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Speculation begins about NJ winner of Mega Millions lottery

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"I agree, if a business can't respect their customer's privacy, they will, and should, loose business."

I certainly don't disagree, but if you've got the first clue about human nature you have to assume that any time a retailer knows they sold a ticket for a major prize there's a very good chance that they're going to look at any video they have. It's probably much less likely at a large store, such as a grocery store, and stores that are part of a chain. I know that some of the chain stores in my area donate lottery bonuses to causes in the general area where the ticket was sold, which is another reason to buy at those stores, IMHO.

Of course for the owner to have a reasonable idea who the winner is the lottery would have to tell the retailer when the ticket was sold. Telling the public that a winning ticket was sold on "Thursday morning" or "Friday afternoon" is reasonable, but I can't see any logical reason why they would tell a retailer when the ticket was sold  with enough precision for the retailer to actually know which sales was the winning ticket.

"the NJ lottery commission hasn't asked for the footage which I doubt they will unless no one calls or makes an attempt to claim this prize"

Waiting several months to get the video would be an incredibly bad idea, because it may not exist then. There's a chance the store would keep the video since they know they sold a winner, but normally video gets saved for a period of time and then gets overwritten by new video. Of course if you pay attention to what the article says, the lottery just hadn't taken possession as of whatever unknown time the lottery representative said he didn't have the video. Getting any video and reviewing it is a standard part of the security and validation process.

"the "regular" is more than likely to be someone who plays often"

Why would you think that? This jackpot didn't generate huge sales, but it did sell about 5 to 6 times as many tickets as were sold for all of the jackpots before it reached $204 million. The winner may be a regular customer, but if the retailer sold 5 or 6 times as many tickets as usual perhaps 2/3 of those tickets were sold to people who don't buy tickets on a regular basis.

"Why would you think that"

 Are you asking me why man thinks? I'm confused because usually I have a thought and then I share it. To me the sales don't matter rather it generated 20 times as many tickets a regular is a regular so I fail to understand the significance of sharing this.

"If you pay attention to what the article says"

 I did say that the NJ lotto commission hasn't asked for the footage.....which is what the article says. Then I added my opinion which I thought was allowed here. Maybe not

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    There are two people who for certain know who won. 

     

     

    The store owner who isn't talking and the winner of the jackpot. 

     

    We will have to wait.  That is it my friends.

    I love pecans and making sales with commissions.   

    My amazon store is just like the lottery.

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      Now, what would take this jackpot win to another level is if, the winner in haste, had signed the back of the ticket, and then decided that it was a bad idea, and now wants to fight for anonymity...

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        Now, what would take this jackpot win to another level is if, the winner in haste, had signed the back of the ticket, and then decided that it was a bad idea, and now wants to fight for anonymity...

        Yeah I agree I had mentioned this briefly in the "One lottery ticket sold in New Jersey wins $521 million Mega Millions jackpot"  post. I really hope this is not the case but in this day and age you just never know.

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          Final jackpot tally reaches $533 million

          As speculation swirled around the identity of the world's newest multi-millionaire, the owner of the mini-mart where Friday's winning Mega Millions ticket was sold said he reviewed surveillance footage to see if he could pinpoint the lucky customer.

          New Jersey Lottery officials have not identified the winner of what they now say is a $533 million — revised upward from $521 million — jackpot yet, a spokeswoman said.

          But based on time and date information workers that a Lukoil gas station and convenience store received from state lottery officials, owner Ameer Krass said Monday that the winner is a regular customer. He would not say whether the buyer purchased the ticket individually or for a group.

          On Sunday, a cashier who said she had not received permission speak to reporters mentioned that employees were able to determine that the ticket buyer was male.

          Tom Webber, supervisor of investigations for NJ Lottery, said he has not taken possession of the surveillance footage but confirmed that looking through security-camera video is something the commission does.

          Lottery tickets are date and time stamped, state lottery spokeswoman MaryAnn Rivell said. But she cautioned against speculating on the person who will claim the prize.

          "Until the ticket is actually validated, they don't have a claim," she said.

          Riverdale itself, about 25 miles northwest of New York City, has fewer than 5,000 residents but is on Interstate 287, which funnels some commuters through it.

          "I know them, and they are one of our regulars, which is great," Krass said. "That's what we were hoping for. Although we have hundreds, maybe thousands of customers, we know the majority of them by face, by name."

          This has always been a lucky station," he said. "We may be a highway station but we have that in-town feel."

          Krass said he has not tried to contact the winner since the drawing and said that people around him or her should give them, "the space they deserve."

          New Jersey law requires a winner's name and town to be made public, according to the lottery. But the winner can be a person or organization, which has led to speculation that a winner can set up a trust to claim a prize.

