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What do you use to pick your numbers?

Retail Software? [ 8 ]  [14.55%]
Your Own Program? [ 8 ]  [14.55%]
Spread Sheet (Excel)? [ 7 ]  [12.73%]
Database (Access)? [ 2 ]  [3.64%]
Pencil and Paper? [ 20 ]  [36.36%]
Quick Pick? [ 5 ]  [9.09%]
Other? [ 5 ]  [9.09%]
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If you use a combination of the above, select what you feel is the most important or beneficial.

Any comments about what you feel is the best tool or combination of tools would be appreciated.

You are a slave to the choices you have made.  jk

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    I used to use only Excel, via formulae and macros.

    But in the last 6 weeks since I started filtering. I also use Nick Koutras' LottoStatisticsXL <excellent program, especially the trivia report>. In addition I've been forced to use the freebie number generators, not for lotto analysis but wheel generation only. I don't know enough code to do my own filtering.

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      Posted: April 29, 2005, 9:37 am - IP Logged

      At the moment I'm using spreadsheets.



      The idea of implementing a self built database (Access or DataEase) to do the job sounds good.

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        Actually I do have code for standard filtering, but it would take me months to learn how to write code for sophisticated filtering demands.

        My vote went to Spread Sheet (Excel).                    Usage= 90% Excel 10&% freeware.


        NB. If I hadn't developed my Excel/VBA skills mainly with the support of the VB Lottery Gurus and the VB/Excel support community. I would have no choice, but to use lottery software. Even when I was only into predicting.
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          Posted: April 30, 2005, 2:19 am - IP Logged

          I would suggest you pay a visit to the Lottery Software Directory here
          http://www.lotto-logix.com/lottosoft.html

          and download the free trial versions of Lotto Architect, Lotto Creo, Lotto Hat and see if Lotwin still has a lite or free older version. They have one that's free if you allow ads to be downloaded, I'd kinda shy away from that version.  Anyway, you should get a good idea what these programs can and can't do and use the ideas to devise your own filter collection or considering buying one if it would be really useful. 

          There is a difference between building a wheel around filters and starting with a wheel and removing lines that don't pass the filters.  Once you remove a single line from a wheel you can be pulling as much as twenty percent out of the coverage, or less then 1%, the trouble is you don't know which it was. 

          When you build around filters you have a conditional guarantee. If you guess the filters correctly you can have a 100% chance of winning the guaranteed prize.  BobP

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            i always pick my own numbers and with pen and paper......

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              Posted: April 30, 2005, 2:38 am - IP Logged

              Versabet beens good to me......Damn just missed LOTTOMIKE!

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                Quote: Originally posted by Mjure on April 30, 2005


                Versabet beens good to me......Damn just missed LOTTOMIKE!



                thanks,its always good to be missed
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                  Posted: April 30, 2005, 9:13 am - IP Logged

                  I like using my own programs in conjunction with excel. You can try and test your ideas in a matter of minutes. If you want to back test your ideas or compare data in a way that is different than is generally available, it's all possble in a relatively quick manner. With the availability of Basic programs at a very reasonable price, it gives you flexibility to create the systems you want inexpensively.

                  I was really hoping that I would see more people that do programming so I could suggest to Todd that it deserved it's own topic. It would have been a great resource for developing new systems.

                  You are a slave to the choices you have made.  jk

                  Even a blind squirrel will occasioanlly find an acorn.

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                    Posted: April 30, 2005, 11:15 am - IP Logged

                    I do think that a lottery programming forum would be good, but only if as you say there are enough people willing to use it.

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                      i tried the quick pick thing for a while then i realized i would rather be picking my own numbers if i'm gonna be spending on the lottery.....

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                        I use excel 99% of the time... I can't really find anything in Access that makes it useful that can't be done in excel (sometimes with VBA macros). Mostly I like seeing everything on one sheet, this makes conditional formatting to check backtest results a snap. I have written a few VB programs, mostly for RNG, but never use them anymore.

                        There are 2 keys to any system (especially programming)

                        1. knowing what questions to ask

                        2. Interpreting the results

                        I'm still working on #1... :-(

                        I can say that I have never spent a dime on lottery software and never will... When I lose I like only having myself to blame ;-)

                        Playing more than one ticket per game is betting against yourself.

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                          Quote: Originally posted by BobP on April 30, 2005

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                          There is a difference between building a wheel around filters and starting with a wheel and removing lines that don't pass the filters. Once you remove a single line from a wheel you can be pulling as much as twenty percent out of the coverage, or less then 1%, the trouble is you don't know which it was.



                          When you build around filters you have a conditional guarantee. If you guess the filters correctly you can have a 100% chance of winning the guaranteed prize.   BobP






                          True. Also building a wheel from filters always produces more lines than a typical abbreviated minimum wheel, assuming you want to achieve a certain guarantee. On the other hand, filtering an abbreviated wheel is not a good idea, coverage is vanished. Filtering is good only on full wheels, where each ticket is individually tested against the winning numbers and is not related to other tickets in the wheel. For abbreviated wheels, the best solution so far is to use an open-cover wheel, if someone wants to retain a high coverage ratio and play with more numbers or less tickets.

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                            Quote: Originally posted by lottoarchitect on May 1, 2005

                            Quote: Originally posted by BobP on April 30, 2005

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                            There is a difference between building a wheel around filters and starting with a wheel and removing lines that don't pass the filters. Once you remove a single line from a wheel you can be pulling as much as twenty percent out of the coverage, or less then 1%, the trouble is you don't know which it was.



                            When you build around filters you have a conditional guarantee. If you guess the filters correctly you can have a 100% chance of winning the guaranteed prize.   BobP






                            True. Also building a wheel from filters always produces more lines than a typical abbreviated minimum wheel, assuming you want to achieve a certain guarantee. On the other hand, filtering an abbreviated wheel is not a good idea, coverage is vanished. Filtering is good only on full wheels, where each ticket is individually tested against the winning numbers and is not related to other tickets in the wheel. For abbreviated wheels, the best solution so far is to use an open-cover wheel, if someone wants to retain a high coverage ratio and play with more numbers or less tickets.






                            other option is to build a wheel from filters and then minimize the number of lines while maintaining the coverage. this way you'll get both - lines that passed all your filters and the maximum coverage with the minimum number of lines.

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                              Combination of intuition when it's working (sometimes  not), pencil and paper writing successive draws for the game I'm following on plain ruled paper, Lottery Post results page, Lotto Pro 2005 software to check statistics also quickly pull up game history also histories of comparable games, Lottery Post predictions page.  Use quick picks only if all else has failed.  Wheels are fine if you have a hunch about some of the numbers that may hit. 

                              Good luck to everyone!