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How far back is enough history?

Full History [ 20 ]  [26.67%]
Last 100 draws [ 9 ]  [12.00%]
Last 50 draws [ 8 ]  [10.67%]
Last 25 draws [ 7 ]  [9.33%]
Last 10 draws [ 17 ]  [22.67%]
last 3 draws [ 3 ]  [4.00%]
last draw only [ 3 ]  [4.00%]
Other (please post number) [ 8 ]  [10.67%]
Total Valid Votes [ 75 ]  
Discarded Votes [ 49 ]  
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Posted: December 12, 2004, 9:20 pm - IP Logged

It's a very relative thing, relative to the particular game played, the ammount of numbers that you want to get right if possible, the number of lines played and the winning system(s) used, can go from 1 last draw on down, or even no draws at all, just on general statistics for that particular game and or for jackpot games in general or for games of chance or random games in general.

What do I use and for which game(s)?

I don't play jackpot games yet, but sooner or later I might, maybe some-time during 2005.

I do already have a few ideas.

Good luck to you all.

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    Posted: December 12, 2004, 9:25 pm - IP Logged

    I like this poll. One Drawing, Only

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      Posted: December 12, 2004, 9:30 pm - IP Logged

      Yea i wonder how many people play the same numbers that hit in mega and powerball last week. Then fill a ticket out and play them for the next draw hoping the same numbers might hit.


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        Posted: December 12, 2004, 10:33 pm - IP Logged

        The last 12 winning sets for either midday or evening game in the Pick 3 Ohio has the winning sets. The exception is one game per week switches days which means that we have to reset our matrix setup.

        Teufellj...

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          Every combination has a chance, and the lottery is random EVERY time. Most people who win it either play the same numbers every time (like birthdays) or they win on a quick pick. I have played powerball for years and I looked at the frequently asked questions section of the MUSL website, and the MUSL uses DIFFERENT ball sets for the balls drawn. Now, this would be different, COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, if there was only ONE ball set involved and if you only had to get the white balls right (like in the Florida lottery). But not only do they rotate among different ballsets (which means that the same ballset is NOT even used twice in a row), but unless you play tickets for EACH of the 42 red powerballs you might get the red powerball wrong anyway! Spending all that time trying to predict numbers will not make you any better off than someone who spends the same amount of money buying quick picks. It is TOTALLY random !!!! True, your strategy might pick a winning combination, but you are no better off in trying to win this than your average joe who puts the same amount of money on quick picks.

          Smart lottery winners form trust to claim their winnings.  They send an attorney to the lottery headquarters to claim the prize in trust, so that ONLY the name of the trust is revealed.  And they tell NO ONE, especially relatives.

          If you ever win a lottery and you are single, the only person you should ever marry is someone who was truly in love with you BEFORE you won the jackpot!

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            Posted: December 13, 2004, 8:07 am - IP Logged

            I like keeping a history of the numbers drawn  all the way to game one to the present but go back about the last 12 draws  when actually making my picks. Using whats hot and whats not...and whats due.

                                                                                                               

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              The amount of history you use depends on what your doing. If your looking at how many games back the numbers picked are over several 5/39 games then set a tracking system.






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              049.9120.250012.412.4
              125.620.85.760.5010.523
              212.320.612.33.5109.7332.7
              36.0217.314.86.770.759.1341.8
              42.7610.3136.772.517.0748.9
              51.256.77127.522.516.0254.9
              61.755.519.278.273.525.6760.6
              70.53.019.029.274.525.2765.8
              801.256.277.773.273.7169.6
              9016.278.024.273.9173.5
              1000.54.017.526.033.6177.1
              1100.52.268.777.543.8180.9
              1200.52.764.512.512.0682.9
              13000.54.516.032.2185.2
              14000.255.266.032.3187.5
              150002.264.271.388.8
              16000.752.514.271.590.3
              170002.264.021.2591.5
              18000.251.255.781.4593
              19000.251.253.020.993.9
              200000.753.270.894.7
              210000.253.520.7595.4
              2200004.270.8596.3
              2300001.760.3596.6
              2400002.260.4597.1
              2500002.510.597.6
              260000.251.260.397.9
              2700001.010.298.1
              2800001.760.3598.4
              2900000.750.1598.6
              3000000.250.0598.6
              3100000.250.0598.7
              320000.2500.0598.7
              3300000.750.1598.9
              3400000.50.199
              3500000.750.1599.1
              3600000.50.199.2
              3700000.750.1599.4
              3800001.260.2599.6
              3900000.250.0599.7
              4000000.750.1599.8
              4100000.250.0599.9
              4200000.250.0599.9
              4300000099.9
              4400000099.9
              4500000099.9
              4600000099.9
              4700000.250.05100
              48000000100
              49000000100
              50000000100



              Looking at the above, 90.3% of the numbers picked will occur within the 16 games. I'll let the statistics people catch up with their formulas to come up with a similar solution. 

