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Honduras
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Guys, excuse me for this, but i speculate that lotterywheels don't tell you the entire truth. If you look very careful, and you analyze the wheels that they got, you will see that there are discrepancies, stuff that don't add up. I am not going to go into details, but just to mention that he got some wheels for pick5 that offer 3 of 5 matches, and wheels for pick6 that offer 3 or 6 matches for different prize, and offereing different sets, they are the same size, but the wheels for pick5 you have to pay more sets, than the wheels for pick6, and i wonder how can this be, since "the laws of wheeling" tell you that the more numbers a lottery has the more sets it requires for it to be wheel. It should take more sets to wheel pick6, than pick5, it should take more sets to wheel pick7 than pick6, and so forth (the dimensions are wider). That's just "ONE" of the some of inconsistencies that i see in their wheels on their websites. And i am not a wheel/combination mathematician. You might see it if you pay very, very close attention to them..Something to think about..Not just lotterywheels but any place claims to have the hottest lottery wheels...

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    Guys, excuse me for this, but i speculate that lotterywheels don't tell you the entire truth. If you look very careful, and you analyze the wheels that they got, you will see that there are discrepancies, stuff that don't add up. I am not going to go into details, but just to mention that he got some wheels for pick5 that offer 3 of 5 matches, and wheels for pick6 that offer 3 or 6 matches for different prize, and offereing different sets, they are the same size, but the wheels for pick5 you have to pay more sets, than the wheels for pick6, and i wonder how can this be, since "the laws of wheeling" tell you that the more numbers a lottery has the more sets it requires for it to be wheel. It should take more sets to wheel pick6, than pick5, it should take more sets to wheel pick7 than pick6, and so forth (the dimensions are wider). That's just "ONE" of the some of inconsistencies that i see in their wheels on their websites. And i am not a wheel/combination mathematician. You might see it if you pay very, very close attention to them..Something to think about..Not just lotterywheels but any place claims to have the hottest lottery wheels...

    It depends on the guarantee and how many numbers you want to play, not the width of the lotto.

    For instance,

    A Pick 4 wheel using 10 numbers and a guarantee of 3 if 3 would require 30 tickets.

    A Pick 5 wheel using 10 numbers and a guarantee of 3 if 3 would require 18 tickets.

    The wheels here on LP are the best I have found.  There are other sites that have lots of wheels and I have 3 different programs that generate wheels, but there are no better wheels than you will find here.

     

     

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      Posted: May 24, 2006, 3:05 am - IP Logged

      I think I should have said "...not only the width."

       

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        Posted: May 24, 2006, 9:38 am - IP Logged
        Pumpi76 the thing about wheels is not just the amount of tickets you need to win the 3/4/5 if of's it's the numbers you input. If the input numbers are not drawn the wheel is worthless and a wheel which contains many numbers could generate upwards of 250 tickets.

        An experienced wheel user has figured out and determined his size wheel he/she might prefer one which works better than others. One also might have a large wheel he/she saves up for.

        In pick 5 games Some wheels are set up to cover all the different type possibilities like 3 even 2 odd---- 3odd and 2 even---------4 odd 1 even and 1 odd and 4 even and so on. 5 odd, 5 even.

        Sometimes pick 5 wheels work best around the middle of the month for people who work with the numbers from the beginning of the month. By the middle of the month close to half the numbers if not more have already been drawn. An opportunity opens up to start making wheels using the hot numbers with the numbers that haven't been drawn.

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          Posted: May 24, 2006, 9:57 am - IP Logged

          pumpi76,

          Where did you read about "the laws of wheeling"?  If you want to check the coverage of a lottery wheel get a copy of CoverMaster.  Good luck to you.

           * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
             
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            Posted: May 24, 2006, 12:22 pm - IP Logged

            guys, when i say wheels for pick4, i don't mean regular pick4, i mean pick4 1-35/39...

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              Posted: May 24, 2006, 9:10 pm - IP Logged

              Pumpi76, Gail Howard in her books describes and defines wheels extensively, especially about minimum win guarantees; you might find it helpful to get a better background about wheels, which to use, what "guarantees" mean, etc.

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                It might help to remember a 3# prize is third prize in Pick-5 and forth prize in Pick-6. 

                It takes more lines to guarantee a third prize then a forth.

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                  Posted: May 26, 2006, 12:15 pm - IP Logged

                  BobP you said:
                  "It might help to remember a 3# prize is third prize in Pick-5 and forth prize in Pick-6. "

                  so if what yo usay is right, it should take less numbers to wheel/weave a 3of 4 in a pick4, (1-35)  than a 3of 5 in pick5 wheel.  Is that right? If that's right, then it should take less combinations to wheel a 4of 4 in a pick4, (1-35) than a 4of 5 in a pick5? Is that correct or not?

                   

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                    Posted: May 26, 2006, 2:06 pm - IP Logged

                    BobP you said:
                    "It might help to remember a 3# prize is third prize in Pick-5 and forth prize in Pick-6. "

                    so if what yo usay is right, it should take less numbers to wheel/weave a 3of 4 in a pick4, (1-35)  than a 3of 5 in pick5 wheel.  Is that right? If that's right, then it should take less combinations to wheel a 4of 4 in a pick4, (1-35) than a 4of 5 in a pick5? Is that correct or not?

                     

                    Oposite consider a 12 number lottery. Wheeling to guarantee a 3# prize.

                    Pick-4/12  (12,4,3,4)=27 or 3if4of4in12numbers27combinations

                     1  2  4  6
                     1  2  8 11
                     1  3  5  7
                     1  3  8 11
                     1  3 10 12
                     1  4  8  9
                     1  5  8 12
                     1  5  9 10
                     1  6  7 12
                     1  6  8 11
                     2  3  4  9
                     2  3  6 11
                     2  4  5 12
                     2  5  7 10
                     2  6  8 10
                     2  7  9 12
                     3  4  6  9
                     3  5  6 10
                     3  5  8 10
                     3  7  8 12
                     4  5  7 11
                     4  7  8 10
                     4 10 11 12
                     5  6  8  9
                     5  9 11 12
                     6  8  9 12
                     7  9 10 11

                    Pick-5/12  (12,5,3,5)= 7 or 3if5of5in12numbers7combinations

                     1  2  6 11 12
                     1  3  6  9 12
                     1  5  8  9 10
                     2  3  7  9 11
                     2  4  5  8 11
                     3  4  5 10 12
                     4  6  7  8 10

                    Pick-6/12  (12,6,3,6)=2 or  3if6of6in12numbers2combinations

                    1 2 3 4 5 6
                    7 8 9 10 11 12

                    The more numbers in the line, the fewer lines it takes to make the guarantee.

                    Takes a bit to get one's head around all this.  The more wheels you make the sooner you will come to understand how it works.  BobP