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Some players unhappy with UK Lotto game changes

Dec 3, 2018, 11:00 am

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Loss of Millionaire Raffle rankles Scots

The United Kingdom National Lottery is facing a boycott from outraged Scottish players who branded the Lotto game's prize draw an "absolute con" after lottery operator Camelot changed its rules.

Lotto bosses have come under fire for scrapping the Lotto Millionaire Raffle — which awarded a £1 million payout twice a week.

Since the canceled game add-on was a raffle and not a lotto draw, there was a guaranteed £1 million prize winner every drawing, rather than just a possibility of a winner.

Now, players must match five balls plus the bonus ball to win the £1 million. Matching five balls without the bonus ball will see them win £17,750, while four balls bags £140.

Rollover rules have also changed. The jackpot was capped at £22 million under the old format, at which point a rollover was allowed one more time.

But new rules mean it will only roll-over five times before it has to be won.

Furious players said the draw is "clearly a rip off", with one Scottish player saying, "We have more chance of nailing a blancmange to the ceiling [than winning]." (Editor: I'm not sure what that means, but it sounds pretty difficult.)

Responding to the backlash, Camelot chiefs say bigger cash prizes are available in the main game because of the changes, adding that the smallest win has increased from £25 to £30 if players match three balls.

In a lottery forum post titled Grabalot National Connery, fuming player Gerald wrote, "An absolute con now they have ruined the lottery added more numbers to Lotto which has decreased the chances of winning the main prize and the lower tiers are pathetic."

Gerald's anger may have him confused, since there was no increase in the number of balls in the lotto tumbler.

Ian Papap wrote, "It used to be possible to at least win SOMETHING. It has got worse over the years but now it is ridiculous.

"With a standing order [subscription], the payouts never quite kept pace with the costs but in the last 6 months I haven't won a penny.

"This is my last month of standing order as it's clearly a rip-off. Bye."

And Graham Barnett wrote, "Lotto, Euro, Scratch Cards, Online Instant Win Games, all daylight robbery. We have more chance of nailing a blancmange to the ceiling."

The National Lottery apologized to players after they hit out at the company on Twitter.

A statement read, "The recent enhancements made to Lotto mean bigger cash prizes and more Jackpot winners!

"We've listened to feedback from people (players, non-players, retailers) and have, in turn, returned Lotto back to its roots.

"We want lots of people to play a little, rather than a few playing a lot, it's our guiding principle.

"Around 60% of UK adults play our games and encouraging Responsible Play is at the heart of everything we do."

Camelot chief executive Nigel Railton said, "It was clear from the review that we needed to create a more appealing and balanced range of games that offers something for everyone."

Scottish Sun, Lottery Post Staff

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Blancmange hunh ?..... "A sweet gelatinous desert made with cornstarch and milk"..My bet is they use the real deal and not that Fufu 1% stuff

 

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    Blancmange hunh ?..... "A sweet gelatinous desert made with cornstarch and milk"..My bet is they use the real deal and not that Fufu 1% stuff

     

    They use double cream too. Can’t get that stuff here.

    Sometimes you do the right thing just because it’s right.

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      Sounds yummy!

      But quite difficult to nail one of those to the ceiling! Yes Nod

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        If something isn't broken, why try to fix it?

        People were happy with the game before they changed it. Why mess with it?

        Do you think they will revert it back to the way it was before the change?

        The Meatman 🥩🍗🍔🍖🍤🌭

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          TMM... you mean similar to the MM doubling the price to equal the PB or raising the odds ?

          Integrity: There is just no substitute.

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            If something isn't broken, why try to fix it?

            People were happy with the game before they changed it. Why mess with it?

            Do you think they will revert it back to the way it was before the change?

            It is all about the $$$ and you winning less.

            Cash5 in NC "used" to have a decent shot at a win.  They added another number and odds increased from approx 1:750k to 1:962k and then increased the staring jackpot from 50k to 100k KNOWING people win not win it as often.


            NC draw games are just rigged more than ever, all in the interest of bigger profits and smaller payouts.

            Read up on the scam that is NCEL:   Not Live Drawings!


                                                 


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              Lessons from the Boston Tea Party!

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                Complaining won't change anything.
                It's a done deal.
                Lotteries never admit they made a mistake.
                They never take a step back.
                All players can do is:
                1. Quit playing.
                2. Accept and adjust.
                Ain't life great??


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                  Complaining won't change anything.
                  It's a done deal.
                  Lotteries never admit they made a mistake.
                  They never take a step back.
                  All players can do is:
                  1. Quit playing.
                  2. Accept and adjust.
                  Ain't life great??

                  Players aren't complaining they are quiting that's what this says

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                    The fact is these outfits don’t care. They counting on players having short memory spans. Sooner, rather than later, players return. lt may take awhile, but they will be back, hoping to win.

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                      The fact is these outfits don’t care. They counting on players having short memory spans. Sooner, rather than later, players return. lt may take awhile, but they will be back, hoping to win.

                      If the regulars stop playing then they are in trouble otherwise NOT...Regualrs are the ones these lotteries are surviving on

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                        These changes don't sound that bad. I wish our lotteries did roll-downs after a certain number of roll-overs.

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                          "We've listened to feedback from people (players, non-players, retailers) and have, in turn, returned Lotto back to its roots.

                          Why in the world would they listen to people that don't play the lottery?  What?

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                            "We've listened to feedback from people (players, non-players, retailers) and have, in turn, returned Lotto back to its roots.

                            Why in the world would they listen to people that don't play the lottery?  What?

                            They probably asked them what is needed to get them to play.