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would you still play if your state switched from balls to computers

yes

[ 14 ]

[ 29.2% ]

[ 22 ]

[ 45.8% ]

maybe

[ 12 ]

[ 25.0% ]

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LOTTOMIKE

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Mar 12, 2005, 2:58 pm

i don't see how someone could like computers better than ball drawings.......
Rip Snorter

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Mar 12, 2005, 3:38 pm

I think I'd have to give up playing the lottery if the numbers were generated by computer. I'm the kind of person who doesn't trust his own computer not to cheat at Hearts. I think it would be impossible to put in safeguards to keep the State, hackers, employees of the lottery, from jimmying the results. In this world where Top Secret national defense systems can be hacked by a 14 year old, how can we possibly trust the security of a lottery computer? Not to mention the folks on the 'legit' management side and their motives and agenda.
Besides, while they have a surprisingly difficult time generating anything but 'artificial' random numbers by computer, if they succeeded in making it more random than the balls it would be enough to make it not worth trying to figure it out.
Jack
LOTTOMIKE

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Mar 13, 2005, 5:58 pm

computers can be manipulated,at least ball drawings are live and exciting....i agree rip snorter they can be hacked
RJOh

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Mar 13, 2005, 7:02 pm

On the lottoreport website there was a link to a NPR broadcast in which a member of the Texas lottery commission admitted a computer RNG programmed to pick 4 more often than 3 or 2 was used to pick their MM multiplier to encourage players to use the MM multiplier option which generated more money for the State of Texas. A local professor argued that since the #2 had not been picked in over 3 month, the program was not a RNG but a program designed to pick numbers to increase lottery sales. One might argue if a computer was used to pick all the numbers, its mission would remain the same. Right now when jackpots are low, about 30% of the possible combinations are sold, but the State would like for the jackpot to climb until 80% or more of the possible combinations are selling which makes money for the State and they might be temped to program the computer to pick numbers from the combinations not played until more the 80% of them are selling. As far as the States are concerned the outcome is random, if they don't know the exact numbers the computer will pick even if its program is designed to pick only combinations within certain parameters base on the ticket sales which in my opinion is not a truly random out come. It would make the Jackpot games like the scratch off ticket games where a fixed amount of tickets are sold per jackpot won.
RJOh

* you don't need to buy every combination, just the winning ones *
LOTTOMIKE

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Mar 17, 2005, 4:26 pm

lets just hope the multistate games don't end up computerized?
Rip Snorter

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Mar 17, 2005, 5:50 pm

I'd say PB might actually be in danger of something of that sort. Someone's taking the jackpots fairly consistently for some time before they get much beyond 18 million, usually around 10. If the motivation for computerizing is to cut the early jackpots to let the prizes grow and generate the big bucks for the sponsors, they have the cause on PB right now.
But if they decide to do it, nothing's likely to stop it happening.
Jack
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Mar 17, 2005, 6:07 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Rip Snorter on March 17, 2005

I'd say PB might actually be in danger of something of that sort. Someone's taking the jackpots fairly consistently for some time before they get much beyond 18 million, usually around 10. If the motivation for computerizing is to cut the early jackpots to let the prizes grow and generate the big bucks for the sponsors, they have the cause on PB right now.

But if they decide to do it, nothing's likely to stop it happening.

Jack

Then the jackpots would grow really slow.

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Rip Snorter

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Mar 17, 2005, 6:13 pm

Then the jackpots would grow really slow
I'd say those guys have a football field of cubicles full of MBAs studying it all, deciding which way gives them the biggest bang for the buck. Likely as not they'll pick anything they do based on that, despite whatever we might think the results will be. They've got the money to hire the hotshots who have the tools to know the bean counting. You and I are just guessers.
Jack
LOTTOMIKE

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Mar 19, 2005, 5:50 am

lets just hope they don't make it too hard....its too easy right now,so they need to make it where its not to hard to hit a jackpot but not to easy,i have confidence they'll do it right......
LOTTOMIKE

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Mar 19, 2005, 6:54 pm

also in a computerized state you never know the numbers might be manipulated in the states favor.....
LOTTOMIKE

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Mar 25, 2005, 3:34 pm

ball drawings are also more exciting and are completely fair......
LOTTOMIKE

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Mar 26, 2005, 4:59 pm

i am curious....which states consistently pay more...computerized states or ball states.....compare
LOTTOMIKE

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Mar 28, 2005, 6:44 am

looks like most people would not play if they changed from balls to computers.....
LOTTOMIKE

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Mar 29, 2005, 4:30 pm

anybody heard anything else on texas going computerized?
CASH Only

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Mar 30, 2005, 12:06 pm

I hope not.

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