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# Pick4 number creator - using pick3 numbers

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Quick question:

I tried to understand the logic... and I do not understand why those combinations were not generated (from the example on the picture):

6640

6644

/Derek7

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Thanks Ricky.

Can someone provide instructions on where the numbers in the yellow box come from??

908 - 646 - 416

690086846641

408 you can put anything here!!!!!!!!!

146

If someone would be nice and provide an example from the state they play and how to generate combinations combinations to play.

Thanks!!!

winsum, I think this is a program you can get creative with....it's not meant to be a predictor per se. You enter three-digit combos (try 'em from your state, enter as many as you want, up to 1000 characters, I believe) and see what P4 combos it generates. Then see how it does in the drawings after that in the P4.

I think its more meant to be a tool for you to try different things with.  Paurths isn't claiming anything, and certainly not that it hits the winning combos each day.  Heck, you can try anything....For instance, use Duke to generate a bunch of P3 combos, then put them in this program. See what happens.

Play around. I think that's what it's for...

first, to everyone, you're all very welcome lol

This is indeed just a tool, no more than that, that will create pick4-numbers (box/combo-format) using pick3 numbers (which it will turn into box/combo-format).
There are 2 requirements before any pick4 number can be created:
- you must enter/paste numbers into the yellow textbox lol
- the combo's must have matching pairs.

Steve (winsum): the data in the yellow textbox in the example is just rubbish lol, it is to show that you can pretty much enter the numbers in any way, use any character between them or inbetween them, it all does not matter. If you are entering numbers and your kid decides to knock on your keyboard, just move on entering the next pick3's, the parser will ignore any character that is not a numeric value.

Matching pairs: The second requirement is that the pick3-numbers have matching pairs, otherwise no pick4 number will be created. One matching digit is not enough. 231 and 345 will not create any pick4 number using this tool, 231 and 341 will b/c 1 and 3 is a pairmatch between both pick3-combo's. The tool will then create 1234.
If you use the same number twice, example: 123 and 231 the tool will create 3 different pick4 numbers, b/c it finds 3 matching pairs: 12, 13 and 23, resulting in 1123, 1223 and 1233. (that is if you leave the checkbox "Remove duplicate pick3-numbers" unchecked. Otherwise the parser will ignore any other occurance of 123 and just use it once in the creation.)

What it is for:
- you can not eat it lol (well, perhaps you can if you put it on a USB-memory-stick and happen to love to have those for lunch ;-)
- It will not predict anything on its own. The output will be the result of your input. (you can press the "create pick4-numbers" till the end of time, if you don't input any pick3-numbers with matching pairs, the tool will ignore your key-presses, also until the end of time ;-)
- tntea uses it to input whatever The - excellent - Duke spits out (worked in TN eve, seen this happen) --> well, perhaps tntea uses it also for some other method, we all know she is most creative of thinking out new ways
- i have done some playing around in entering one months pick3-results, make it create pick4-numbers and check those on the following month in the same state (in pick4, obviously)

In fact, this tool is only any use if you happen to have some pick3-numbers lying around and decide to see if they have matching pairs lol

Greetz
Ricky

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Quick question:

I tried to understand the logic... and I do not understand why those combinations were not generated (from the example on the picture):

6640

6644

/Derek7

Hi derek7,

this was the input:
908 - 646 - 416

690086846641

408 you can put anything here!!!!!!!!!

146

--> it is a mess, just to show that you can input the pick3 numbers just the way you like.

Now, what pick3 numbers are there in this mess:
908
646
416
690
086
846
641
408
146

--> let's make these box/combo-format

048
068
069
089
146
146
146
466
468

To be able to create 6640 (or 0466) we would need 2 of these 3 pick3 numbers (3 because we're dealing with a double)
- 046
- 066
- 466 --> only  one found

To be able to create 4466 we would need these 2 pick3-numbers (2 because we're dealing with a double-double)
- 446
- 466 --> only one found

So this criteria was not met, we only find 466 in the pick3-numbers.

Now, i'm not saying that the tool can not mess up. It should not mess up, i checked and checked again, and after that i checked again. But it is possible that i have overlooked something...

Greetz
Ricky

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Ricky

That makes sense...thanks for the clarification.

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Hi Ricky and everybody

wow, you are the man to create MAGNIFICIENT TOOLS  to play pick3/4 games with easiest and simplicity.

long time ago i use to track number with +1-1 and mirror, also with some combination from last result, sorry i'm forget the methods.

here is one example i used to track.

