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Posted: July 25, 2005, 9:38 am - IP Logged

After looking at a variety of filter/reduction methods, an apparent distribution pattern can be seen. For 5 numbers it goes something like this:

1 to 2 numbers low value (L)

1 to 3 numbers medium value (M)

1 to 2 numbers high value (H)

then if follows

L,M,M,M,H

L,M,M,H,H

L,L,M,M,H

L,L,M,H,H

As with all methods, there will be some actual picks that fall out of the range. But, this will be valid for the majority of the actual picks.

Try it, I think you'll see it applies probabilities, occurrences, last time picked....etc.

Maybe, you can find something useful to do with the info. (S)

 

You are a slave to the choices you have made.  jk

Even a blind squirrel will occasioanlly find an acorn.

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    JKING -

    If I read this right, in, for instance, a 5/39 lottery, the distribution would be as follows?

    A: 1 to 13
    B: 1 to 26
    C: 14 to 26
    D: 14 to 39
    E: 27 to 39

    If so, I did the workout with the following results:

    There are 575,757 total possibilities in a 5/39 matrix lottery. If you restrict the possibilities to the above limits, there are 293,618 possibilities, or 51.01% of the total possibilities.

    Notes: I made it easy on myself by using a matrix where the number of balls drawn would be divisible by 3, so the division into thirds would be equal. And I've only done the workout for that particular lottery - so far.

    gl

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    Blessed Saint Leibowitz, keep 'em dreamin' down there..... 

    Next week's convention for Psychics and Prognosticators has been cancelled due to unforeseen circumstances.

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      Posted: July 25, 2005, 3:37 pm - IP Logged

      JKING -

      Doing the same analysis on a 5/54 lottery I arrive at the following:

      A: 1 to 18
      B: 1 to 36
      C: 19 to 36
      D: 19 to 54
      E: 37 to 54

      Results:

      Total possibilities - 3,162,510, restricted possibilities - 1,528,470, percentage - 48.34%.

      Blessed Saint Leibowitz, keep 'em dreamin' down there..... 

      Next week's convention for Psychics and Prognosticators has been cancelled due to unforeseen circumstances.

       =^.^=

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        The 5/39 distribution of L,M,H of individual lotto numbers would be as follows:

        L=1-13

        M=14-26

        H=27-39

        John please note this is a results oriented observation. I keep seeing occur in just about every filter/reduction method I use. I haven't fomalized/quantified it. I am merely throwing it up for discussion to see if either anyone is doing anything similiar to this or is seeing the same patterns I am.

        You are a slave to the choices you have made.  jk

        Even a blind squirrel will occasioanlly find an acorn.

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          Posted: July 25, 2005, 3:59 pm - IP Logged

          JKING -

          I screwed up the calcs on the 5/39 matrix. Correction:

          A: 1 to 13
          B: 1 to 26
          C: 14 to 26
          D: 14 to 39
          E: 27 to 39

          Results: Total possibilities - 575,757, restricted possibilities - 285,610, percentage - 49.61%.

          Sorry about that.

          gl

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          Blessed Saint Leibowitz, keep 'em dreamin' down there..... 

          Next week's convention for Psychics and Prognosticators has been cancelled due to unforeseen circumstances.

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            Posted: July 25, 2005, 4:03 pm - IP Logged

            I would be interested in your calc's with the new info I supplied you....thanks.

            You are a slave to the choices you have made.  jk

            Even a blind squirrel will occasioanlly find an acorn.

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              Posted: July 25, 2005, 5:28 pm - IP Logged

              JKING -

              Breakdown of 5/39 into four programs:

              LLMMH

              A: 1 to 13
              B: 1 to 13
              C: 14 to 26
              D: 14 to 26
              E: 27 to 39

              Possibilities - 79,092.

              LLMHH

              A: 1 to 13
              B: 1 to 13
              C: 14 to 26
              D: 27 to 39
              E: 27 to 39

              Possibilities - 79,092.

              LMMMH

              A: 1 to 13
              B: 14 to 26
              C: 14 to 26
              D: 14 to 26
              E: 27 to 39

              Possibilities - 48,334.

              LMMHH

              A: 1 to 13
              B: 14 to 26
              C: 14 to 26
              D: 27 to 39
              E: 27 to 39

              Possibiliites - 79,092

              Total possibilities of above - 285,610, same as before.

              Your observations, by the way, are good and sound.

