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# Back to Basics (Dice)

Topic closed. 22 replies. Last post 11 years ago by JADELottery.

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It is all a mistake...

PA
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mississippi
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I have said it once..I will say it again and again..and again..THE BIGGEST MISCONCEPTION ABOUT THE LOTTERY IS THAT JUST BECAUSE IT HAS NUMBERS IT MUST BE MATH....maybe Val Kilmer in the Movie Red Planet said it best..maybe its not about the math but about the picture..GOOD LUCK TO ALL OF YOU PEOPLE TRYING TO USE SOME FORM OF THE ORDER OF OPERATIONS TO TRY AND PICK LOTTERY NUMBERS...I WISH YOU THE BEST..LOL..

Zeta Reticuli Star System
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"I just rolled a die 13 times. The first 12 numbers, in order, were 1, 3, 6, 2, 6, 6, 3, 1, 4, 5, 5, and 5.

Using your combinatorics and probability, what was the 13th number?"

The questoin is about the same as betting on which way something shaped like a football is going to bounce. Probabilities are based on millions of decisions.

There is one combination to roll "snake eyes" (1-1) wih a pair of dice. (One single die is called a die, not "dice"). There are 36 possible combinations with two dice. Over the course of millions of rolls, ace-ace or twelve -twelve will have hit once every 36th roll. But that's not how it works in shorter sequences. Someone may roll ace-ace five times in a row, and then not for another one hundred rolls.

Almost every gambling book you read on the game of Blackjack will tell you never take insurance. That too is based on millions of decisions. So you go out and play and your normal bet is \$5 but now for some reason you've got a \$200 bet out and the dealer shows an Ace and asks, "Insurance?"

As the old time Vegas bosses used to say, "When you run a join worry about the percentages. Til then try and catch a streak."

Hint:

One of the best paying off bets on a dice tables is a parlay on a horn bet. 2, 3, 11, and 12 seem to follow each other (A horn bet is all of tem at once). And every book out there would tell you never to bet "the high pc bets in the middle of the layout".

And bear in mind we're talking odds on a pair of dice here, 35:1 being the longest odds on a number showing up.

Lottery odds are millions of times that. There is no predicting at that level, just guessing that some "disguise" at predicting. Pick 3, Pick 4, probably, if one is willing to play more than a buck on a gut hunch and some ciphering. But predicting 5 and 6 numbers out of 35 or more is a fairy tale.

And just food for thought, if there was and anyone knew how, would they be publishibng it and splitting jackpots many ways, or just constantly collecting solo jackpots by themself?

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Before I listen to somebody claiming they know the right way to predict lottery numbers, they have to prove to me they can predict the next roll of the dice.

That's right.  And I'd put a dollar on every dime Bill Gates has (as if I could...wouldn't be on this web site if I did) if there is anybody that can predict the next roll of the dice.

This is all I know about dice:

1. There is a 1 in 6 chance of rolling a one (for example).

2. There is a 1 in 36 chance of rolling a one twice in a row (1:6 X 1:6), etc.

This does not mean that rolling a one on the second roll is less likely to happen just because a one was rolled on first roll.  The odds of getting a one on the second roll are still 1:6.  Each roll is independent of the other rolls.  They cannot be related by mathematics in any way.

If there is anybody out there that disputes this, please point me in the direction of the approved college level text book you used to learn otherwise.

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Zeta Reticuli Star System
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"Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society.  The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute"

Good point. Can we say that the optimists try to come up with a flawles system to beat lotteries and the "pessimists" know when to "use the parachute" and bail out before pursuing that sytem becomes econimic suicide.

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Some good response, however, I think we may have moved away from the original first post.

I'll make comment at a later time.

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