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Honest Lotto System ?

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Posted: October 25, 2005, 7:24 pm - IP Logged

I have bought this system and have found it to be a complete load of bollocks. All that you get is a PDF file that tells you how to do the basic wheeling system and you can find that just about anywhere on the net. I've also built myself a spreadsheet on Excel that I've applied most formulae or buildable winning number systems that can be put into excel and I'm far surpassing anything with my theories than this so called Honest Lotto system ever did for me.

SAVE YOUR MONEY!


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    Posted: October 25, 2005, 7:43 pm - IP Logged

    I have bought this system and have found it to be a complete load of bollocks. All that you get is a PDF file that tells you how to do the basic wheeling system and you can find that just about anywhere on the net. I've also built myself a spreadsheet on Excel that I've applied most formulae or buildable winning number systems that can be put into excel and I'm far surpassing anything with my theories than this so called Honest Lotto system ever did for me.

    SAVE YOUR MONEY!

     

    I could have told you that.

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      Posted: October 25, 2005, 8:23 pm - IP Logged

      I am always mighty suspicious whenever ANYONE uses the word "HONEST" in such  a phrase as "honest Lotto System"...

      It's not honest because of all the information that's left out...  And it plays on the gullibility of those looking to make a quick buck as if there IS such a system that can immediately yield you bucks when playing the lottery which one might infer from title.  Not so, though. Let's delete this thread before someone else makes this seller richer.

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        Posted: October 25, 2005, 8:43 pm - IP Logged

        "There would be far more winners if the lottery put a leash on their random number generator, such as making it use all the numbers before using any number a second time." 
         

        If lotteries did that, their QPs wouldn't be totally random picks.  If players want their numbers picked like that they can use a RNG on their home computers that follows that rule and make out cards.

        Fair enough. How exactly would one go about doing that?  BobP

        I do it with a RNG I wrote using GWBasic. I added a counter to limit the number of times the numbers are picked. Over the years I have also added features such as checking the picks with past drawings, checking sums, ranges and etc.  You can also used a wheel which guarantee a match of one.

        I think you'd do better playing a smaller game, when isn't that true. ;-)

        Where can the avrage person get such a RNG if they don't write their own software? The CoverMaster program will only go down to a 2if wheel, no 1if.  Besides you don't need a 1if wheel maker unless it can adjust parameters, as just using all the numbers one time is a 1if wheel.  The trick is getting the balances right.  It can take dozens to thousands of runs to get everything to fit together.

        I noticed you allowed 4 low or 4 high, maybe 2/3 or 3/2 would be a better choice was your's based on history or what the RNG produced?  BobP

        BobP...Lotto Pro 2005 has a RNG feature in their program.

        Here are some numbers generated with it for tonights Mega Millions, we'll see how it does.

        01-13-42-45-47 33

        02-17-18-52-56 35

        04-17-28-32-56 17

        04-18-29-33-52 42

        05-21-24-42-47 42

        07-17-29-33-56 38

        13-24-26-40-42 29

        16-17-19-39-56 12

        16-28-29-32-33 13

        20-23-24-26-45 25

        Good luck!

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          Posted: October 25, 2005, 9:00 pm - IP Logged

          Very well, then - let's try an experiment:

          I've just returned from Michigan, where I bought $65.00 worth of MegaMillions tickets.

          I selected twelve combinations myself, and fifteen were QP's. 

          I have ten QP's and two self-selected numbers good for tonight's draw only, and the remainder are good for the next three draws. However, the two combinations I selected for tonight's drawing are duplicates (same numbers) because I hadn't selected multi-draw on the bet slip. Before the problem was corrected, the tickets had already been printed. I bought them (because I didn't want someone else buying my "mistake"), and then corrected the bet slip, so I have the same numbers for three draws, too (maybe I'm a random number generator and just don't know it yet).

          Anyway, out of $65.00 spent, I ended up with 27 different combinations.

          I carefully examined each combination to determine which numbers I don't have, and here they are:

          15, 25, 30, 35, 39 and 41.

          Anyone who cares to is encouraged to play these numbers. I'd play them myself, but I'm home now, the Michigan border is 44 miles away and, apparently, $128 million isn't enough money to induce me get out of this chair. 

          When the PowerBall jackpot reaches $100M or more, I normally get twenty quickpicks along with the numbers I play every week. Then I use the method above to find which numbers the RNG omitted. I usually have eight or nine numbers that don't appear anywhere, so I'll wheel them and then go back to the store to buy the extra tickets to cover the missing numbers. I've hit a hundred dollars several times by doing this (I don't buy the PowerPlay option on these tickets), but it's definitely a crapshoot; many times I've had the correct numbers in the wrong place.

          For example, let's say 37 and 41 were two of the missing numbers. Then, let's say I chose 37 as the PowerBall and 41 was wheeled into the white field, but 37 came up in the white field and 41 was the PowerBall. To play every variation would be cost-prohibitive, so you just have to do the best you can and keep your fingers crossed.

          You don't have that problem with the missing MegaMillions numbers above, however, because you can play every number as the MegaBall for only six dollars and have every combination covered.

          As for the Honest Lotto system, I've never seen it, but I get emails from Ken Silver all the time. From his messages, I surmise that his methods are no different from those available almost anywhere for free. He always includes customer testamonials, and most of them are chock-full of thanks and kudos. I suspect, though that the majority of these people are either unaware of the availability of other, more effective systems, or they're not in the habit of analyzing past draws and selecting their own numbers. I say this because the customers who sing his praises often include comments like, "Wow! I used your system for the first time last night, and missed a three-number prize by only one digit! Thanks, Ken!" Mr. Silver will then respond with something to the effect of, "See? It takes practice, but the Honest Lotto System really does increase your odds of winning, if you're willing to put in the minimal time and effort required to learn it." On the other hand, I've never seen a testamonial from a jackpot winner.

          Effective lottery systems help reduce your overall odds by reducing the number of choices in the field. In other words, a good system is all about eliminating numbers, leaving the player with a much smaller field of numbers to choose from. Whether any system is worth the price is a judgment call; if you win more than you paid for the product and the requisite number of tickets, it's a good system. If you can't make it work, though, it will slowly and methodically empty your pockets before you even realize what's happening to you.

          Good luck!

           

          Come, Pinky; we must prepare for tomorrow night...

          Jim

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            Posted: October 25, 2005, 10:42 pm - IP Logged

            As I wrote above, "it plays on the gullibility of those looking to make a quick buck as if there IS such a system that can immediately yield you bucks when playing the lottery which one might infer from title.  Not so, though. Let's delete this thread before someone else makes this seller richer."