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Posted: July 2, 2006, 10:19 am - IP Logged

If anyone has read any books about roulette,you will find talk about how the dealers,if they are very experienced,can have a great to do with the outcome of what number will come up. I wouldn't have believed it myself until I witnessed it. My sister and I were in a casino that was dead as a doornail. We walked passed the roulette table and the dealer was just standing there and tried to drum up a little business by saying something to us. So we walked over and plunked a couple dollars down on a number. And,what do you know,my number 12 came right up! And the next roll of the ball,wow,my sister's number came right up! What a lucky table! Yeah,right. The "lucky" dealer got tipped and we went on our way.

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    Posted: July 2, 2006, 10:28 am - IP Logged

    @ eddie - yes, I like Diamond Deal as well...

     

    @ lottolaughs - I have heard that too, but I'm not totally convinced. I bet that they could get to a "sector" of the wheel, but not a specific number. I've been playing roulette for a long time, and have developed some good systems, and have interviewed casino personnel and all, and I have brought that question to light many times, and get the same response: "certain part of the wheel, yes, specific number, not so much".

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      Roulette is supposedly one of the worst games in the house. If I play,I only play in casinos and not for very long. It'll eat through your pocketbook fast. Too bad too,because it's one of my favorite games.

      I don't agree. I think it has very good odds in your favor if you use the right tools. In a few days I will be ordering a system that is supposed to give you 4 chances to win and have a 63% chance at each of the 4 attempts to make a profit. As long as you win at anytime during those 4 chances, you make a profit.

      The quote below is from the sales letter.

       

      This is not my business. I own several businesses, including publishing, manufacturing, importing and exporting. Betting systems are my hobby. I sell them on the internet for very little money because I get great fun out of the Email that comes back from the people who use my systems.

      I just bought a new betting system for roulette. Since my hobby is selling betting systems, and I already have a very successful roulette system, I was not too interested when this gentleman approached me with his offer. But, since I am involved in this passtime, I said I would listen carefully.

      Here is the description that he gave me.


      If you had a system that will give you a 63% chance of winning on a single spin of the roulette wheel you would consider that pretty good. Sure. But of course, you don't bet on every number, so no matter what you bet on, you can still lose.

      In case you lost that first bet, if that same system gave you the opportunity to make another bet, 63% in your favor, and if you win the new bet you would still come out a winner over both bets, that would be a pretty good system. But suppose you lost the two bets, each one 63% in your favor. What then?

      Suppose that system gave you another chance to make a bet that was 63% in your favor and if you won, you would come out a winner over all. Suppose you lost three times in a row with bets that each were 63% in your favor.

      Suppose that system gave you another chance to make a bet that was 63% in your favor and if you won, you would still come out a winner over all.

       

      That's what this system does. All you have to do is win one of a set of four plays, each of which is 63% in your favor and you have won money on the set.

      The better news is that you have more than a 63% chance of winning each bet, but I've erred on the conservative side to allow more than the 2 out 36 spins that green would come up. If you play on a singe 0 wheel, your odds are even better.


      GUARANTEE: In order to lose, you would have to lose 4 plays in a row, each of which is better than 63% in your favor. Is it possible to lose? Of course. Is it likely? No. Just average luck will provide you with dependable winnings. My guarantee to you is a complete refund of your purchase price if the system does not perform as stated in this guarantee.

      And, a nice thing about this system is that it does not require keeping notes. You can do it in your head. If you can do sixth grade arithmetic, you can do this without notes. If you can't do any arithmetic, four small numbers written on a piece of paper is all you need to take with you.

      I've designed a small cardboard roulette simulator with which I can play roulette by myself to test various systems. I used it to test this system and played it for six hours straight. Had I been making geniune bets, I would have come out at the end of the session with more than $3,000.00 in winnings.

      I've worried about how much to ask for this system because it cost me a lot to aquire it. But since I expect that if I offer it at a very low price, with a money back guarantee, I should sell so many copies that it will be a good deal for me as well. Of course, I can still use it myself.

      GUARANTEE: In order to lose, you would have to lose 4 plays in a row, each of which is better than 63% in your favor. Is it possible to lose? Of course. Is it likely? No. Just average luck will provide you with dependable winnings. My guarantee to you is a complete refund of your purchase price if the system does not perform as stated in this guarantee.

      This is just a shallow Guarantee. The system will always perform as stated in the guarantee because the system doesn't change.

      On a side note, I hope you didn't spend alot of money on this. It sounds like this was e-mailed to you and sounds pretty shady. If you want a 63% chance of winning on every spin, I'll give you one right now for free. Play either 24 of the 38 inside numbers or play the 1st 12 and 2nd 12 on the outside. Either will provide you with a 63% chance of winning on one spin.

