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Posted: November 26, 2004, 7:43 pm - IP Logged

most state lotteries are safe and secure but if you had to choose one state thats most likelt rigged what would it be?

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    Posted: November 26, 2004, 8:29 pm - IP Logged

    SC!!!!!!!!!!!!

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      Posted: November 26, 2004, 8:33 pm - IP Logged

      i don't know much about their lottery but how do you feel SC is rigged?

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        Posted: November 26, 2004, 8:49 pm - IP Logged

        I am a SC player and I agree.  sclotto has hit the nail on the head because some of the best predictors can not break the SC bank with several sure enough numbers.  Look back just on the history for the month of November and see how many repeats there have been.  This is being done to keep either 769 or the triples from coming.  A quad has never come to SC.

        Check the history and you will see why we feel this way.  It makes you go huh.

         

        djj in sc

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          Posted: November 26, 2004, 9:46 pm - IP Logged

          Any state that uses computers to draw numbers.

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            Posted: November 26, 2004, 9:59 pm - IP Logged

            thats about the best answer i could think of,it would be nice to make all those computerized lotteries go back to the ball drawings.

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              Posted: November 26, 2004, 11:58 pm - IP Logged

              there are even a few ball drawings that may be rigged. CA uses a bal machine to draw the winning super lotto plus numbers, but with CA's size and poplation, they will have runs in which they di not produce a jackpot winner. what i am assuming is that one of two things is happening. 1. they are rigging the drawing so that nobody wins, and the jackpot goes up, causing sales to go up. 2. they are selling a jackpot winning ticket, but not reporting it, and insteaed reporting that the jackpot rolled over. this is not related to CA, but remember when the guy from TN alleged that he had a jackpot-winning powerball ticket. perhaps he did, and TN did not report it in to help the jackpot roll over to generate more sales.

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                Posted: November 27, 2004, 2:43 am - IP Logged

                i have posted my results tickets scan in a yahoo group i made.

                and ,as for a true un rigged lottery, this may sound "retarded", but, the only way i see a true drawing is if you set and infant in diapers in a pile of lotto balls or lotto paper slips with numbers, and we call the numbers that infant picks up. this would not be rigged, and, if it were televised live, and the people which went to view, actually were allowed to get "close" enough to the situation .

                since so much money is riding on jackpots and so many people are seriously wanting to win...........youd think it would be an important enough thing to have it live on air and not allow the balls to disappear before they reappear.

                anyhows, that said,..what about the pretaped versions?....how early in advance did the "media" get the winning numbers to show on tv?

                early enough to fiddle with?hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

                anywayz, this said,.....

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                  Posted: November 28, 2004, 6:40 pm - IP Logged

                  enterceptorr you just said the only way to have a fair drawing is to put an infant in diapers and have it pick the balls due to a child being unbiased and at a stage of development where its young mind is uncorrupted


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                    Posted: November 29, 2004, 6:26 am - IP Logged

                    this is true

                    but it will never happen

                    if an infant chose the numbers .......................while sitting in a pile of balls in diapers,...................i would take my paycheck and hock my car and sell and borrow and buy 6 to 10 thousand tickets each day because i know then that i would actually have a chance at winning the money back and then some. seriously. i would do it

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                      Posted: November 29, 2004, 3:47 pm - IP Logged
                      Quote: Originally posted by enterceptorr on November 27, 2004



                      i have posted my results tickets scan in a yahoo group i made.

                      and ,as for a true un rigged lottery, this may sound "retarded", but, the only way i see a true drawing is if you set and infant in diapers in a pile of lotto balls or lotto paper slips with numbers, and we call the numbers that infant picks up. this would not be rigged, and, if it were televised live, and the people which went to view, actually were allowed to get "close" enough to the situation .

                      since so much money is riding on jackpots and so many people are seriously wanting to win...........youd think it would be an important enough thing to have it live on air and not allow the balls to disappear before they reappear.

                      anyhows, that said,..what about the pretaped versions?....how early in advance did the "media" get the winning numbers to show on tv?

                      early enough to fiddle with?hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

                      anywayz, this said,.....





                      That idea actually gives "retarted" a bad name.

                      It was funny enough as is it, but that fact that you're serious makes it twice as funny!


                       

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                        Posted: November 29, 2004, 4:09 pm - IP Logged
                        The Texas Lottery cordially invites you to attend a live drawing, held every day except Sunday. All on-line drawings are open to the public. You can view drawings from the public sidewalk through our Sixth Street window.




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                          Posted: November 29, 2004, 4:13 pm - IP Logged

                          read this balls and the numbers.

                          http://lottotutor.com/tips/balls.html

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                            Posted: November 29, 2004, 4:23 pm - IP Logged

                            lol,infants would probably scream and cry during the drawing.....

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                              Posted: November 29, 2004, 7:01 pm - IP Logged

                              I can see one glaring flaw with the "baby in diapers" drawing method:

                              How many people would start crying when the baby's parents held the only winning ticket?

