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The RIGGED Jackpot (PB & MM) Computers!

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Posted: October 17, 2005, 4:38 pm - IP Logged

First of all, the computer does NOT spit out ALL the possible combinations that are possible in Powerball (which I call PowerRip) or Megamillions (MegaRip). 

Why? 

Because the computer is programmed to LIMIT the number of possible combinations.  So it is very possible the quickpick YOU buy today is the quickpick somebody ELSE bought YESTERDAY or might buy TOMORROW. 

(Note, when they "adjust" the computer, they can increase the likelihood of a winner by letting the computer print out more of the possible combinations).

Second, by buying more than one quickpick on the same ticket, you increase the chance of getting a repeat number on two or more lines, which you do NOT want to do.  That is called "random creep".

Conclusion?  While I will not deny that "quickpicks" have won a jackpot, still, through careful number selection strategy you have a BETTER likelihood of winning than by letting the fixed, i.e. "rigged" computer select your numbers.  (If you buy five quickpicks, make sure each is put on a separate ticket).

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    Posted: October 17, 2005, 4:44 pm - IP Logged

    proof?

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      Posted: October 17, 2005, 4:44 pm - IP Logged

      Hooray!  Another conspiracy theory...they're all out to get us!!

      I met a random creep once, we didn't get along too well.

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        Posted: October 17, 2005, 4:50 pm - IP Logged

        First of all, the computer does NOT spit out ALL the possible combinations that are possible in Powerball (which I call PowerRip) or Megamillions (MegaRip). 

        Why? 

        Because the computer is programmed to LIMIT the number of possible combinations.  So it is very possible the quickpick YOU buy today is the quickpick somebody ELSE bought YESTERDAY or might buy TOMORROW. 

        (Note, when they "adjust" the computer, they can increase the likelihood of a winner by letting the computer print out more of the possible combinations).

        Second, by buying more than one quickpick on the same ticket, you increase the chance of getting a repeat number on two or more lines, which you do NOT want to do.  That is called "random creep".

        Conclusion?  While I will not deny that "quickpicks" have won a jackpot, still, through careful number selection strategy you have a BETTER likelihood of winning than by letting the fixed, i.e. "rigged" computer select your numbers.  (If you buy five quickpicks, make sure each is put on a separate ticket).

        Correct me if I'm wrong.  I'm under the impression that QPs win a majority of the jackpots.

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          Posted: October 17, 2005, 4:56 pm - IP Logged

          QP's do because most people play them and they also fall within statistical norms.  When people buy tickets and use their own numbers they usually play lower numbers (birthdays, ages, anniversaries, etc)

          They don't need to limit the numbers or repeat the numbers that come out of the random number generators.  There is such a large amount of combonations that they don't need to.  I bet if you went all around the country and gathered all the QP's for last Saturday's Powerball drawing (it should be about $70,000,000) you wouldn't find a ticket that was played more than 2.  The matrix might not look that big but it really is.

          Brad

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            Posted: October 17, 2005, 5:22 pm - IP Logged

            greg so the computer is jumping around inside the machine with the balls telling them it's not their turn to be drawn.

            Big John says. You don't hit the number. The number hits you!!!!

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              Posted: October 17, 2005, 5:28 pm - IP Logged

              The odds are against you, that why someone dosen't always win every draw and there is a roll over. Someone or more than one person will win this jackpot and then there will be another drawing where someone may or may not win that drawing and it keep going and on and on. That's the way it works they don't need to fix the drawings the odds are in their favor.

              "Money won is twice as sweet as money earned"

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                Posted: October 17, 2005, 6:04 pm - IP Logged

                Is this just your hunch or do you have proof of this happening?

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                  Posted: October 17, 2005, 6:27 pm - IP Logged

                  The theory is questionable. First of all, the ping-pong ball has no concept of picks, quick picks, restrictions, or whatever. If the restictive number theory had a basis, those with preselected numbers would have the advantage.  To the ball machine, a number is a number, all it knows is the first one down the tube wins; repeat cycle - kinda like sperm. 

                  It is my personal opinion that the QP option selects a greater spread of numbers then a system will. Therefore, there are more QP numbers available for the target. It is the shotgun effect. The smaller the choke (selected numbers) the smaller the range of targets. The wider the choke, the greater the possibility of a hit. Sometime the pellets hit the small target, some times they hit the wide target, and once in a while they hit a combination. Another way to look at it is: I shot an arrow in the sky, where it fell I do not know!

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                    Posted: October 17, 2005, 6:52 pm - IP Logged

                    Is this just your hunch or do you have proof of this happening?

                    As a filipino waiter in a fancy restaurant once asked me in a loud voice when I asked whether a particular wine on the list was red, or white,

                    "You don't even know THAT?"

                    Just grinning.

                    Always brings to mind a restaurant they'd opened when the Pompeii exhibit was in Dallas... super ritzi too expensive place.... ordered a red wine.  "Carafe?"  Asks the waiter.  "No.  I'll just have a chianti," I answers.

                    You don't wants to go to a respectable place with me.

                    Jack

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                    It's about number behavior.

                    Egos don't count.

                     

                    Dedicated to the memory of Big Loooser

                     

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                      Posted: October 17, 2005, 10:02 pm - IP Logged

                      greg so the computer is jumping around inside the machine with the balls telling them it's not their turn to be drawn.

                      LOL

                       

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                        Anyone ever hear about the time some people tried to exploit the PA lottery Daily Number, by using latex paint except on the numbers they wanted to come up?  Then they played all the various combinations throughout the entire state, and almost walked away with millions. I forget the exact amount. They almost got away with it! I forgot the link address however. I believe the movie "Lucky Numbers" was based off that story.

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                            Anyone ever hear about the time some people tried to exploit the PA lottery Daily Number, by filling every ball with ink except the numbers they wanted to come up?  Then they played all the various combinations throughout the entire state, and almost walked away with millions. I forget the exact amount. They almost got away with it! I forgot the link address however. I believe the movie "Lucky Numbers" was based off that story.

                            And because of that failed attempt and a few other failed attempts. These days the games have serious security control measures in effect. That kind of tampering with ball drawings has been and will be almost impossible in the future. Unless everyone involved in the game was a part of it and to what end. They can't collect any money since most employees of  state lotterys aren't allowed to play the games. If they got caught spend time behind bars.  

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                              Posted: October 18, 2005, 3:12 am - IP Logged

                              Well, let me first say that most of us are looking for any advantage we can get when it comes to winning a jackpot, so I appreciate your post, Greg.

                              The problem is that the lottery results don't seem to back up your assertions.  If the computers are producing a large number of duplicate numbers, then we would quite often see jackpots being won by a large number of people  -- like 50 or more.  Instead, when someone wins a jackpot with an autopick, you rarely see more than 1 or 2 additional people who also have the same numbers from an autopick.