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• orangeman

  

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  The best way to use Prime Line is to use the three lines to find key numbers.  For example, if the line goes from 9 to 7, chances are it will go back to 8 or 9.  Take 8 or 9, make a nine-number wheel wheel and play the 49 results times 6 for $294 to win $500 or $900 on .  Take the 7 and throw it out.  Chances are it will not repeat. 

  This is a very good strategy with Prime Line.  Trying to win on the cheap is not a wise investment.  A percentage profit can be achieved much more often.  The key is to experiment with it and don't expect it to do things that are nearly impossible.

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• RJOh

  

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  The test of any system is its number of wins.  When ever any one has run a test on LP open to the view of all members, no system has ever done any better than an equal amount of randomly chosen combinations over the same period of time.  It has only been when the tests were done else where and only their results reported here that they have done better.

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• Rick G

  

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  $747 for a lottery system?  You've got to be joking.  Members, watch out for scams and those who may benefit by promoting those scams.

  It's happened here before and I was duped once but never again.  I will play my own picks and take my own losses (minus $747.50).  To rip off fellow lottery players because one can't win the lottery themselves and profit legitimately is a "moral crime".

  As has been pointed out numerous times, if the product was so good, it would not be for sale and the seller of such would be shopping for their own island not unwitting lottery players.

  P's me off big time.

  Posted 4/6:  IL Pick 3 midday and evening until they hit:  555, 347 (str8).
  

  
  
• lottobrain

  

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      There are about as many pick 3 systems around as there are pick 3 numbers I suppose.  We all have out own ways of playing, mixing in ideas from others, etc.  And all of these systems work sometimes.  I recently read somewhere in an LP post where one member had purchased some of Steve Player's systems and found them not to be so useful in original form so he altered his strategy so make them workable.  I have also purchased several of his systems quite a number of years ago....the least expensive ones.......$30....$40.  Back then he had a few that were in the $400-$500 range.  I was tempted to buy one of his schemes once that cost $100 a year. He advertised it as one of his best systems. He would send you 10 numbers each month to play straight only. I never succumbed to the temptation until he offered it for a 3 month deal for $20.  That I was willing to invest. When the numbers came, I soon figured out how the thing worked and was able to do it myself from then on. One lucky move came when I did my own study of the numbers and figured out what was due moreso than his suggestions and hit straight on the next draw on the Sunday night before his new numbers set arrived in the mail the next day with my numbers in the mix. It wasn't a bad idea and I have used it over the years from time to time to make some straight hits. There was a time though that it seemed to take forever to hit and that is the way of all systems.....a sticking point always shows up somewhere and if we hang with it, we lose money.  Money management is one of the hardest things to learn as I know.....still trying!  I recently found one of his old systems in a box in the closet and began to work with it with some new ideas. Hoping that it might turn into a workable system for a few $ per draw.  Lottobrain
• Sandy K

  

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  what system of Steve Player did you use, LottoBrain that you made work?

  Curious as to what one because I have a few (back in the old days when I was younger and stupider).........

  Sandy
• lottobrain

  

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  Sandy K:  I believe it was the CASHMAX system.  It was a long time ago now, but the description of this system in his catalog seems to fit the money spending idea....needing a $300 bankroll in order to play for a month at the rate of $10 a day.  Back in those days, states only had one draw a day and Steve Player always based his systems play on $1 bets. One could also only play .50 cents str. and need only $150 for the month at that time. But in todays world, the $300 would be needed just to play at .50cts str.  The whole idea was based on overdue pairs in str form, either from the front , back or split pairs (1 digit on the front and the other from the back). You then played every digit with that pair for 10 str plays per draw.  Of course a cheaper way would be just to play a $1 on the overdue pair or maybe $2. Later one could increase the bet amount if they are winning.  I used to just play the overdue pair for $5 on one ticket in Maryland where I was at the time to save on tickets and make the sales transaction go faster. The result was the same.....$250 if the pair hit in the overdue position.  Lottobrain
• emilyg

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by hosni on May 20, 2005
  
  

  
  

  SK, Just checked Dr. Zid system production for CA this noon, and another Straight hit with 273. Now I know for sure, I don't need Prime-Line.