                              This is how the Hoosier Lottery was able to get away with manipulating their games for so many years; people in any state will complain that their lottery is rigged, but they won't go to the trouble of finding proof.

                              Personally, I don't know of any other state lottery that practices deception on the same scale as Indiana, because I haven't investigated them. However, one of the most important pieces of evidence I have consists of South Carolina's daily game payouts, which are at least twenty times those of Indiana. The interesting thing is that South Carolina has only 15% of Indiana's population, and yet they pay out twenty times more per day, on average. Delaware, too, has higher payouts than we do. In fact, Indiana, despite their claims to the contrary, has the lowest daily game payouts in the country (we also lead the nation in personal bankruptcies and foreclosures). Another important item I have is a copy of the minutes from the SCEL board meeting of January 7, 2003. This document shows that the SC lottery officially adopted a $3.5M liability limit for their Pick-3 game.

                              Indiana has no published liability limits. Instead, they elect to track player selections on a central computer, so they know which numbers have been played and how much has been bet on each of those numbers, and they have access to this information before the drawing takes place. In addition, they don't air the videotaped drawing (on a local station) until 42 minutes after the drawing takes place. This effectively gives them an hour and 12 minutes to find out which number would minimize their payouts, since they cut off ticket sales a half-hour before the drawing.

                              We know our liability limit for our Pick-3 game is $270,000.00. We know this is true because a friend of mine got the "Selection Refused" message when she tried to buy a $10.00 ticket for "333" on July first of last year. 333 came up in the midday drawing that day, and there were 540 winners for a total payout of $270k.

                              I'll say it again: If you suspect shenanigans within your state lottery, LOOK INTO IT!!! Find some information, some evidence to back up your allegations. Go speak with your lottery officials. They're nothing to worry about, believe me, so you shouldn't be afraid to confront them with your suspicions. Go to your local library and make copies of your state gaming laws, and then read them. If you don't understand what you're reading, call your local Legal Services chapter, or your state bar association and have them explain it to you. It's nothing to be ashamed of; lawyers write that way on purpose, so you'll need them to decipher their gobbledegook. Find out who prints your scratch-off tickets and examine them with the same microscope. If Scientific Games manufactures your scratch-off tickets, odds are better than even that they also furnish your online terminals. This is important because your quick-picks are generated at the terminal, not at headquarters (I wouldn't have known this if I hadn't looked into it).

                              The South Carolina Educational Lottery is only a couple of years old, so it's NOT unusual that quads haven't hit there yet. Ten thousand days is about 27.4 years, so you might be there a while waiting for your particular number to hit.  

                              Every day when I log on to LotteryPost, it seems I see yet another thread on rigged lotteries. Most of the time it's somebody spewing conspiracy theories or ranting that their state lottery must be rigged because he missed the number by one digit two days in a row, or that doubles came up in five consecutive drawings, or some such nonsense. Let's not forget the beating I took here when I first began posting the information I had collected. With the notable exceptions of Todd-our-God and Pick4_Master, no one here believed me, and most were very generous with their criticisms and ridicule. It's a price I was willing and happy to pay, however, because I knew that the evidence I had was solid, verifiable and was not based on speculation.

                              I don't mean to say, "I told you so" (but I did); I'm only trying to demonstrate that there is more to proving your state lottery is crooked than proclaiming your suspicions on the best lottery forum on the web. That alone does not make it so; you need evidence. Evidence is not necessarily hard proof. It can be something as menial as payouts which suddenly drop in value. It's something, anything, which supports your allegations. Your suspicions may very well be valid, but the simple fact of the matter is that you won't know for certain unless you put a little effort into some fact-finding.

                              Since it seems that I'm the only one here with experience in this area (except LosingJeff, of course), I hereby offer my services to any member who wants to check out their own lottery. I won't spend any money, I won't make phone calls for you, but I will steer you in the right direction; I'll tell you what to look for and where to find it. I'll also send you copies of some of the documents I've obtained in my own investigation (okay, okay; so I'll spend a couple bucks), which are not exclusive to the Hoosier Lottery. I've spent almost 18 months on my little quest, and the information I can give you will save you a considerable amount of time. 

                              Well, I've done it again. This was going to be a short post but, as usual, I went off on a tangent and penned another tome. Again, I hope you will all accept this in the spirit in which it's intended, and I don't mean to be critical of those who suspect their state lottery might not be on the up-and-up. Quite the opposite, in fact; I want to encourage you to stop ranting and do something about it.

                              If you decide to investigate your lottery, keep in mind that only one of two possible outcomes can be realized. Either you'll find the proof you're looking for, or you won't. If you don't find anything, then there's nothing to find, and you can play with confidence. Then, you'll be able to alleviate the fears of your fellow state residents or members, some of whom might have their own suspicions, or you'll be able to recruit them to your cause.

                              Best of luck to all of you... 

                              Come, Pinky; we must prepare for tomorrow night...

                              Jim