              If your using history to measure occurences, the history spread(s), measurement, and analysis is totally different.

              You are a slave to the choices you have made.  jk

              Even a blind squirrel will occasioanlly find an acorn.

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                hypersoniq,

                It's good to see you back on the boards.

                The amount of draw history I use varies greatly from game to game and draw to draw. It depends on the matrix of the game, the particular method I'm using to predict any given draw, and the way the numbers may have fallen in recent draws.

                I can understand your frustration with spending a lot of time on predictions, but for me, generating my number selections is something that I enjoy doing. If I didn't enjoy doing it, I'd probably just play Quick Picks all the time. Most of us probably go to work every day and toil for far less than we could ever possibly win by hitting a big jackpot. I just figure that when I hit the big one, I'll be collecting my salary for the best paying job I've ever had...lol.

                Seriously, I don't ever allow myself to get so wrapped up in lottery prediction and play that it ceases to be fun for me. Just remember that you always have the freedom to play any numbers in any way that you like. You don't have to use any system or any history at all if you find it bothersome. Just enjoy the game in whatever way you choose to play and hope for the best.

                Good luck,

                aye'

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                  Quote: Originally posted by ayenowitall on December 15, 2004


                  I don't ever allow myself to get so wrapped up in lottery prediction and play that it ceases to be fun for me. Just remember that you always have the freedom to play any numbers in any way that you like. You don't have to use any system or any history at all if you find it bothersome. Just enjoy the game in whatever way you choose to play and hope for the best.



                  VERY well said.
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                    Posted: December 15, 2004, 7:57 pm - IP Logged

                    I like to use the history to see what has followed the number in the past.

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                            I seem to have read that a poster on LP claimed he eliminated the numbers from the last draw

                          and then made his selection from the remaining numbers thereby thinking he changed the odds

                          significantly. It so, why not eliminate the last two or three draws and play the rest? Has anybody

                          looked at this idea and done a statistical analysis by computer simulation?

                          Bertil

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                        Quote: Originally posted by Bertil on December 17, 2004



                        I seem to have read that a poster on LP claimed he eliminated the numbers from the last draw and then made his selection from the remaining numbers thereby thinking he changed the odds significantly....... Has anybody looked at this idea and done a statistical analysis by computer simulation?     





                        I didn't do a computer simulation, but I looked at past drawings of several lotteries that I play including MM, PB, OH649 plus and Buckeye5 and found it varied with the size of the number pool.  For example in the last 2000 drawings of the Buckeye5 the previous drawing had:

                        0 numbers 914 times
                        1 number 814 times
                        2 numbers 250 times
                        3 numbers 20 times
                        4 numbers 2 times
                        5 numbers 0 times
                        so ~50% of the time, you could have effectively reduced your number pool from 37 to 32 by eliminating the 5 numbers of the previous drawing.

                        RJOh 

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                          Quote: Originally posted by Bertil on December 17, 2004

                                I seem to have read that a poster on LP claimed he eliminated the numbers from the last draw

                               and then made his selection from the remaining numbers thereby thinking he changed the odds

                               significantly. It so, why not eliminate the last two or three draws and play the rest? Has anybody

                               looked at this idea and done a statistical analysis by computer simulation?

                               Bertil








                          Bertil,



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                            I would say that full history is the only way to go.  This lottery thing started somewhere.  The key is in the beginning.  The only way to chart what's really happening is to start at the beginning.  It wouldn't make sense at all to jump right in in the beginning.  Important keys would HAVE to be lost if you jumped in, let's say, at the 2002 games.  At least, that's my opinion. 

                             

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                              lucky picks

                              481, 447, 374,477, especially 437,410

                              if you want to try a good four ball buy 0118,1180, 0181

                              good luck on your