Massachusetts (MA)
Thu, Jun 29, 2006
6-3-3-1

567012
234589
234589
012567

Numbers created: 12
---------------------------
0012, 0112, 0122, 2234, 2334, 2344, 5567, 5589, 5667, 5677, 5889, 5899

#################
Florida
Thursday, June 29, 2006
2-2-6-9

123678
123678
567012
091546

Numbers created: 10
---------------------------
0123, 0129, 1123, 1223, 1233, 4567, 5678, 6678, 6778, 6788

#################
Quebec
Thu, Jun 29, 2006
3-9-6-7

234789
091546
567012
678123

Numbers created: 1
---------------------------
2367

i use to track skip and hit for +1,-1 and mirror to pick a "good follower numbers" if six number too much hit eg: 15 or 20 times then i use the other fourth number

well, let see if those numbers produce boxed-hit with correct state for this friday 30, 2006

good luck

sysp34

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Thank you for clarification.

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This is one way to use this program, What I did was take Illinois midday draw of 1337 then looking at the pick 3 drawn numbers I put in only the numbers that had at least a 1-3-7. I inputed 36 numbers (that is how many duke will spit out). These are the numbers.

318,270,329,194,897,010,833,337,834,537,774,635,821,053,881,377,173,674,281,075,237,113,727,136,121,108,623,356,912,483.,762,725,911,706,150,691.

RESULT:

Numbers created: 65
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0015, 0018, 0128, 0135, 0138, 0157, 0158, 0188, 0237, 0257, 0267, 0277, 0356, 0357, 0467, 0567, 1123, 1128, 1129, 1136, 1137, 1138, 1139, 1149, 1169, 1236, 1237, 1238, 1239, 1249, 1269, 1288, 1289, 1337, 1338, 1348, 1356, 1357, 1367, 1368, 1369, 1377, 1378, 1388, 1469, 2337, 2356, 2357, 2367, 2369, 2377, 2379, 2467, 2477, 2567, 2577, 2677, 3348, 3357, 3377, 3378, 3477, 3567, 3577, 4677.

The wining number was 7317.I only tested this. Since that was the winning number I will see if todays midday number is in this group, Because these number are based on input 1-3-7.

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you are the man to create MAGNIFICIENT TOOLS  to play pick3/4 games with easiest and simplicity.

long time ago i use to track number with +1-1 and mirror, also with some combination from last result, sorry i'm forget the methods.

here is one example i used to track.

Massachusetts (MA)
Thu, Jun 29, 2006
6-3-3-1

567012
234589
234589
012567

Numbers created: 12
---------------------------
0012, 0112, 0122, 2234, 2334, 2344, 5567, 5589, 5667, 5677, 5889, 5899

#################
Florida
Thursday, June 29, 2006
2-2-6-9

123678
123678
567012
091546

Numbers created: 10
---------------------------
0123, 0129, 1123, 1223, 1233, 4567, 5678, 6678, 6778, 6788

#################
Quebec
Thu, Jun 29, 2006
3-9-6-7

234789
091546
567012
678123

Numbers created: 1
---------------------------
2367

i use to track skip and hit for +1,-1 and mirror to pick a "good follower numbers" if six number too much hit eg: 15 or 20 times then i use the other fourth number

well, let see if those numbers produce boxed-hit with correct state for this friday 30, 2006

back testing -1, +1, mirror methods, the performance not good enough to make profit lol,

only hit 12 from 105 and when use Pick4_NumbersFrom6_ways only hit boxed 1 time and 7 pick3 boxed.

result maybe different when using duke first then use Pick4_NumbersFrom6_ways to make pick 4 combination,

