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Posted: August 22, 2016, 5:39 pm - IP Logged

USC Dornsife/LA Times tracking poll.... Trump 44.6%... Hillary 43.5%.   LOL

http://www.latimes.com/politics/

I can show ten polls showing Clinton leading from 2 to 13 points but dueling poll numbers prove little or nothing. Real Clear Politics has several National and state polls including senate races. In 2012 Obama got less than 52% of the popular vote, but got almost 62% of the electoral vote. Anyone placing a very large wager to get 2:5 on Clinton or 2:1 on Trump might need more information than a 2 or 3 point swing in the current National polls.

IMO, I'd look at the individual state past voting and current polls. For instance Texas has 38 electoral votes and voted Republican by over 10 points in the last four elections. The current polls show Trump leading by 11 points so it's a safe bet Trump will win in Texas. On the other hand California has voted Democrat by double digits in the last four elections and Clinton is currently leading by 13 to 30 points so it's a safe bet Clinton will win in California.

When you add up all the safe bets (states consistently voting for either party in the past and current polls indicating no change) the electoral vote is Clinton 249 and Trump 163. To win Trump needs to win 107 more electoral votes from swing states and must win both PA and Florida.

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    I think its funny how democrats/liberals pull the "uneducated" card.  If you're so "educated" how can you support Hillary as President?  Her policies will drive this country into the gutter.  She wants to open the floodgates to middle-east refugees and wants to legalize millions of illegals currently here which will drive millions more to our southern border.  Have you ever heard of cloward-piven?  You know, the strategy of destroying the American economy through drastically increasing welfare roles.  I'm sure you have.

    I'm educated enough to know what a logical fallacy is and you're full of them.

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      Posted: August 22, 2016, 5:49 pm - IP Logged

      I'm educated enough to know what a logical fallacy is and you're full of them.

      Actually you're not.  Keep kidding yourself.

      Never give up.  Banana

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        Posted: August 22, 2016, 5:54 pm - IP Logged

        I can show ten polls showing Clinton leading from 2 to 13 points but dueling poll numbers prove little or nothing. Real Clear Politics has several National and state polls including senate races. In 2012 Obama got less than 52% of the popular vote, but got almost 62% of the electoral vote. Anyone placing a very large wager to get 2:5 on Clinton or 2:1 on Trump might need more information than a 2 or 3 point swing in the current National polls.

        IMO, I'd look at the individual state past voting and current polls. For instance Texas has 38 electoral votes and voted Republican by over 10 points in the last four elections. The current polls show Trump leading by 11 points so it's a safe bet Trump will win in Texas. On the other hand California has voted Democrat by double digits in the last four elections and Clinton is currently leading by 13 to 30 points so it's a safe bet Clinton will win in California.

        When you add up all the safe bets (states consistently voting for either party in the past and current polls indicating no change) the electoral vote is Clinton 249 and Trump 163. To win Trump needs to win 107 more electoral votes from swing states and must win both PA and Florida.

        They only poll likely voters.  In 2012 only about 53% of eligible voters turned out.  Why?  Because they had no one to vote for.  Don't believe the polls, this is going to be a landslide for Trump.  Wait and see.  LOL  BTW  take a look at his rallies.

        Never give up.  Banana

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          Actually you're not.  Keep kidding yourself.

          Lol Hmmm yet well educated employed me is not posting online in the middle of the night since I have a real job. And when you see someone start to tell others they cannot post and he feels he determines the legitimacy of a poster, that says it all. We are watching a psychological breakdown online. Sometimes it is kinder to give such people the boot so they can move forward.

          J'aime La France.

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            You are a truly sad and pathetic individual with absolutely no self esteem. Your attempt at propping yourself by ridiculing others based on your own life's experience is downright despicable.

            Please seek professional help because you are in dire need of it.

            I have a feeling his days in LP may be numbered. He cannot stand the thought I have more degrees that he will ever have. He cannot tolerate a woman standing up to him. Yet I am gainfully employed and he is not.

            J'aime La France.

