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# Fantasy 5 System

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Wisconsin
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 Posted: June 2, 2006, 6:50 pm - IP Logged

OK,Badger,now I understand what you were saying before. I'm calling it wrong, "lines" instead of "strings". I wasn't sure what to call it.  Thanks for clearing me up on that. "Strings" sounds better. You'll have to forgive me if I haven't got all the lingo down yet. I took another look at the post you sent before, how you were only halfway through the 8 numbers and you already had 14 numbers. Using the new formulas I gave you your numbers should look like this:

(I am using your current last 2 drawings) 6 9 12 14 19 20 22 28

6 7 9 10 12 13 14 15 19 20 21 22 23 28 29  (S+1)  = 15 numbers

5 6 8 9 11 12 13 14 18 19 20 21 22 27 28  (-1 S)  = 15 numbers

7 8 10 11 13 14 15 16 20 21 22 23 24 29 30  (+1+2)  = 15 numbers

6 8 9 11 12 14 16 19 20 21 22 24 28 30        (S +2)  = 14 numbers

4 6 7 9 10 12 14 17 18 19 20 22 26 28          (-2 S)  = 14 numbers

I don't know where you were coming up with all those numbers, hopefully this will help you out.

To answer your other question about how I get my lines from all the strings I'm producing,well,dear Badger, that's the 2nd part of my system that I am working on as we speak. Maybe I'm a little premature with this but I thought at least I could try and help people eliminate some numbers from their own systems while I was working on the bigger picture. And since my little formula or whatever you want to call it continues to show results I thought I'd just share it.  But like I said, I'm not sure how this will work in other states besides California and I'm hoping whoever goes to try it in other states will paper test it first for awhile before spending real money.

THen I'm still not understanding. Referring to what you have written above, in part, you state:

I am using your current last 2 drawings) 6 9 12 14 19 20 22 28

6 7 9 10 12 13 14 15 19 20 21 22 23 28 29  (S+1)  = 15 numbers

5 6 8 9 11 12 13 14 18 19 20 21 22 27 28  (-1 S)  = 15 numbers

7 8 10 11 13 14 15 16 20 21 22 23 24 29 30  (+1+2)  = 15 numbers

6 8 9 11 12 14 16 19 20 21 22 24 28 30        (S +2)  = 14 numbers

4 6 7 9 10 12 14 17 18 19 20 22 26 28          (-2 S)  = 14 numbers

Okay. That's five strings of numbers that you have obtained from applying each of the steps (i.e. S+1, etc) to each of the eight numbers that were not duplicates using the past two drawings. What are you supposed to do...choose one string that is produced and use the numbers in that string to make your lines? Or, (because there are a lot of duplicates in the above five strings) are you supposed to eliminate all duplicates in the five strings and combine them into one string and use that to make your lines?

If you end up with fifteen numbers in a 5/31 game, then you should statistically expect to have 2 to 3 of those numbers "hit" in the following drawing (since 15 numbers is 48.3% of all numbers in the game). You should be getting that same amount (2 to 3 of the numbers) from picking any fifteen numbers. That would just be an expected "hit" total for that many numbers.

The real important decider is knowing which of the 15 numbers will hit and should be used. Otherwise, just wheeling the fifteen numbers will be no worse than wheeling any other fifteen numbers. But playing an entire wheel of fifteen numbers is not practical. You will enventually  lose your shirt.

