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# The RIGGED Jackpot (PB & MM) Computers!

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It is true that computers can be programmed to LIMIT the actual number of combinations possible to be generated.

Actually, everything I stated at the outset can be found and documented in a book written by William Atwood called The Lottery Solution.

Also is included is a software diskette.  The book is fascinating.

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But Greg, that can only be done on QP's and games that have computers drawing the numbers! Other than that it couldn't be done on a game that uses balls!

Keep dreaming the impossible dream, it just may come true!

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Whats the gain for MUSL to fix the outcome? How much increase would the bonus be? The accountants gotta be counting the money, so no rip off there. No return, no crime. Petty thiefs rob a 7-11 for dollar twenty-five. No body rips of the lottery for zero gain. To prove you can do it? Not gonna happen.

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Barista, it does not "apply" to games where computers draw the numbers.  It simply means that the number of combinations players buy are duplicates, despite the common assumption that your quick pick is yours alone selected just for you!

Thus, if you buy \$50. quickpicks, maybe 38 or more were sold to others because the computer is not programmed to spit out all the POSSIBLE combinations.  Does everyone feel happy that the money they've spent is uniquely "theirs"?

Of course, the people behind the powerball won't tell you that.  Read The Lottery Solution if you want.

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Barista, it does not "apply" to games where computers draw the numbers.  It simply means that the number of combinations players buy are duplicates, despite the common assumption that your quick pick is yours alone selected just for you!

Thus, if you buy \$50. quickpicks, maybe 38 or more were sold to others because the computer is not programmed to spit out all the POSSIBLE combinations.  Does everyone feel happy that the money they've spent is uniquely "theirs"?

Of course, the people behind the powerball won't tell you that.  Read The Lottery Solution if you want.

It's my understanding that computers which generate QP tickets begin generating with a seed number for final output, so your statements about the possibility of duplicates same state or different states seems sound.

Another reason why people who pick their own numbers win more often although they seem to be in the minority of all ticket sales.  No guarantee of no duplicates but odds favor you more.

Good luck to everyone!

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I actually heard, and read that 70% of all winners are ones who chose QP.

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I actually heard, and read that 70% of all winners are ones who chose QP.

You're likely correct on those numbers because more people choose QP and following that there are more winners with QP.

However, more people who choose their own numbers, although they are in the minority win more often.

Good luck to everyone!

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Just not as big of prizes? I believe it was the Powerball jackpots that I heard that about 70% are QP wins. Personally I choose my own numbers, and QPs usually.

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I'm extremely upset. I paid a guy a dollar two ninety eight to fix the MegaMillion roll last night, and he ripped me off! He said it would be easy. I am still looking for him.

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"fix" the Mega Millions drawing!? lol

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FORTY NINE PEOPLE HAD THE SAME QUICK PICK WHEN THEY HAD ALL FIVE NUMBERS!

As I wrote above,

"the number of combinations that players buy are duplicates, despite the common assumption that your quick pick is yours alone selected just for you!  Thus, if you buy \$50. quickpicks, maybe 38 or more were sold to others because the computer is not programmed to spit out all the POSSIBLE combinations."

Ok, let's say I'm wrong and that 10 of those 49 people picked their OWN numbers!  Still, 39 same quickpick numbers were given out by the pball computer!

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FORTY NINE PEOPLE HAD THE SAME QUICK PICK WHEN THEY HAD ALL FIVE NUMBERS!

As I wrote above,

"the number of combinations that players buy are duplicates, despite the common assumption that your quick pick is yours alone selected just for you!  Thus, if you buy \$50. quickpicks, maybe 38 or more were sold to others because the computer is not programmed to spit out all the POSSIBLE combinations."

Ok, let's say I'm wrong and that 10 of those 49 people picked their OWN numbers!  Still, 39 same quickpick numbers were given out by the pball computer!

Greg,

I agree, although the machine that is generating the numbers is the lottery machine itself, not a central computer.  The lottery machine has a RNG built-in, and it SENDS the numbers picked to the central computer, which registers them, just as it does when you supply the numbers.  So, either you pick the numbers, or the lottery machine picks the numbers, and either way, those numbers are sent to the central computer.  After the central computer verifies that it has registered the numbers, the ticket is printed.

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Help eliminate computerized drawings!

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Greg, I'm sorry, but that proves nothing.

The odds of matching 5+0 are 3.4 million to one.  Sell 150 million tickets, and every possible 5+0 combination is going to be repeated about 44 times.  49 is certainly within the expected range, given randomness.

If 500 people had hit 5+0, you might have a case.  No matter what five number combination was drawn, excluding the red Powerball, we would've seen 35-55 Match 5 winners.

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How many tickets actually DID get sold?  Do they release that kind of data?

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 Posted: October 21, 2005, 4:34 pm - IP Logged

Sales totaled \$165,702,055.  From watching the payout board, I think the normal PowerPlay percentage is 10% of tickets??  Tons of new players for this drawing...only 2 of the 49 Match 5'ers put down the extra buck...so Powerplay was probably purchased on 3-6% of all tickets.

Sales of \$165 million.......Tickets purchased - around 155 million.

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