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What if you knew a number was coming

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Posted: April 14, 2006, 3:02 pm - IP Logged

Say you somehow found out on a certain draw at a certain date that a specific number would be drawn, and you knew the order in which the numbers were drawn.  This is for Cash 3 and 4 players.

 

Would you buy as many straight $1.00 tickets as you could before the draw?  If someone bought 25 $1.00 straight tickets 30 minutes before the draw, and they turned out to be a stack of winners, would the lottery get suspicious of the winner?

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    That would be my dream come true. To actually have a gut feeling that would pay off big.

    How much to spend that would depend on several things. Like maybe I'd spend 20 bucks on a p 4 if I had sufficient funds I might go 50 bucks. But I probably wouldn't spend any more than that. Since there is no such thing as a sure bet.

     The lottery doesn't care if you win money.  Lots of people have cashed multiple tickets for pick 3 and 4 games. I know people who consistently bet 50 bucks on pick. Another guy is a heavy pick 4 better and winner. Wins all the time no lottery officials ever gave him a second look he regularly cashes multiple tickets and pays the taxes on the spot.

    Once I met a couple celebrating their anniversary they played that number (date of their anniversary) everywhere they went the bought 1 dollar straight tickets. This couple had a shopping bag full of tickets. when it was all said and done I think they had like 1400 tickets. They won the number straight.

    The lottery was looking for the guy not to question him but because they wanted to make sure he paid the state taxes. Since it's not a requirement to pay the tax on the spot they went through great pains to try and find the guy when he started cashing tickets. They were getting reports of a guy and gal cashing 20 tickets at a time. They cashed the tickets everywhere they could staying one step ahead. As far as I know they never found them. What a great anniversary present they got.  

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      Posted: April 14, 2006, 3:35 pm - IP Logged

      We have several people who win on multiple tickets.. They go store to store cashing them in and do not pay taxes.. How would the lottery commission know that there were one person with 50 tickets or 50 people with one winning?

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        Posted: April 14, 2006, 3:35 pm - IP Logged

        I always think that if they see a number being played alot(50x or more) that they

        would make sure that number doesnt come out. 

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          We have several people who win on multiple tickets.. They go store to store cashing them in and do not pay taxes.. How would the lottery commission know that there were one person with 50 tickets or 50 people with one winning?

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            Posted: April 14, 2006, 3:38 pm - IP Logged

            That would be my dream come true. To actually have a gut feeling that would pay off big.

            How much to spend that would depend on several things. Like maybe I'd spend 20 bucks on a p 4 if I had sufficient funds I might go 50 bucks. But I probably wouldn't spend any more than that. Since there is no such thing as a sure bet.

             The lottery doesn't care if you win money.  Lots of people have cashed multiple tickets for pick 3 and 4 games. I know people who consistently bet 50 bucks on pick. Another guy is a heavy pick 4 better and winner. Wins all the time no lottery officials ever gave him a second look he regularly cashes multiple tickets and pays the taxes on the spot.

            Once I met a couple celebrating their anniversary they played that number (date of their anniversary) everywhere they went the bought 1 dollar straight tickets. This couple had a shopping bag full of tickets. when it was all said and done I think they had like 1400 tickets. They won the number straight.

            The lottery was looking for the guy not to question him but because they wanted to make sure he paid the state taxes. Since it's not a requirement to pay the tax on the spot they went through great pains to try and find the guy when he started cashing tickets. They were getting reports of a guy and gal cashing 20 tickets at a time. They cashed the tickets everywhere they could staying one step ahead. As far as I know they never found them. What a great anniversary present they got.  

            There is something fishy about that story.  Why would the lottery be looking "for the guy"?  There were over 1400 winning tickets spread out over time and distance.  How did the lottery know that 1400 of them were bought by the same person? 

             

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              Posted: April 14, 2006, 3:47 pm - IP Logged

              when they started cashing them word got around, stores with cameras captured there picture. My other guess is the tv stations got wind of it then it became a feisco. The lottery people wanted ther tax due. The couple made it public when they told people what they did.  

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                when they started cashing them word got around, stores with cameras captured there picture. My other guess is the tv stations got wind of it then it became a feisco. The lottery people wanted ther tax due. The couple made it public when they told people what they did.  

