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would you still play if your state went from balls to computer draws

yes i would still play

[ 13 ]

[ 48.2% ]

no i would quit

[ 9 ]

[ 33.3% ]

not sure

[ 5 ]

[ 18.5% ]

Total valid votes

[ 27 ]

Discarded votes

[ 5 ]

LOTTOMIKE

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Jun 3, 2006, 3:00 pm

if your state switched from ball drawings to computerized draws would you still play?
LOTTOMIKE

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Jun 3, 2006, 3:02 pm

i might play online if my state switched but not at the store.that way they couldn't track my selections.be interesting to see if it would work.
bellyache

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Jun 3, 2006, 3:04 pm

A couple of my state games are computerized and I already play them, so I guess I would.
pumpi76

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Jun 3, 2006, 4:57 pm

definately, i would play. This way they wouldn't have to "pretest" the machine over and over, if that's the case..Question though. Why everybody hates computerized drawing? what's the difference?

"Keno is "el diablo cazador the hombres".......it kills people and you can't even see it...... ....from movie "Predator".....
JAP69

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Jun 3, 2006, 5:51 pm

I would still play.
With the seeable patterns that are shown here at lottery post Maybe I could kick butt in a computerized game.

Numbers are where you find them.
Bryan

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Jun 3, 2006, 6:41 pm

Quote: Originally posted by pumpi76 on June 3, 2006
definately, i would play. This way they wouldn't have to "pretest" the machine over and over, if that's the case..Question though. Why everybody hates computerized drawing? what's the difference?

"Keno is "el diablo cazador the hombres".......it kills people and you can't even see it...... ....from movie "Predator".....
Pumpi,
They continue to pretest all the time with computerized games too. To make sure the numbers generated still fall under their random guidelines. So, you would not be getting away from that anyway.
Most, but not all, ball drawn games tend to flow and even out more (a better balance) than computerized games. To this day, I'm still much better at picking ball drawn games than computerized and we have been computerized for over 2 years now. The perfect example of the computerized BS is what is happening in MO right now. Take a look...
https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/135632
And if you haven't guessed it, the 3 picks since I posted that have all been doubles. Yeah, that is random...
Don't get me wrong, I am trying like crazy to exploit the crazy thing but I haven't figured it out yet.
Bryan :)
pumpi76

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Jun 4, 2006, 12:03 am

Bryan, sorry but i only analyze pick3 games that play "once" a day. When they play twice a day, i believe they are harder. Plus they are confusing to me when they play twice for some reason i can't think straight. What i wish they did, was if they could bring a machine that will resemble a squared or cylindrical candy gumball machine..
Here is an example of a cylindrical gumball machine:http://www.antiquegumball.com/contemp/index.htm
Presently the machine for pick3 in ga looks like a ball globe beaver gumball machine: http://www.beavervending.com/product-catalog/gumball-and-candy-machines/index.cfm?c=115&i=240
Here is what a square gumball machine looks like: http://www.antiquegumball.com/religious/index.htm
Having the sides squared/flat will give the balls less room to collide. I believe it will make previous numbers come up more often..
Not only that, but the size of the balls determines how random a game is too. If the balls are bigger less time it will take them to collide, when juggling/bouncing. If the balls are smaller more time it will take them to collide when juggling/bouncing..I said computerized because i believe is better than ga's pick3 machine, but is not my primary choice..

What i can see on the pick4 example you gave me was that 1 or 2 numbers will repeat on the following draw (except for 2 times)(from evening to midday and from midday to evening)...
I feel that there should be pick3 [with squared or cylindrical machine] that pays 6-way box payout of $20, $35, $60, $80...Each one cost different of course...
on the link excerpt you gave, i noticed that 25 times out of 30, the numbers
will repeat (you see i am sleepy so i could have the data wrong), and 12 times of the 30, the number tha repeated will be a double within that draw..
men! if most pick3 in your state are double, lucky you you got it made: )..I suggest you take advantage of it before they start to change..Like 7 years ago, i don't remember which state it was but it was one of those states in the northern midwest it could have been MN, Iowa [i get them all confused]. I noticed that their daily pick4 the numbers most of the time will not repeat, i just thought how lucky. Don't know if it was a trend or what, it could've been long gone by now.