FL CASH 4 RESULT

3/17/2006 4772
3/18/2006 1502
3/19/2006 8243
3/20/2006 9165
3/21/2006 9762
3/22/2006 9551
3/23/2006 9233
3/24/2006 1711
3/25/2006 4691
3/26/2006 1924
3/27/2006 7571
3/28/2006 8714
3/29/2006 3860 789234 678123 012567 345890 p3 boxed
3/30/2006 0373
3/31/2006 9484 901456 234789 678123 234789
4/01/2006 1420
4/02/2006 0911 012567 345890 123678 901456 p3 boxed
4/03/2006 5213
4/04/2006 1081
4/05/2006 6291
4/06/2006 4846
4/07/2006 5493
4/08/2006 8962
4/09/2006 1985
4/10/2006 0285
4/11/2006 8819
4/12/2006 8953 789234 789234 012567 890345
4/13/2006 4865
4/14/2006 4545
4/15/2006 9727
4/16/2006 7287
4/17/2006 6968
4/18/2006 9499
4/19/2006 9951
4/20/2006 1434
4/21/2006 8761
4/22/2006 6866
4/22/2006 7534
4/24/2006 7138 678123 456901 234789 345890
4/25/2006 5339
4/26/2006 4211
4/27/2006 1396
4/28/2006 3997
4/29/2006 1132
4/30/2006 3675
5/01/2006 9646
5/02/2006 5087 890345 567012 345890 567012
5/03/2006 3561
5/04/2006 0210
5/05/2006 9688
5/06/2006 5657
5/07/2006 5137
5/08/2006 7942
5/09/2006 9669
5/10/2006 2634
5/11/2006 5255
5/12/2006 1975
5/13/2006 4787
5/14/2006 2001
5/15/2006 8750
5/16/2006 5835
5/17/2006 8532
5/18/2006 4863
5/19/2006 8297
5/20/2006 3191 789234 123678 890345 678123 p3 boxed
5/21/2006 5253
5/22/2006 9237
5/23/2006 0029
5/24/2006 3130
5/25/2006 9457
5/26/2006 8025
5/27/2006 2013
5/28/2006 8744
5/29/2006 6442
5/30/2006 8250
5/31/2006 7126
6/01/2006 2270 678123 012567 123678 567012 p3 boxed
6/02/2006 2029
6/03/2006 0127
6/04/2006 8547
6/05/2006 6303
6/06/2006 0959 567012 234789 901456 234789
6/07/2006 2648
6/08/2006 0638
6/09/2006 9605
6/10/2006 1554
6/11/2006 9930
6/12/2006 0458
6/13/2006 4696
6/14/2006 1622
6/15/2006 2342
6/16/2006 1605
6/17/2006 1644 012567 567012 901456 456901 p3 boxed
6/18/2006 0543 012567 567012 345890 345890 p3 boxed
6/19/2006 2436
6/20/2006 5508
6/21/2006 8541
6/22/2006 6898
6/23/2006 2333 567012 789234 890345 789234 p3 boxed
6/24/2006 5592
6/25/2006 8800
6/26/2006 1461
6/27/2006 5576 012567 345890 567012 012567
6/28/2006 0757
6/29/2006 2269

6/27/2006 5576*
Numbers created: 6
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0012, 0112, 0122, 5567*, 5667, 5677

let try to hac Evening draw for
Connecticut, Florida, Georgia, Illinois/Iowa, Kentucky, Maryland,
Massachusetts, Michigan, New Jersey, New York

 H: 258  A: 3467  C: 019 sorted HAC exp hit % hit a.c.h 21.6% 20.40% 204

skip and hit sequence

 00 08 00 05 00 08 00 03 00 02 00 01 00 01 00 06 00 06 00 01 00 00 01 00 01 00 02 00 06 00 02 00 04 00 03 00 23 00 02 00 01 00 03 00 03 00

using this hac for 06/25 thru 07/1
302 305 308 312 315 318
392 395 398 402 405 408
412 415 418 492 495 498
602 605 608 612 615 618
692 695 698 702 705 708
712 715 718 792 795 798

Numbers created: 126
---------------------------
0123, 0124, 0126, 0127, 0135, 0138, 0145, 0148, 0156, 0157, 0168, 0178,
0234, 0235, 0236, 0237, 0238, 0239, 0245, 0246, 0247, 0248, 0249, 0256,
0257, 0267, 0268, 0269, 0278, 0279, 0345, 0348, 0356, 0357, 0358, 0359,
0368, 0378, 0389, 0456, 0457, 0458, 0459, 0468, 0478, 0489, 0567, 0568,
0569, 0578, 0579, 0678, 0689, 0789, 1234, 1235, 1236, 1237, 1238, 1239,
1245, 1246, 1247, 1248, 1249, 1256, 1257, 1267, 1268, 1269, 1278, 1279,
1345, 1348, 1356, 1357, 1358, 1359, 1368, 1378, 1389, 1456, 1457, 1458,
1459, 1468, 1478, 1489, 1567, 1568, 1569, 1578, 1579, 1678, 1689, 1789,
2349, 2359, 2369, 2379, 2389, 2459, 2469, 2479, 2489, 2569, 2579, 2679,
2689, 2789, 3459, 3489, 3569, 3579, 3589, 3689, 3789, 4569, 4579, 4589,
4689, 4789, 5679, 5689, 5789, 6789

it seem too many numbers lol,

to reduce the numbers use even odd, low high, last digit rootsum, rootsum from each state stats
(Connecticut, Florida, Georgia, Illinois/Iowa, Kentucky, Maryland,
Massachusetts, Michigan, New Jersey, New York)

well good luck and happy hunting pick 4

sysp34

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From my early post the number was not in the 65 that was created by the program but.....if

I would have unchecked removed duplicate pick3 numbers I would get this.

