United States (although Portland is my fav place in the US) and move to one of five countries (Australia, New Zealand, Canada,Britain or Israel).

                        The whole point of Pearl Harbor was to delay the US buildup as they bogged down in China and couldn't spare much men to fight the US. You love to spew whatever nonsense you read on " Totally Legitimate Lizard People Network".

                        If you really want out that bad

                        you could take a bus to Canada...don't need a lottery win for that.

                        Extraordinary Popular Delusions & the Madness of Crowds    -- Charles Mackay  LL.D.

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                          Don't worry Mr,Trump is going to WIN BIG I Agree! Hurray! PartyPatriotUS Flag

                          Omg. For once I agree with you.

                          J'aime La France.

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                            Posted: July 26, 2016, 9:32 pm - IP Logged

                            The sky-is-falling junk commentary about Trump is similar to the he's-dangerous junk commentary that Reagan received during the 1980 campaign vs. Carter.  (For those of us old enough to remember that.)

                            It's ironic that all the people going around saying how "scary" Trump is are the very people doing the fear mongering themselves.

                            A perfect response. Reagan was unfairly demonized.

                             

                             We have this woman in my office who does zero work all day  and posts vile anti Trump statements on Twitter all day long while telling us how hip and liberal she is. And no, she is not young and everyone hates her since she is the biggest bigot of all. Yet I would never consider posting things about Hillary.

                            And I know the tide has turned when another ranting neighbor at my bus stop could not even speak when she saw the most recent Trump polls.

                            J'aime La France.

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                              Sully I'm surprised that you have weighed in this on this thread. I think you should have kept that to yourself. And now that you have weighed in it shows what your political affiliation is and it also will show that you and your party and people like you don't understand the everyday Americans who gets looked down upon by the millionaires and billionaries and it will not fly with the American people.

                              LOL Guess you haven't been here long enough to know me, most know I am conservative.

                              I understand everyday people very well, I know many millionaires , most are self made and have hearts of gold and are very generous. Yes, some people are very snobby, poor people are snotty mean and rude as well. Depends on how you were raised.

                              You have a biased media pounding the Class wars into your head. You are here because you want to win the lottery and become rich, will it change who you are?

                              Good rule of thumb, never judge a book by it's bank account and if you really want to soil yourself, go read my blogs.

                              Did you exchange a walk on part in the war ?

                              For a lead role in a cage?

                               

                                                                          From Pink Floyd's " Wish you were here"

                                 
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