      Sounds like the system you bought is using something like that and if you lose, doubling up using Martingale or something to overcome any losses on previous spins.

      You probably could sit down and think up of better systems than paying even $5 for something like this.

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        Don't know if it's this one or not, but check this out, and read my comments afterward.

        You bet two chips, two units (whatever your standard bet is is your "unit", let's say $1 for this example) on 1 to 18, this pays even mooney, it's an "outside bet".

        You bet one chip, one unit, on the 3rd 12. This pays two to one.

        So you have the following numbers covered; 1 to 18 with the outside bet, and 25 to 36 with the 3rd 12 bet.

        With 0 and 00 there are 38 numbers on a roulette wheel - you have 30 of the 38 going for you, the only thing that can beat you is 0 00 19 20 21 22 23 24. So you have 30 potential winners and 8 potential losers.

        If the 1 to 18 hits, it pays 2 units and you lose 1, the 3rd 12 bet. If the 3rd 12 bet hits, the one unit gets paid two to one - you lose the 1 to 18 bet of one unit but get paid two.

        Sound good so far?  Doesn't sound too bad fro a grind system does it? And if your unit is $5 or $25,  sounds even better.

        KNOW THIS:

        Here's the part I told you to pay attention to - when you win, you win a net gain of 1 unit, when you lose, you lose 3.  If you lose three or four spins in a row you just might not get back that session.

        People have made car payments playing this system and people have got slaughtered playing this system. If you practice good money management and know when to call it a day you might do well with this, but you have to set a loss limit and not chase.

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          Tntea:

          I rarely play roulette, though I watch the games a lot trying to figure out what's going on with the numbers (which doesn't cause the casino management to go wild with joy).

          A couple of things have worked for me, both being coupled with staying off the table except under certain conditions.

          I'm usually at a blackjack table, but I try to pay some attention to what's happening at nearby roulette tables.  When I hear the kinds of noises a roulette table makes when someone's on a roll, I truck over to the roulette table and begin topping the bets of the person who's having the luck.  When his/her roll stops, I go back to blackjack.

          Secondly, if you study the LED column you'll notice there are times when a series of numbers pop up, same as you notice with Pick 3....... 06, 16, 26... that sort of thing.  Sometimes it will repeat several times.  When it's happening with one digit, it will frequently cycle through and allow you to anticipate a number that hit 6 draws ago.

          Doesn't always work, but you can usually tell when it will.

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          It's about number behavior.

          Egos don't count.

           

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            Thanks for the info on those live webcams fella's. It got me looking and I found that live webcam in Hamburg Germany. There are others in Germany that are also actual Real Casino's under Gov. control security.

             It gives me a lot more confidence with a live Webcam working ...... but.... I also really like the idea of it being with a Real Live Casino with a Gov. official overlooking the operation as well. Nice 

            These are old established Casino's with reputations to uphold....not to mention real addresses... LOL  

             Here is one..... Hamburg

            http://www.spielbank-hamburg.de/rechtliches/agbs.html

             

             

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                                          Odds never change .....but probability does. 

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               Well ..... I didn't know that http://www.williamhillcasino.com/  was doing this online.

               Everyone has known who they are for years and years. Hmmmm  .... I don't think this is a webcam broadcast but they certainly have a reputation to uphold however. Listed on the UK stockmarket.

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              The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                            Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                            Odds never change .....but probability does. 

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                Don't know if it's this one or not, but check this out, and read my comments afterward.

                You bet two chips, two units (whatever your standard bet is is your "unit", let's say $1 for this example) on 1 to 18, this pays even mooney, it's an "outside bet".

                You bet one chip, one unit, on the 3rd 12. This pays two to one.

                So you have the following numbers covered; 1 to 18 with the outside bet, and 25 to 36 with the 3rd 12 bet.

                With 0 and 00 there are 38 numbers on a roulette wheel - you have 30 of the 38 going for you, the only thing that can beat you is 0 00 19 20 21 22 23 24. So you have 30 potential winners and 8 potential losers.

                If the 1 to 18 hits, it pays 2 units and you lose 1, the 3rd 12 bet. If the 3rd 12 bet hits, the one unit gets paid two to one - you lose the 1 to 18 bet of one unit but get paid two.

                Sound good so far?  Doesn't sound too bad fro a grind system does it? And if your unit is $5 or $25,  sounds even better.

                KNOW THIS:

                Here's the part I told you to pay attention to - when you win, you win a net gain of 1 unit, when you lose, you lose 3.  If you lose three or four spins in a row you just might not get back that session.