  System ZID - PICK 3 Straight Wheeling
  
  Date: Fri May 20 15:17:39 PDT 2005
  
  Draw entries: 30
  
  073 959 845 372 289 674 055 633 229 947
  
  453 392 397 830 122 036 893 779 734 080
  
  448 274 676 091 211 273 655 184 072 813

  Hot/Cold Selections
  
  Pos. 1: Hot# 2(20) Cold# 1(5)
  
  Pos. 2: Hot# 2(37) Cold# 1(6)
  
  Pos. 3: Hot# 2(23) Cold# 1(8)

  Filter Settings
  
  Hot/Cold: CCC CCH CHH HHH
  
  High/Low: HHH HHL HLL LLL
  
  Odd/Even: OOO OOE OEE EEE
  
  Num.Type: Singles

  Playing Suggestions: 21
  
  568 068 563 578 063 078 268 538 562 573
  
  038 062 073 263 278 572 072 238 273 532
  
  032
  
  

        El-Ho in very warm and sunny Escondido, California

  
  

  
  

  and it had ga. 468 str. tonight

  love to nibble those micey feet.

   

                               
• Sandy K

  

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  well it hit 501 straight in CA again..........and emily, you say it is working in GA also...how many draws input Emily........?????

  Lottobrain...thank you for answering....question to you is...what is considered the overdue pair........the longest out pairs?  If it the longest out pairs....it is like the Omega3 system of his..............thing is with that system...you are counting on cold pairs and sometimes those don't come in for ages.

  Sandy
• lottobrain

  

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  Sandy K:  It was based on finding the most overdue pairs in straight form. Since there are 100 front pairs.....00*-99*, 100 back pairs same way and 100 split pairs 0*0, 9*9, you would have to track all three groups to find the most overdue in each category to know what were the MOST overdue.  As I recall some of these might go as long as 3 years before hitting, so it could take awhile to hit one.  They were talking here at LP just a few days ago how long it had been for the 49 pair to hit in either the day draw or the night draw in just boxed form. I believe it finally hit a few draws ago.  I had also tried that Steve Player system back around 1991 where I found the overdue pairs in boxed form and then combo the most overdue with every digit. I was playing $1 combo which runs $27 a draw for the longest. I was up to about $700 invested before it hit, so I lost money. With straight pair method, one doesn't have to play all 10 digits with the pair to win $250 to start with, but could play just .50 or $1 on the pair and maybe track 4 or 5 of them to avoid getting to deep in, but of course the winnings are 10xs less than a 3 digit str.  Of course most states don't have the setup where one can play the 0*0 type of split pair by itself. If your most overdue pair was this type, you would be forced to repllace the "*" with all 10 digits and play 10 numbers to try to hit. Virginia is one statae that allows all 3 types of pair play. Most of Steve Players systems involve looking for the coldest ideas. I began to change my thinking several years ago to where I now try to find the hotter things to look for and not get locked in to tracking something forever. I plan my numbers based on the 13 draws from the previous week and play my new set for the next week. At the end of the week , I start over with my evaluation and make changes. Sometimes a number I had and drop, comes right out the next draw, and that is frustrating, but I avoid the long waits which probably saves me money in the long run.  I downloaded the Zid system a few days ago and have been experimenting with it, but have not come to any conclusions yet.  Hope this helps, Lottobrain
• Hyperdimension

  

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  hosni,

    After re-evaluation of your system, there is still time to get your money back, reason: the system never comes to you , you have to wait 2 or more weeks for "marketing papers" to sign, you know that no system works forever (remember 747.50 is too much in my opinion, I heard your reasons (hobby) and I respected), and I'm sure this system is a scam, there is still time..