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Sunny California
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 Posted: June 2, 2006, 7:18 pm - IP Logged

Good points,Badger,I'm glad you're here today,because you're bringing up a lot of good questions. I have done extensive testing on the strings of numbers I come up with compared with just a random set of 15 and I found that mine actually had more hits. Coincidence? I don't know. These are all things you yourself can test if you really decide to dig in deeper into this. You would have to do a lot of backtesting for YOUR particular game to see how this works out just as I've done with the California game here. I know it's a lot of strings you have to choose from and, again,that's up to you to decide if you want to choose just one string  or play a few lines from each. I wouldn't suggest taking out the duplicates and making one line, it would be too many numbers. Here in Cali most of the winning numbers will appear in the S+1+2 and the +1+2+3 lines. Maybe it will be the same for your game. I wouldn't have bothered putting this on here if I found random numbers gave me the same chance as my own. I'm glad you brought that up. That's what I felt was unique about this and why I thought I would share it with the rest of you. If you are going to pursue this I would try to pay attention to which string of numbers the winners are coming from and play that string more often. It's something you just kind of have to stick with and keep testing because I think you just might be surprised at how it plays out.

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L.A. Ca.
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 Posted: June 3, 2006, 11:06 pm - IP Logged

Thanks lottolaughs I'am still going over your system I have faith it will work. Have you heard of the pick 5 system on e-bay for 9.95. It selects number's that pop up within 20 days.

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 Posted: June 3, 2006, 11:21 pm - IP Logged

Haven't heard of that one,Real Deal,I'll check it out. It must be new? I usually check out the systems they have on e-bay but haven't in awhile. I've been too busy with my own, I guess.   Haven't had much luck with buying other people's systems. They just never seem to work for me. Thanks for your faith in my system. That means a lot to me. I waited a very long time and tested it over and over for more than 2 years before I posted it on here. I sure hope it works for you!!! Keep me posted,please. Thanks so much.

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 Posted: June 14, 2006, 2:49 pm - IP Logged

lottolaughs

Texas cash five has numbers 1 to 37.

can you send me the formula that will work? thanks

Sunny California
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 Posted: June 14, 2006, 6:05 pm - IP Logged

Winner1313, PM'ed you the details. Thanks for your interest!

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FT MYERS
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 Posted: June 15, 2006, 10:33 am - IP Logged

Lottolaughs,

your system proves well here in florida, I have set up a spreadsheet in excel with each formula, still have to manually key in the numbers but its a short cut to getting the number, the strings here produce 16-23 numberline with good hits, back testing for about a month of drawing, still working on how to elimate more numbers if possible, any suggestions?????

Sunny California
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 Posted: June 15, 2006, 11:35 am - IP Logged

Hello there,YTROGER,

Thanks for your interest! Glad to hear it is working well in Florida. It seems to be working pretty well in most states.

As far as eliminating more numbers ,someone suggested taking out all the numbers from the 2 drawings in each string. That is a good idea in theory but more often than not,these repeat numbers will show up in the next 10 drawings. It's a little risky BUT if there is a number or two in your 2 drawings that has already repeated say,3,4 or 5 times in the previous drawings I might eliminate those. Every number helps,of course. Or you can use my abbreviated system as you may have seen in this thread. The shortened formulas are:

(S+1)

(-1 S)

(-2 S)

(S+2)

(+1+2)

Try backtesting to see how these fare. They still will produce hits in the strings,just not as many,of course, because we're lowering our field.

Or try sticking to just the (S +1 +2) and (+1+2+3) formulas because these seem to produce most of the winners. Concentrate on those 2 strings the most.

Since each state has its own unique set of drawings,this system will have to be tailored with wheels to fit each state. I'm realizing more about this as I go along. This is just a piece of the puzzle. I will keep updating as I find out more.

Hope this helps!

Zeta Reticuli Star System
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 Posted: June 17, 2006, 6:14 pm - IP Logged

Sir Metro,

From your example on page 1 here:

03-09-20-14-32

03-25-28-30-32 <---Last

07-09-11-14-36 <--Subtract

05-17-20-22-34 <--Average

05-09-28-14-34

The third digit in the Last, 28, + the third digit in the subtract, added is 39 and you gave 20 for average, so do you always round up to even so it's divisible by 2? I'm guessing that's what you did....

Then you go "down and up the stairs" in a V, (and then put those numbers in order?)

I like working with numbers to dope out lotto picks and this one has me mesmerized!

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