You don't need to test a computer. A computer is failure-proof. I don't understand...
Rip Snorter

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Jun 4, 2006, 1:04 pm

Quote: Originally posted by pumpi76 on June 3, 2006
definately, i would play. This way they wouldn't have to "pretest" the machine over and over, if that's the case..Question though. Why everybody hates computerized drawing? what's the difference?

"Keno is "el diablo cazador the hombres".......it kills people and you can't even see it...... ....from movie "Predator".....
My impression is that most people dislike RNG draws because there's no recognizeable event associated with the draws. There's no reason to suspect the computer they point at accusing it of generating the numbers had anything to do with the numbers they accuse of winning.
There's no reason, even, to suspect any RNG machine exists. Maybe that box they're calling an RNG machine is just an old 286 they threw out when 386s came along, sitting there making futuristic noises and biding its time until the people present for the 'draw' dig the winning numbers out of their pockets or read them written on their handkerchiefs or between their fingers.
Balls mightn't be honest, but they have the advantage of being larger than electrons. It's easier to spot a crack or a bowling ball in with them.
Jack

Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.
It's about number behavior.
Egos don't count.

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Rip Snorter

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Jun 4, 2006, 1:07 pm

Mike:
New Mexico's RNG. I played it a lot of times while I was coming to the decision to play it no more forever.
The reasons I quit are listed in the previous post. I'd feel the same if it were any other state.
Jack

Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.
It's about number behavior.
Egos don't count.

Dedicated to the memory of Big Loooser
justxploring

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Jun 4, 2006, 1:27 pm

You don't need to test a computer. A computer is failure-proof. I don't understand... pumpi76
Where do they sell these failure-proof computers? I want one!!
emilyg

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Jun 4, 2006, 1:29 pm

Quote: Originally posted by justxploring on June 4, 2006
You don't need to test a computer. A computer is failure-proof. I don't understand... pumpi76
Where do they sell these failure-proof computers? I want one!!

same here -

love to nibble those micey feet.
konane

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Jun 4, 2006, 1:35 pm

Ball drop drawings offer complete disclosure to the public, the transparency of which lotteries owe to the public since they function as an arm of state governments and serve the public interest in some capacity.
There is nothing transparent about a drawing happening behind closed doors where the results magically show up on tv as a computer animation as if being drawn.
There has been an ongoing discussion on LP about discrepancies regarding the Hoosier lottery computer drawings, the play of certain number combinations being disallowed, also issues with drawing results, etc. It seems to be the poster child for not playing any RNG drawing.
With RNG's who really knows what happens behind closed doors?? I for one am not willing to pay to find out.

Have fun and the best of luck to everyone!
Rip Snorter

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Jun 4, 2006, 1:37 pm

Quote: Originally posted by justxploring on June 4, 2006
You don't need to test a computer. A computer is failure-proof. I don't understand... pumpi76
Where do they sell these failure-proof computers? I want one!!

If the definition of 'failure-proof' is, 'failure can't be detected by anyone who isn't employed by the lottery commission', the states have a lot of them.
One of the mid-west states had a failure-proof computer a while back that generated the same numbers for several days before anyone noticed it hadn't failed to do so. Shortly thereafter they fixed it so's it wouldn't not fail another day in a row.
I've got a failure proof computer back in the workshop. Been sitting there several years, not being plugged in while I've waited for a time I might have occasion to cannibalize parts from it. If I remember correctly the hard-drive went out and made it failure proof.
Jack

Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.
It's about number behavior.
Egos don't count.

Dedicated to the memory of Big Loooser
carlacarla

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Jun 4, 2006, 8:06 pm

Hi this is my first post. Does anyone know if Washington State has computerized drawings? I emailed them and asked them why the drawings are not televised and they responded because it was too expensive and I was unhappy about that. I just recently started playing on a regular basis.

I would prefer the balls because I think computers can be cracked and rngs can be influenced. I think balls being 3 dimensional objects floating through space are fairer to all lottery players.
Bryan

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Jun 4, 2006, 8:17 pm

Quote: Originally posted by carlacarla on June 4, 2006
Hi this is my first post. Does anyone know if Washington State has computerized drawings? I emailed them and asked them why the drawings are not televised and they responded because it was too expensive and I was unhappy about that. I just recently started playing on a regular basis.

I would prefer the balls because I think computers can be cracked and rngs can be influenced. I think balls being 3 dimensional objects floating through space are fairer to all lottery players.
Welcome aboard,
It's all RNG except MM.
Sorry to be the bearer of Bad news,
Bryan :)

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