                Tax due?  I had to pay taxes on 2 Pick 3 tickets here in California (that was before I got smart on how to buy the tickets).  They were over $600 each, so I had to take them to the lottery office and fill out paperwork and wait for the check in the mail (minus FEDERAL tax).  There is no state tax in California on lottery winnings.  The guy had individual tickets and most states pay $500 for a straight ... no tax due.

                It is a good sounding story, but I don't believe it.

                 

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                  Posted: April 14, 2006, 4:18 pm - IP Logged

                  I wouldn't have believed it either if I hadn't seen the shopping bag full of tickets. Then later heard it one the news that they couple won. When we were sitting at the local water hole. it was about 7pm or so the number goes off at 8pm. I was sitting in the bar when they walked in he told me about them having their anniversary and as soon as they got up that morning they decided they were going to play this number a pick3. Everywhere they went they bought multiple of 20 and 40 tickets straight for a buck all day long until the number was cut off by the lottery. They were at this bar celebrating done buying tickets and having a grand old time. We chatted for bit and I wished them luck and went on my merry way.

                  In Maryland I can cash tickets all day long for 500 bucks and under normal circumstance not set off and alarm but this couple was cashing 20 tickets at a time everywhere they could. Bragging and telling people what they had done. A story like this gets around very fast in this particular neighborhood. I would of cashed some here and there and kept my mouth shut.

                  CDude you don't have to beleive it i know it's true and so do some other old timers in my area.

                   

                     

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                    Posted: April 14, 2006, 4:40 pm - IP Logged

                    Say you somehow found out on a certain draw at a certain date that a specific number would be drawn, and you knew the order in which the numbers were drawn.  This is for Cash 3 and 4 players.

                     

                    Would you buy as many straight $1.00 tickets as you could before the draw?  If someone bought 25 $1.00 straight tickets 30 minutes before the draw, and they turned out to be a stack of winners, would the lottery get suspicious of the winner?

                    This has happened !!! Back in the 1970's in Pennsylvania. I was working as an Industrial Engr in a large machine shop. We always had 5 or 6 bookeys in the plant. Back in those days before the lotteries were started you bet a 3 digit number with the bookey, and the winning number was based on the  take in at a local horse track. Well when the state started running the lottery all of the bookeys started using the state drawn number as their payout number. It was great ,you didn't have to leave the building to buy a ticket , you just went out in the shop and placed your bet.

                    One day a friend says go out in the shop and bet  everything you can afford on 777. So I tried and none of the bookeys on site would take my bet. On my way home that afternoon I stopped at a legit lottery dealer and bought 20 $ 1.00 tickets on 777. That night you guessed it 777 comes up and I'm feeling pretty rich. Remember this had to be 1975, 1976 back in that area. But $10,000 was more than I made in a year. The long and short of the story the lottery system invalidated the drawing and would not pay off on the tickets. I got my $20.00 back but that was it.  Someone had gotten to the ping pong balls with a syringe and injected all of the balls except the 7's with a couple of grams of mercury. Heavy balls went down , light balls went up.

                    This turned out to be a long story but to the point of your question , I only had $23.00 on me that day and I spent $20.00 of it.  

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                      OK before anyone calls me on it,, I went back and checked (remember I'm old and this was 26 years ago.)  It was in 1980, the numbers were 666 , and the guys had painted the balls , I thought I remembered mercury but that's not what the court records shows.

                      Anyway the fix was in and the state would not pay off.  

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                        i would  play  it  about  40 times  st  and  3  wheel  ,  i have  donr  it  a  fewn times  and  won,  a few  yrs  back  i  played  678  in  pa,  and  won  6000 dollars,  and  in  new  jersy  9000 dollars  306,    today  i  had  a  unch  on  992 ,    299  came  out  i  banged    992  10 times  st, no  win,    i did not  even  wheel it  i  was  ignorant, i  only had it  boxed    72.00 dollars. i  always  wheel  a  double  #  but  i  did not,. i chart the  #S  when  i  see  a  good  won  i  go  for  it  and  only  play  one  #  good  luck,  ed