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My support for MUSL Hot Lotto has faded

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Posted: February 14, 2006, 1:42 pm - IP Logged

It would seem to me that Mr Strutt and MUSL are aware that some people do not like computerized drawings, and decided to go with "tamper-proof" computers.

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    Posted: February 14, 2006, 3:20 pm - IP Logged

    I bet if MUSL is the creator of "Quantum Vision"  they can not wait to get the states to approve of the switch over to this Radioactive decay RNG.  To try it out on the masses of Powerball.  If so I think I will only play when the jackpot is higher than $147 million and save some money.-weshar75

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      Posted: February 14, 2006, 3:51 pm - IP Logged

      The whole "radioactive decay" thing is ridiculous.  It only addresses one problem out of many.

      There is no way anyone has ever put forward that can address the problem of zero visibility of the drawing process.  After all, what happens to the numbers after the "radioactive decay" has produced them?  Who is to say that a hacker doesn't slip a program in there to ignore the "radioactive" numbers, and substitute their own??

      It may be easier to tamper with a ball machine, but it's much easier to hide tampering with a computer.  A good hacker can insert their code, and have it produce the numbers they want, and then automatically erase itself.  Nobody would even know it was there.

      What do you think a thief would have to offer a programmer who worked on the system to reveal its security weak points?  A million dollars?  Two million?  When the jackpot is $300 million, the bribe can be awfully big.

      The point is why the heck are they doing this??  Are the people at MUSL so tried of setting up the ball machines that they can't go on with life aymore?

       

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        Posted: February 14, 2006, 6:06 pm - IP Logged

        The whole "radioactive decay" thing is ridiculous.  It only addresses one problem out of many.

        There is no way anyone has ever put forward that can address the problem of zero visibility of the drawing process.  After all, what happens to the numbers after the "radioactive decay" has produced them?  Who is to say that a hacker doesn't slip a program in there to ignore the "radioactive" numbers, and substitute their own??

        It may be easier to tamper with a ball machine, but it's much easier to hide tampering with a computer.  A good hacker can insert their code, and have it produce the numbers they want, and then automatically erase itself.  Nobody would even know it was there.

        What do you think a thief would have to offer a programmer who worked on the system to reveal its security weak points?  A million dollars?  Two million?  When the jackpot is $300 million, the bribe can be awfully big.

        The point is why the heck are they doing this??  Are the people at MUSL so tried of setting up the ball machines that they can't go on with life aymore?

        And it's actually pretty easy to hack one of these computers. What if someone who was performing "maintenance" slipped in a disk that, unbeknownst to the security cameras, had a virus instead of the diagnostic software. It's so easy to do, and it would be so easy to get away with.

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          Posted: February 14, 2006, 7:42 pm - IP Logged

          You're absolute right, JS9.

          Of course, the big proponents of computerized drawings would say how they have all these checksum algorithms and security protocols, etc., and nothing of the sort could ever slip by them.

          Yeah, right!  These companies are modest-sized firms, with nowhere near the resources as a big company like Microsoft, Apple, Oracle, etc., and yet those big companies are thwarted by hackers every day.  And you're telling me that some sub-$100 million company can have a better track record than that?

          I tell you, it makes me very suspicious why these lotteries are jumping on the computerized bandwagon.  They must be getting something out of it, and it's not tremedously-lower costs.  There just isn't that big of a difference in cost.  Very suspicious.

           

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            Posted: February 14, 2006, 8:15 pm - IP Logged

            My theory is that state Lotteries and soon Multi-state lotteries what the advantage to munipulate the drawing numbers in their favor so that more revenue streams in.  The good old milking the paying public dry.-weshar75


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              Posted: February 17, 2006, 6:07 pm - IP Logged

              I wished that all games get computerized except for CA SLP, MM, and PB. However, I don't like the computerized drawings manipulate and take advantage of everyone. Computerized drawings may mean that a jackpot winner will occur and less people playing it.


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                Posted: March 3, 2006, 3:13 pm - IP Logged

                Now I hear Kansas is joining Hot Lotto (no confirmation) March 12. After HL goes computerized.