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Woman steals credit cards, buys winning lottery ticket, gets arrested

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I'm surprised that Canadians can use credit cards to purchase lottery tickets. In Australia, you can't. 

 

However, it is great that she was caught. I hope the card owner gets the lottrrl prize.

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    I'm surprised that Canadians can use credit cards to purchase lottery tickets. In Australia, you can't. 

     

    However, it is great that she was caught. I hope the card owner gets the lottrrl prize.

    There is a story of a Canadian woman who lost her winning ticket worth $50 million CAD. She did not know about this. The investigators tracked her down using her credit card information. She had used her card to buy the ticket plus other items and she was on the security camera.        She got her money after being interviewed and answering questions. Party

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      There is a story of a Canadian woman who lost her winning ticket worth $50 million CAD. She did not know about this. The investigators tracked her down using her credit card information. She had used her card to buy the ticket plus other items and she was on the security camera.        She got her money after being interviewed and answering questions. Party

      Where can l read of this Canadian woman losing a $50million ticket music? I promise not to get upset, l can handle the truth.

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        If the ticket had been bought with cash that was stolen there might be a reasonable argument that the ticket rightfully belongs to the person who rightfully owned the money. Since it was bought using a stolen credit card there's probably only one sensible choice for who is entitled to the winnings, assuming the lottery pays the prize. When a credit card is used fraudulently it's the credit card company that pays the merchant, not the card holder or the person who "bought" the merchandise. Assuming the credit card company paid for the ticket then they should be considered the the owner of the ticket.

        Of course the lottery may claim that the ticket was effectively stolen and therefore invalid, but the argument that the ticket was stolen isn't a very good one. An argument that the cops should have any claim on the money is probably BS for the same reason. They may be able to claim stolen property when the rightful owner can't be located, but if the merchant was paid by the credit card company the ticket was paid for and isn't stolen.

        It also says on the back of any lottery ticket. "This ticket is a bearer instrument. Anyone possessing a winning ticket may claim a prize.

        The credit card co. wouldn't get it because they don't possess it. They only provided the funds to purchase it. Kind of like, if you borrowed $20 from someone to put gas in your car, would that person own the gas? Would they siphon your tank if you didn't pay them back? Probably not, but they wouldn't loan you anything the next time you asked.

        Rightly or not, the person (thief) who possesses it owns it. At least going by what it says on the ticket. Now karma being what it is, they might have to spend all the money on legal fees, and not end up with anything. lol

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          It also says on the back of any lottery ticket. "This ticket is a bearer instrument. Anyone possessing a winning ticket may claim a prize.

          The credit card co. wouldn't get it because they don't possess it. They only provided the funds to purchase it. Kind of like, if you borrowed $20 from someone to put gas in your car, would that person own the gas? Would they siphon your tank if you didn't pay them back? Probably not, but they wouldn't loan you anything the next time you asked.

          Rightly or not, the person (thief) who possesses it owns it. At least going by what it says on the ticket. Now karma being what it is, they might have to spend all the money on legal fees, and not end up with anything. lol

          That's some heady explaining you got going there G. All l know is that the $50K cannot disappear in the ether. Someone will end up with that money.

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            Where can l read of this Canadian woman losing a $50million ticket music? I promise not to get upset, l can handle the truth.

            Try Google and YouTube.  Lottery Post has it at, Lottery Post.com/news/269314

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              Lottery tracks down $50 million winner who lost ticket

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                She never found the ticket. They paid her based on the surveillance tape and credit card info.

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                  In N.C. you can only purchase lottery using a card as debit not credit so the woman would have had to know the pin number in order to use the card.

                  Taking it one drawing at a time.

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                    Thanks Tmm. I did not recall this piece at all. The good thing about it was reading  " Ridge's " responses.

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                      That's some heady explaining you got going there G. All l know is that the $50K cannot disappear in the ether. Someone will end up with that money.

                      I'm not a lawyer, but I did sleep at a Holiday Inn last night.  Green laugh

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                        In N.C. you can only purchase lottery using a card as debit not credit so the woman would have had to know the pin number in order to use the card.

                        Yea, thats true red.

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                        I'm happy N.C. my state (after i left cali many years ago)

                        can utilize a debit visa/mastercard to play lottery games!

                        i do not ... prefer cash but i am loving the fact they allow it here, for

                        those who prefer that. I usually use good ole' cash.Smiley

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                          I played front pair 50 cents in Illinois lottery won only 25.00 dollars waste of money

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                            It also says on the back of any lottery ticket. "This ticket is a bearer instrument. Anyone possessing a winning ticket may claim a prize.

                            The credit card co. wouldn't get it because they don't possess it. They only provided the funds to purchase it. Kind of like, if you borrowed $20 from someone to put gas in your car, would that person own the gas? Would they siphon your tank if you didn't pay them back? Probably not, but they wouldn't loan you anything the next time you asked.

                            Rightly or not, the person (thief) who possesses it owns it. At least going by what it says on the ticket. Now karma being what it is, they might have to spend all the money on legal fees, and not end up with anything. lol

                            "Rightly or not, the person (thief) who possesses it owns it. "

                            I've seen a lot of stupid stuff here, but that's one of the stupidest things I've seen.

                            We go over this regularly. A bearer instrument is simply something that isn't registered to the owner, as opposed to registered instruments like stocks. Cash is a bearer instrument, but if you drop $100 while  getting money out of your wallet at a store and I pick it up I'm guessing you'll think it's still your money. Proving who owns a bearer instrument can sometimes be difficult, but  only an idiot thinks that you gain lawful ownership of anything simply by stealing it.

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                              "Rightly or not, the person (thief) who possesses it owns it. "

                              I've seen a lot of stupid stuff here, but that's one of the stupidest things I've seen.

                              We go over this regularly. A bearer instrument is simply something that isn't registered to the owner, as opposed to registered instruments like stocks. Cash is a bearer instrument, but if you drop $100 while  getting money out of your wallet at a store and I pick it up I'm guessing you'll think it's still your money. Proving who owns a bearer instrument can sometimes be difficult, but  only an idiot thinks that you gain lawful ownership of anything simply by stealing it.

                              Wow, now that was a burst of clarity. Another way of putting it would be, if you stole my vehicle out of my driveway, it does not belong to you.Approve..or does it? 

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