                People have made car payments playing this system and people have got slaughtered playing this system. If you practice good money management and know when to call it a day you might do well with this, but you have to set a loss limit and not chase.

                If 1 to 18 hits it pays even money (1 unit) not 2. So if 1 to 18 hits you break even. So you win 2 units on 12 of 38, tie on 18 of 38, and lose 3 units on 8 of 38.

                Doesn't seem very good to me.

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                  The bet on 1 to 18 is two units, because it pays even, it's an "outside bet". the 3rd 12 pays 2 to 1, so 1 unit is bet there.

                  You layout three units all together. On any win you are + one unit.  

                   Rip Snorter

                   
                  Puttin up those LED reders that track the numbers has increased the drop (money in the box at the end of the shift) by 26%.  

                  "The next spin has to be red, it can't possibly be black again." 

                  Oh yeah?

                   

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                    That is an interesting statistic...but I could believe it for that same reason...8 straight reds...it has to be black! Then a black drops!

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                      I'm not really a roulette player. However, I do watch how they play and see what numbers come up. It's always independent in each round. Sometimes, red comes up many times until a black hits.


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                        I found something even better than the one I posted before. Infact it's the best out there because he's the only one to show his earnings.

                        He asked the top five advertisers of Roulette on the internet to show him their winnings and he received no replies.

                        I will show you his statements without revealing his identity or product.

                        Here it is:

                        Finally, the first book that will truly show you how to make money consistently playing Roulette.

                        Odds, Odds, Oddsxxxxxx is based entirely on odds, not crazy systems that never work. As you search for other roulette websites, remember two very important points that separate my book from the others:

                         

                        #1. Systems don't work. Only odds work. The casinos don't beat you with systems; they beat you with odds. It doesn't matter how good they make it sound; if they call it a system or a strategy, don't buy it.

                        #2. I am the only author that can show you proof of my winnings from major casinos (in writing on their letterhead). I have tried to contact the top 5 system sellers located on the top search engines. I asked each to show me proof of their winnings ... anything, just one major casino. I have received zero responses. That speaks volumes, and separates the real from the fake.

                         It's an informative, easy-to-read book on us vs. them, methods vs. systems, and boldly telling the world for the first time, “Systems Don’t Work!” Then telling you exactly what works and how to do it.

                         

                        After years of research, reading as many books and playing many different systems, the author knows first hand what works and what does not work.   There is no system that works consistently, not the ASIAN SYSTEMS, not the LUDICA SYSTEM, not the CASINO BUSTER SYSTEM, not KANZEN'S SYSTEM, not ROULETTE SYSTEM SECRETS, not PATTERN SYSTEMS, NONE of these  systems work consistently.

                         

                        The XXXXXXXX method was designed for the conservative player or the highest of rollers. You need to have a minimum of only 15 units bankroll, although 30 to 45 units is optimum, with an average win of 3 to 4 units per hour. Low stress, low risk.  Look at the win chart below to see where you fit in. It doesn’t matter if you are conservative or aggressive.

                         

                        Starting Unit

                        Yield Per Hour

                        $10

                        $30 - $40

                        $25

                        $75 - $100

                        $50

                        $150 - $200

                        $100

                        $300 - $400

                        $250

                        $750 - $1,000

                        $500

                        $1,500 - $2,000

                        $1,000

                        $3,000 - $4,000

                         

                        There are many different systems on the market and none of them work. When I say they don't work, I mean none work consistently. None! Why don't they work? Well, it took me a while to realize "systems" do the same thing over and over again. Of course, you're going to bust out if every time a certain thing lines up you react with a mechanical bet. Playing a system that does the same exact thing every time a certain situation occurs makes you a sitting duck! You're the one the wheel finds predictable. You need the opposite to happen. Instead of the wheel finding you or your system predictable, you need to make the wheel predictable. You ask, "How do I do that?" I'll tell you, by playing odds! By using our method of play, you will not be a repetitive sitting duck.

                        Fact: Each spin of the wheel is a consistent, independent  true random spin, so we created easy-to-use score sheets with odds enhancing templates along with two other main ingredients to complete the xxxxxxxx Method”. When you see the Win Atmosphere it creates, you’ll be  like a kid in a candy store. Adhering to our easy rules and the odds of betting, you’ll be a consistent winner, no matter what kind of spin is dealt. No more guessing trying to follow patterns that do not repeat when you want them to.

                         

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                          If you play at a casino using an american wheel which has 0 and 00 try playing the 10th number in front of the last number spun and the 10th number behind along with the numbers on each side

                          it works for me ALMOST everytime...the next time you are at a live wheel watch and chart to see where the dealer is landing from the previous spin...

                          the odds are 35:1 straight up on one number

                           

                           

                          good luck