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Where should it be available?

In all MM states

[ 16 ]

[ 53.3% ]

All except CA (pari-mutuel)

[ 6 ]

[ 20.0% ]

Texas only

[ 2 ]

[ 6.7% ]

Nowhere

[ 6 ]

[ 20.0% ]

Total valid votes

[ 30 ]

Discarded votes

[ 4 ]

CASH Only

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May 24, 2006, 11:46 am

When Texas joined Mega Millions it 2003, it was allowed to use a non-jackpot multiplier similar to Powerball's PowerPlay. No other MM states have the Megaplier. One idea might be to extend the Megaplier throughout MM except in California, which has pari-mutuel lower-tier MM prizes.
RJOh

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May 24, 2006, 2:41 pm

I assume all the MegaMillions states have the option of having a side bet or another game on their MM cards as Ohio has its KICKER game on its MM card. The KICKER has its own drawing as does the Texas Megaplier.
Since all prizes except the jackpots are paid out of local ticket sales, there's enough confusion with California having its own pari-mutuel rules for the lower tier prizes with out more states coming up with their own rules for the same game. If all states can't abide by the same rules, it better not to have the Megaplier as part of the basic game.

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May 25, 2006, 1:49 am

I have never been a fan of paying more for second place. Only time I paid more was when WA state had a promo where you could double the jackpot (if you won) for an extra buck. That seemed worth it. In Powerball it would really be worth it considering the already low cash payout.
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May 25, 2006, 6:22 am

i don't understand why powerball can have powerplay but mega millions can't have a multiplier.is it the population of the states?
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May 26, 2006, 12:26 pm

My vote is for all states except for CA for MM Megaplier. CA prizes are pari-mutuel. CA can have a possible $1+ million winner with 5/5 if no one keeps matching 5/5.
ryanm

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May 26, 2006, 3:14 pm

Quote: Originally posted by LOTTOMIKE on May 25, 2006
i don't understand why powerball can have powerplay but mega millions can't have a multiplier.is it the population of the states?
That's probably because with California having pari-mutuel prize payouts, it would cause too much confusion.
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May 27, 2006, 7:41 am

The multiplier is a bad bet.
I would never dream of playing it. It would be better, at least when the jackpot is large, simply to play more tickets.
Once the jackpot gets quite high, the lottery can have expectation values (the potential return on the money risk) that are pretax close to 1.00. The multiplier, if I have understood how it might work for MM, raises the lower value expectation from 0.18 to a little over 0.25. It's great business for the lottery, but not for the player.
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May 30, 2006, 5:04 pm

I think they shoud just include it in all the MM states.
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May 30, 2006, 5:11 pm

Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on May 24, 2006
I assume all the MegaMillions states have the option of having a side bet or another game on their MM cards as Ohio has its KICKER game on its MM card. The KICKER has its own drawing as does the Texas Megaplier.
Since all prizes except the jackpots are paid out of local ticket sales, there's enough confusion with California having its own pari-mutuel rules for the lower tier prizes with out more states coming up with their own rules for the same game. If all states can't abide by the same rules, it better not to have the Megaplier as part of the basic game.
Actually, TX and OH are the only states to offer a side bet.

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May 31, 2006, 10:30 am

Quote: Originally posted by DoctorEw220 on May 30, 2006
Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on May 24, 2006
I assume all the MegaMillions states have the option of having a side bet or another game on their MM cards as Ohio has its KICKER game on its MM card. The KICKER has its own drawing as does the Texas Megaplier.
Since all prizes except the jackpots are paid out of local ticket sales, there's enough confusion with California having its own pari-mutuel rules for the lower tier prizes with out more states coming up with their own rules for the same game. If all states can't abide by the same rules, it better not to have the Megaplier as part of the basic game.
Actually, TX and OH are the only states to offer a side bet.
The Texas Megaplier is related to MM. Ohio Kicker is not (it was an add-on to Super Lotto Plus before it was retired).
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May 31, 2006, 12:19 pm

Quote: Originally posted by CASH Only on May 31, 2006
Quote: Originally posted by DoctorEw220 on May 30, 2006
Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on May 24, 2006
I assume all the MegaMillions states have the option of having a side bet or another game on their MM cards as Ohio has its KICKER game on its MM card. The KICKER has its own drawing as does the Texas Megaplier.
Since all prizes except the jackpots are paid out of local ticket sales, there's enough confusion with California having its own pari-mutuel rules for the lower tier prizes with out more states coming up with their own rules for the same game. If all states can't abide by the same rules, it better not to have the Megaplier as part of the basic game.
Actually, TX and OH are the only states to offer a side bet.
The Texas Megaplier is related to MM. Ohio Kicker is not (it was an add-on to Super Lotto Plus before it was retired).
Yes, but you have to play MegaMillions to have any chance of playing the KICKER game. My point was that since each state created their own side game and paid prizes out of local sales, any game in one of the other state with a similar name might create more confusions. Besides,Texas probably owns the name Megaplier and would probably want royalties if any other state used it.

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Jun 1, 2006, 10:08 am

Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on May 31, 2006
Quote: Originally posted by CASH Only on May 31, 2006
Quote: Originally posted by DoctorEw220 on May 30, 2006
Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on May 24, 2006
I assume all the MegaMillions states have the option of having a side bet or another game on their MM cards as Ohio has its KICKER game on its MM card. The KICKER has its own drawing as does the Texas Megaplier.
Since all prizes except the jackpots are paid out of local ticket sales, there's enough confusion with California having its own pari-mutuel rules for the lower tier prizes with out more states coming up with their own rules for the same game. If all states can't abide by the same rules, it better not to have the Megaplier as part of the basic game.
Actually, TX and OH are the only states to offer a side bet.
The Texas Megaplier is related to MM. Ohio Kicker is not (it was an add-on to Super Lotto Plus before it was retired).
Yes, but you have to play MegaMillions to have any chance of playing the KICKER game. My point was that since each state created their own side game and paid prizes out of local sales, any game in one of the other state with a similar name might create more confusions. Besides,Texas probably owns the name Megaplier and would probably want royalties if any other state used it.
KICKER should be a stand-alone game, or be retired. For some reason, Canada has many add-on opportunities.
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Jun 3, 2006, 1:24 am

If Mega is going to change something how about a change that generates larger pots. The jackpot drives sales. It's as simple as that. If you look at a high jackpot there are high sales associated with it. Mega didn't even hit 50 this time. They should have had the matrix slightly higher than it is now.
LOTTOMIKE

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Jun 3, 2006, 1:31 am

anyone hear anything on the new game talked about between mega and powerball here a while back?
ryanm

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Jun 3, 2006, 1:43 am

Oh geez, Mega Millions and Powerball should not combine or national lottery, here we come!!

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