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              Posted: August 22, 2016, 9:39 pm - IP Logged

              http://www.politicususa.com/2016/08/19/fact-check-devastates-trump-ad-averages-1-lie-4-seconds.html

              One lie every 4 seconds in his first ad, clearly an honest man.

              http://www.dailywire.com/news/4834/trumps-101-lies-hank-berrien

              101 greatest lies. Not 1 lie, not 101 lies, the 101 greatest.

              Very big difference compared to Hilda where she lies to cover up intentional criminal acts.   Trumps exaggerates many of the

              things he talks about but that's politics.  Doing this drives things home for some people because they get the message that he

              is aware of the problems people see.  Combining Unemployment with under-employment gives us a much better understanding.

              I know several people with advanced degrees working for less than $20.00 a hour.   I hear talk about  how Trump university

              was a rip-off.   For years Obama made it a point to go back to school and get a degree, well many took him up on the offer only

              to find there were no jobs.   Now they are jobless or under-employed paying off student debt while working at a job that pays

              peanuts.  Maybe they should file a civil law suite against Obama.  I know many who would sell back their degrees to pay off the

              debt they incurred going back to school.   Ignore all the bull*hit and look at what is really going on. 

              RL

              Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

              I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

              they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

              USAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Base_Engineer_Emergency_Force

                US Flag Trump / 2016 & 2020  

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                Posted: August 22, 2016, 9:44 pm - IP Logged

                I find most people's talking points on Trump, trivial. 

                RL

                Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

                I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

                they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

                USAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Base_Engineer_Emergency_Force

                  US Flag Trump / 2016 & 2020  

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                  Posted: August 22, 2016, 9:57 pm - IP Logged

                  http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jun/24/bill-maher-obama-hes-drop-dead-atheist/

                  If he was a radical islamist, he would join the party of crazy religious theocrats, not the opposing party. I will never understand how the right wing isn't begging to take in all the syrisan"refugees". They share the Reps views on women, gays, religion etc.

                  You should watch "Hillary's America"  before you dump on the republican party.

                  I find if one ignores the sensationalism and takes in the facts it's very much dead

                  on.

                  RL

                  Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

                  I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

                  they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

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                    US Flag Trump / 2016 & 2020  

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                    They only poll likely voters.  In 2012 only about 53% of eligible voters turned out.  Why?  Because they had no one to vote for.  Don't believe the polls, this is going to be a landslide for Trump.  Wait and see.  LOL  BTW  take a look at his rallies.

                    "Don't believe the polls, this is going to be a landslide for Trump."

                    Naw, I'll watch the polls while you're getting all your excuses ready.

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                      You should watch "Hillary's America"  before you dump on the republican party.

                      I find if one ignores the sensationalism and takes in the facts it's very much dead

                      on.

                      RL

                      A convicted felon is not someone you should listen to.

                      "D’Souza rewrites history, staging a series of still more hokey recreations (complete with some of the worst wig work in the history of the arts) and smothering them with his unctuous narration. His central thesis is that the Democrats were on the wrong side of the Civil War, and because that only happened some 150 years ago, obviously nothing has changed since. D’Souza is compelled by the fact that Republicans were once the party of equal rights, and completely uninterested in the fact that they aren’t anymore.

                      He depicts Andrew Jackson lashing a slave in the morning and sleeping with her at night (“What is it with Democratic Presidents and innocent young women?” he asks, subtly foreshadowing his fetishistic obsessions with Bill Clinton’s penis). He tells us that “No Republicans owned slaves.” Zero. He paints Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood, as the mother of American eugenics because she once spoke at a KKK event (in a desperate bid to get them to stop procreating). He recounts how “The Birth of a Nation” was the first movie ever screened at the White House, and hammers that non-point home by showing one of Griffith’s Klansmen burst out of the screen and onto the White House lawn, to the great delight of Woodrow Wilson."

                      http://www.indiewire.com/2016/07/hillarys-america-review-dinesh-dsouza-documentary-1201707590/

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                        A convicted felon is not someone you should listen to.