   
  
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• emilyg

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by Sandy K on May 22, 2005
  
  

  
  

  well it hit 501 straight in CA again..........and emily, you say it is working in GA also...how many draws input Emily........?????

  Lottobrain...thank you for answering....question to you is...what is considered the overdue pair........the longest out pairs?  If it the longest out pairs....it is like the Omega3 system of his..............thing is with that system...you are counting on cold pairs and sometimes those don't come in for ages.

  
  

  
  

  s - i use what hosni suggested    input 30  all filters  2 hot 1 cold

  love to nibble those micey feet.

   

                               
• Sky

  

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  I too received an "invitation" for Steve Players  GEO Matrix System for the Ohio Rolling Cash 5  but, it  stated " the regular price for the Pick 5/ GEO Matrix system is $1,495.00. This special half price offer requires that  you inform us of any First Prize Jackpots that you win and allow us to use your name in our future promotions. This special invitation offer is open to Ohio 5/39 Rolling Cash-5 players only."  At first I thought he was singling Ohio out  but, now from what I see I am very glad I did not go with my first stupid intentions and order the system, who knows how many people in different states received that same letter. In the past I have bought several of Players systems and have spent alot of $$ doing so, I will never again buy anything  from him , at this point I haven't won one thin dime from any systems that I bought, from him. I can only wish him the best of luck. He makes all his systems sound like it is really too good to be true, and you know what they say about that!    Just my experiences with the "Player"    Sky
• RJOh

  

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  Sky,

  Had you bought Steve's $1,495 system for Ohio Rolling Cash 5, you would have won at least $1 back.  With overall odds of 1:9, it's hard not to win a dollar back if you're willing to spend $20 on tickets.  I played the 5 lines I posted in the prediction section yesterday and got back $1 for $5 spent using my own RNG system.  If I ever win the jackpot, maybe I'll write Steve and offer to sell him the rights to use my name for $10K.  He should make a similar offer to the people who buy his system.

  RJOh

   * you don't need to buy every combination, just the winning ones * 

         
  
• RJOh

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by Hyperdimension on May 22, 2005
  
  

  
  

  hosni,

    After re-evaluation of your system, there is still time to get your money back, reason: the system never comes to you , you have to wait 2 or more weeks for "marketing papers" to sign, you know that no system works forever (remember 747.50 is too much in my opinion, I heard your reasons (hobby) and I respected), and I'm sure this system is a scam, there is still time..

   
  
  Regards 

  
  

  
  

  hosni posted he had to sign some non disclosure papers before he could receive the system package, so if the system turns out to be BS he may have a legal obligation not to disclose it.  Besides, who would want everyone here at lottery post to know they paid $750 for a piece of crap?

  RJOh

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• BobP

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by Sky on May 22, 2005
  
  

  
  

  I too received an "invitation" for Steve Players  GEO Matrix System for the Ohio Rolling Cash 5  but, it  stated " the regular price for the Pick 5/ GEO Matrix system is $1,495.00. This special half price offer requires that  you inform us of any First Prize Jackpots that you win and allow us to use your name in our future promotions. This special invitation offer is open to Ohio 5/39 Rolling Cash-5 players only."  At first I thought he was singling Ohio out  but, now from what I see I am very glad I did not go with my first stupid intentions and order the system, who knows how many people in different states received that same letter. In the past I have bought several of Players systems and have spent alot of $$ doing so, I will never again buy anything  from him , at this point I haven't won one thin dime from any systems that I bought, from him. I can only wish him the best of luck. He makes all his systems sound like it is really too good to be true, and you know what they say about that!    Just my experiences with the "Player"    Sky

  
  

  
  

  If the system is game specific every state likely gets numbers based on their game size, like a  wheel broken down into sub-sections for playing.  Some of Steve's systems can be the size of a phone book full of combinations, the prize winning combination is in there for most or all draws, but you'll find it is just as elusive as picking it without a system. 
  
  
  
  Anyone happen to know what Steve Ledoux's system is based on in like ten words or less?  BobP