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Posted: December 11, 2004, 2:22 pm - IP Logged

Replace Unlucky for Life with a 6/59, two plays for $1, but pay 53% (same as Match-6). Jackpots may start lower than NY Lotto, and increase slower, but, the lower tier prizes ($3 for matching three numbers, occasionally $100 for matching 4/6 and $5000 for 5/6) would be shockingly higher than the current NY 6/59, which of course pays out ONLY 38%-40%.

The bordering Connecticut and Massachusetts pick-5s are exactly alike except for the four-number prizes, the frequency for drawings, and the CT Kicker option.

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    Posted: December 11, 2004, 2:45 pm - IP Logged

    CO,

    Those are some good ideas, but I'd like to expand on them:


    • 2 plays for a dollar ONLY IF the player can pick their own numbers for both plays.  (PA has a nasty habit of throwing quick picks in for second and third plays.)

    • The 6/59-2 plays is identical to NY Lotto, so I would consider 6/53-1 play.

    • They would never go for it, but I would make all the lower-tier prizes fixed amounts, rather than pari-mutuel.

    On the last point, lotteries often do pari-mutuel payouts because it's easier for them, but if the PA Lottery wants to prove that they're listening to the players, then they will make it better for the players.  Lotteries get scared with fixed payouts because they're worried that when popular numbers are drawn that they will have a spike of payouts.  However, that is balanced by spikes of non-popular numbers being drawn on other days.

     

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      Posted: December 11, 2004, 2:58 pm - IP Logged

      Todd:

      I _purposely_ made my proposal identical to NY Lotto. And, yes, you'd be able to choose all your numbers if you wish.


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        Posted: December 28, 2004, 3:42 pm - IP Logged

        Anybody else want to comment?

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          Lotteries that pay out para-mutual on most of their games just aren't doing a good job to their players.  I mean what is up with California paying para-mutual for their Daily 3 game?  That is just ridiculous.  My great state of Michigan doesn't not offer any games that are para-mutual, especially no online games.  Online games are not meant to be that.  The only way we get a para-mutual drawing is if two or more people hit a jackpot in a game or there is a WinFall in that game.  Para-mutual prizes are the chickens way out.  So a lottery might lose on one in a 1000 drawings.  Big deal.  I can gaurantee you they got it covered.  Like on tax day April 15 of this year 1010 came up in the Daily 4 Evening in Michigan.  They paid out almost 15 million I believe it was.  A 2600% payout compared to sales.  Para-mutual prizes are an injustice to the players.

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            Posted: December 28, 2004, 11:52 pm - IP Logged

            I like pari-mutuel. It adds another layer of excitement when you win. Now you can dream and speculate on how much you won. And sometimes pari-mutuel systems can result in bugger payouts. Just look at NJ's Pick 4. It rarely pays under $5,000 on a $1 play (usually only happens with popular combos like quads), but it sometimes pays over $8,000 on a $1 play if the combo is obscure enough.

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              Posted: December 29, 2004, 12:22 am - IP Logged

              BTW, those are all great ideas.

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                Posted: December 31, 2004, 9:23 am - IP Logged

                Pari-mutuel is like a double-edged sword.


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                  Posted: January 12, 2005, 1:13 pm - IP Logged

                  I would like to see the proposed Michigan-Ohio game to also be available in PA.


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                    Posted: January 19, 2005, 1:37 pm - IP Logged

                    And if PA joins, for NY to be interested.


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                      Posted: January 25, 2005, 9:42 am - IP Logged

                      Let's concentrate on PA however.

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                        Posted: January 26, 2005, 10:36 pm - IP Logged

                        PA should get rid of MATCH 6 because 2/3 of it is forced quick pick and the jackpots are pathetic. LuckyForLife is ok just increase it to 1000/week and as weekly checks, not yearly. Or how about "1000/week tax-free" because otherwise it's really around 600 - not enough to retire on.

                        ONE REALLY ANNOYING THING on PA slips, you can't void off a botched play, you have to redo the whole thing! It's great when you can play 1 and then save the slip to use again for board 2 etc.

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                          Quote: Originally posted by LckyLary on January 26, 2005

                          PA should get rid of MATCH 6 because 2/3 of it is forced quick pick and the jackpots are pathetic. LuckyForLife is ok just increase it to 1000/week and as weekly checks, not yearly. Or how about "1000/week tax-free" because otherwise it's really around 600 - not enough to retire on.

                          ONE REALLY ANNOYING THING on PA slips, you can't void off a botched play, you have to redo the whole thing! It's great when you can play 1 and then save the slip to use again for board 2 etc.








                          Ditch Match 6?! Blasphemy!

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                            Posted: January 27, 2005, 9:35 am - IP Logged

                            Get rid of Unlucky for Life!

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                              Posted: January 27, 2005, 9:54 am - IP Logged

                              Cash those are great Ideas.

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