                        "D’Souza rewrites history, staging a series of still more hokey recreations (complete with some of the worst wig work in the history of the arts) and smothering them with his unctuous narration. His central thesis is that the Democrats were on the wrong side of the Civil War, and because that only happened some 150 years ago, obviously nothing has changed since. D’Souza is compelled by the fact that Republicans were once the party of equal rights, and completely uninterested in the fact that they aren’t anymore.

                        He depicts Andrew Jackson lashing a slave in the morning and sleeping with her at night (“What is it with Democratic Presidents and innocent young women?” he asks, subtly foreshadowing his fetishistic obsessions with Bill Clinton’s penis). He tells us that “No Republicans owned slaves.” Zero. He paints Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood, as the mother of American eugenics because she once spoke at a KKK event (in a desperate bid to get them to stop procreating). He recounts how “The Birth of a Nation” was the first movie ever screened at the White House, and hammers that non-point home by showing one of Griffith’s Klansmen burst out of the screen and onto the White House lawn, to the great delight of Woodrow Wilson."

                        http://www.indiewire.com/2016/07/hillarys-america-review-dinesh-dsouza-documentary-1201707590/

                        He contributed money to a political candidate... What a crime.  He made a movie critical of obama, so obama's justice department went after him.  You want to talk about crimes?  How about the obama IRS targeting conservative groups?  Or how about Hillary deleting 33,000 emails after receiving an FBI subpoena to produce all her emails?  LOL

                        Never give up.  Banana

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                          Posted: August 23, 2016, 5:07 pm - IP Logged

                          I think its funny how democrats/liberals pull the "uneducated" card.  If you're so "educated" how can you support Hillary as President?  Her policies will drive this country into the gutter.  She wants to open the floodgates to middle-east refugees and wants to legalize millions of illegals currently here which will drive millions more to our southern border.  Have you ever heard of cloward-piven?  You know, the strategy of destroying the American economy through drastically increasing welfare roles.  I'm sure you have.

                          Nope "ridiculing others" is when you offer your uneducated opinions on how jackpot winners should collect and spend their winnings. Actually it's more like you are pretending to ridicule jackpot winnings; how many W-2Gs did you get the last ten years?

                          "I think its funny how democrats/liberals pull the "uneducated" card."

                          Bet lots of people noticed your lack of reading comprehension. If you never won a major jackpot you have zero experience spending the winning and unless you won a $25,000 jackpot you never experienced taxes being deducted from the winnings.

                          You posted in the Cynthia Stafford thread and there is lots of criticism of how Stafford spent her winnings. Can you say for a fact it was "educated" criticism?

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                            Posted: August 23, 2016, 5:13 pm - IP Logged

                            I find most people's talking points on Trump, trivial. 

                            RL

                            "He's not a war hero, he's a war hero because he was captured. I like people that weren't captured."

                            And apparently the VFW didn't think Trump's remarks about John McCain and a Gold Star family "trivial".

                            Election year or not, the VFW will not tolerate anyone berating a Gold Star family member for exercising his or her right of speech or expression,”

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                              Posted: August 23, 2016, 5:47 pm - IP Logged

                              They only poll likely voters.  In 2012 only about 53% of eligible voters turned out.  Why?  Because they had no one to vote for.  Don't believe the polls, this is going to be a landslide for Trump.  Wait and see.  LOL  BTW  take a look at his rallies.

                              "They only poll likely voters."

                              Does it really make any sense to poll ineligibles or that didn't vote in the last election and won't vote in the next?

                              "In 2012 only about 53% of eligible voters turned out. "

                              In 2008 it was 62.3% and 49% in 1996. What is your point?

                              "Because they had no one to vote for."

                              That's weird because every time I voted in a Presidential election, there were several candidates.

                              "Don't believe the polls, this is going to be a landslide for Trump.  Wait and see."

                              So the fact Ted Cruz won the Wisconsin Republican primary and Clinton is now leading by 15 points in "polls of likely voters" is an educated opinion?

                              "BTW  take a look at his rallies."

                              Are they bigger than Bernie's rallies or the monster size crowds McGovern got in 1972?

                                 
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