          Even with the bump in prize money, the winner still will take home the 10th largest lottery jackpot ever, the fourth largest Mega Millions drawing and the largest winning pot in New Jersey. The person who claims the prize can choose to take all $533 million in 30 annual installments; $324 million, up from $317.2 million, as a lump sum.

          Krass received $30,000 for selling the winning ticket and was presented with a ceremonial check Monday.

          "He would not say whether the buyer purchased the ticket individually or for a group."

          Has anyone on LP been asked by a store clerk if they are purchasing tickets for a group?

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            "He would not say whether the buyer purchased the ticket individually or for a group."

            Has anyone on LP been asked by a store clerk if they are purchasing tickets for a group?

            Not I. The only question I get is if I want the Power Play/ Megaplier.

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              "He would not say whether the buyer purchased the ticket individually or for a group."

              Has anyone on LP been asked by a store clerk if they are purchasing tickets for a group?

              I think buying tickets in large quantities (say >30) are interpreted as a group. Versus buying like 5 or 10 tickets like most people.

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                I think buying tickets in large quantities (say >30) are interpreted as a group. Versus buying like 5 or 10 tickets like most people.

                 Ah yes that makes alot of sense. The stores I usually go to never seem to have a bunch of people there purchasing lotto tickets. I wish I could be in one of those "hanging around the corner lines" like you see sometimes on news channels when they start covering a large jackpot. Guess I need to find myself a lucky Virginia retailer.

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                  "He would not say whether the buyer purchased the ticket individually or for a group."

                  Has anyone on LP been asked by a store clerk if they are purchasing tickets for a group?

                  When you posted “ Has anyone on LP been asked..” Stack, l had a lol moment, why? Cause a few nights before, l was watching “ No Country for Old Men”- and the scene at the gas station where the owner asks this killer “ You get any rain up there?” And the killer replies “ Where would that way be?” & following up with “ What business is it of yours where l come from?”

                  It reminded me that you could tell the lottery clerk the same thing“ What business is it of yours, whether l am buying for a group or not?” The only thing in this scenario- you would not whip out a quarter and tell the clerk to “ CALL IT!”

                   

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                    I had always heard that the winner's name and home town was published by the NJ Lottery Commission. What I found interesting about this article was that it mentioned that the winner could be either a person or an organization. From the various stories of lotto winners from NJ I have heard over the years, an organization has never claimed the prize. Is this something new? Can one claim their lottery prize via a trust or an LLC? Would love to hear others comments.

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                      I had always heard that the winner's name and home town was published by the NJ Lottery Commission. What I found interesting about this article was that it mentioned that the winner could be either a person or an organization. From the various stories of lotto winners from NJ I have heard over the years, an organization has never claimed the prize. Is this something new? Can one claim their lottery prize via a trust or an LLC? Would love to hear others comments.

                      Yes you can claim via a LLC or trust (in Jersey) but as you mentioned I guess no one does it. Probably because they sign the ticket with there name first which would mean they have to be the person to collect the winnings and have their name shown as the winner. I'm not sure if this is a new thing or not you'd be best off looking that up.

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                        Perhaps a player 'sent in a beard'.

                        Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any. So many systems, so many theories, so few jackpot winners. 

                        Lep

                        There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                          I think buying tickets in large quantities (say >30) are interpreted as a group. Versus buying like 5 or 10 tickets like most people.

                          owner Ameer Krass said Monday that the winner is a regular customer.

                          Meaning the owner should pretty much know that players buying habits. But even had they purchased more tickets than usual, it could just reflect the size of the jackpot. I bought three more tickets than zero I usually buy simply because of the half billion jackpot.

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                            When you posted “ Has anyone on LP been asked..” Stack, l had a lol moment, why? Cause a few nights before, l was watching “ No Country for Old Men”- and the scene at the gas station where the owner asks this killer “ You get any rain up there?” And the killer replies “ Where would that way be?” & following up with “ What business is it of yours where l come from?”

                            It reminded me that you could tell the lottery clerk the same thing“ What business is it of yours, whether l am buying for a group or not?” The only thing in this scenario- you would not whip out a quarter and tell the clerk to “ CALL IT!”

                             

                            It just seemed odd to me that store clerk would know if the player was buying for a group. I was in a 30 member group and a few times I bought 150 $1 tickets, but I bought them at five different locations. If a clerk wanted to ask, 30 should have generated that question, but I was never asked.

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                              Smart move on the lottery winner and smart move on the owner of that gas station. 

                               

                              This is what the Mass. woman should have done.  Then again you can't fix stupid, so in this case good job for both. 

                               

                              As far as the lottery commission,  it's the right of the lottery winner to do what they have to do.  Maybe the lottery winner spoke to a lawyer and the lawyer is into it.

                              “Congratulations, too, to the winner of this multi-million dollar jackpot! We encourage the winner to sign the back of the ticket, make a copy of both sides and put it in a safe place,

                              Read this on NJ Lottery web site, speaking of "what the Mass woman should have done".