              One of the reasons I built the lottery frequency charts on my website was to facilitate percentage analyses, something close to what you're looking at here. For instance, this is the 5/39 chart as it appears on site:

               

                    5/39     
                ABCDETotal
              173815        73815
              2660457770      73815
              35890514280630    73815
              45236019635178535  73815
              546376239363366136173815
              640920272805280330573815
              7359602976074406401573815
              83146531465976510853573815
              927405324801218016807073815
              10237513288614616243612673815
              11204753276017010336021073815
              12175503217519305445533073815
              13149503120021450572049573815
              14126502990023400715071573815
              151062628336251168736100173815
              168855265652656510465136573815
              177315246402772012320182073815
              185985226102856014280238073815
              194845205202907016320306073815
              203876184112924118411387673815
              213060163202907020520484573815
              222380142802856022610598573815
              231820123202772024640731573815
              241365104652656526565885573815
              251001873625116283361062673815
              26715715023400299001265073815
              27495572021450312001495073815
              28330445519305321751755073815
              29210336017010327602047573815
              30126243614616328862375173815
              3170168012180324802740573815
              323510859765314653146573815
              33156407440297603596073815
              3453305280272804092073815
              3511363366239364637673815
              36  351785196355236073815
              37    630142805890573815
              38      77706604573815
              39        7381573815
              Total575757575757575757575757575757 


              And here is the same chart, sorted by column frequency:

               

                        5/39       
                A  B  C  D  E
              1738151032886202924130328863973815
              2660451132760192907029327603866045
              358905932480212907031324803758905
              4523601232175182856028321753652360
              546376831465222856032314653546376
              6409201331200172772027312003440920
              7359601429900232772026299003335960
              831465729760162656533297603231465
              9274051528336242656525283363127405
              1023751627280152511634272803023751
              11204751626565252511624265652920475
              12175501724640142340023246402817550
              1314950523936262340035239362714950
              14126501822610132145022226102612650
              15106261920520272145021205202510626
              16885541963512193053619635248855
              177315201841128193052018411237315
              185985211632011170101916320225985
              19484531428029170101814280214845
              203876221428010146163714280203876
              213060231232030146161712320193060
              22238024104659121801610465182380
              2318202587363112180158736171820
              2413652777089765387770161365
              251001267150329765147150151001
              267152757207744013572014715
              2749528445533744012445513495
              283302933606528011336012330
              2921030243634528010243611210
              30126311680533669168010126
              317032108535336681085970
              323533640417857640835
              3315343303617856330715
              345351363630513665
              35136353763043551
              36  1  1  1  1 
              37  37  2  2  2 
              38  38  38  3  3 
              39  39  39  39  4 
              Total575757  575757  575757  575757  575757


              One of my original purpose in creating these charts was to find a method, for instance, where I could eliminate any and all numbers in any column which wouldn't occur in 90% of the possible drawings. In this exampe, 1 to 14 will appear in Column A 90.77% of the time, 3 to 25 will appear in Column B 90.62% of the time, 9 to 31 will appear in Column C 90.18% of the time, 15 to 37 will appear in Column D 90.62% of the time and 26 to 39 will appear in Column E 90.77% of the time. If all the drawings where these numbers and these numbers only wouldn't appear were eliminated, there would be 386,417 drawings remaining, or 67.11% of the 575,757 total possibilities. Like you, I was looking for filters to reduce the possibilities.

              Incidentally, raising the percentage above 90% will increase the number of restricted possibilities, lowering the percentage will lower them. It's still a matter of choice.

              Blessed Saint Leibowitz, keep 'em dreamin' down there..... 

              Next week's convention for Psychics and Prognosticators has been cancelled due to unforeseen circumstances.

               =^.^=

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                Thanks, your analysis is outstanding as usual.

                One of the things I was trying to suggest, is this L,M,H rating system applies to even more. If for example you take a look at the average amount of occurrences over a 23 game range, you might end up with something like this:

                L=0,1

                M=2,3,4

                H=5 and up

                In others words, this model seems to apply to just about every filter type.

                The advantage of this approach is that it does require alot of complicated math, it's a laymans approach that seems to be valid. The bottom line is that its easy.

                 

                Preferred values:

                L,M,M,M,H

                L,M,M,H,H

                L,L,M,M,H

                L,L,M,H,H

                Restricted values:

                L,L,L,M,M

                L,L,L,M,H

                L,L,L,H,H

                L,L,L,L,M

                L,L,L,L,H

                L,L,L,L,L

                L,L,H,H,H

                L,M,H,H,H

                M,M,H,H,H

                L,H,H,H,H

                M,H,H,H,H

                H,H,H,H,H

                 

                 

                 

                 

                 

                 

                You are a slave to the choices you have made.  jk

                Even a blind squirrel will occasioanlly find an acorn.