Numbers created: 109
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0015, 0018, 0027, 0057, 0067, 0115, 0118, 0128, 0138, 0155, 0157, 0158, 0188, 0227, 0237, 0257, 0267, 0277, 0357, 0467, 0557, 0567, 0577, 0667, 0677, 1112, 1113, 1119, 1122, 1123, 1128, 1129, 1133, 1136, 1137, 1138, 1139, 1149, 1169, 1199, 1228, 1229, 1236, 1237, 1238, 1239, 1249, 1269, 1288, 1289, 1299, 1336, 1337, 1338, 1348, 1356, 1357, 1366, 1367, 1368, 1369, 1377, 1378, 1388, 1469, 1669, 1699, 2236, 2237, 2257, 2267, 2277, 2336, 2337, 2356, 2357, 2366, 2367, 2369, 2377, 2379, 2467, 2477, 2557, 2567, 2577, 2667, 2677, 2777, 3337, 3338, 3348, 3356, 3357, 3377, 3378, 3388, 3477, 3556, 3557, 3566, 3567, 3577, 3777, 4467, 4477, 4667, 4677, 4777

the winning number was 9616

I know to many numbers.

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Well, that's a discussion on its own, isn't it?
It seems that people are always trying to get a hit with a few combo's, 4 to 10 for pick3
don't know how many for pick4.
(And ofcourse no one in their right minds would talk against that.)

And if you hit then, that's good, you can go a long time without a hit.
But if you have more hits by using more numbers, is it that bad then?

In your example 109 numbers were created.
These are to play boxed.
You hit.
Online return is \$750

As long as there is a profit in the long run, the right track is followed.
No one is going to be a millionaire playing pick3 or pick4, unless they hit straight every draw or so.
Wanna become a millionaire playing? Buy one ticket for megamillions (or something like that) and hit it hard lol.

No?

There are 715 boxed numbers in pick4.
So the 109 picks would represent 33 picks in  Pick3.

Greetz
Ricky

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yup, this was a discussion on its own, just testing your new magnificient tool my friends.

i just wonder if there consistent result for boxed pick4

and i think that's count as surpluss for Online return is \$750 - \$109 = \$641 very good start.

good luck

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then in  theory the past to draws whould have cost me 218.00 for a net profit of 1282.00. Online of course. that will work.

Ok test for eve.illinois,new #'s

Numbers created: 107
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0012, 0015, 0016, 0017, 0018, 0056, 0067, 0115, 0117, 0118, 0122, 0125, 0127, 0128, 0129, 0137, 0138, 0155, 0156, 0157, 0158, 0167, 0177, 0178, 0188, 0189, 0267, 0356, 0467, 0556, 0566, 0567, 0667, 0677, 1113, 1119, 1128, 1129, 1133, 1136, 1137, 1138, 1139, 1149, 1169, 1189, 1199, 1228, 1229, 1236, 1238, 1239, 1249, 1269, 1288, 1289, 1299, 1336, 1338, 1356, 1366, 1367, 1368, 1369, 1378, 1388, 1389, 1449, 1469, 1489, 1499, 1669, 1689, 1699, 1789, 1889, 1899, 2236, 2239, 2249, 2267, 2336, 2339, 2349, 2356, 2359, 2366, 2367, 2369, 2399, 2449, 2467, 2499, 2667, 2677, 3356, 3359, 3556, 3559, 3566, 3569, 3599, 6689, 6789, 6889, 6899, 7889

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Hi tiber,

you wrote: "This is one way to use this program, What I did was take Illinois midday draw of 1337 then looking at the pick 3 drawn numbers I put in only the numbers that had at least a 1-3-7. I inputed 36 numbers (that is how many duke will spit out). These are the numbers."

could you explain into detail exactly what you did?
I'm not fully understand.

greetz
Ricky

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Hi Ricky and everybody

wow, you are the man to create MAGNIFICIENT TOOLS  to play pick3/4 games with easiest and simplicity.

long time ago i use to track number with +1-1 and mirror, also with some combination from last result, sorry i'm forget the methods.

here is one example i used to track.

Massachusetts (MA)
Thu, Jun 29, 2006
6-3-3-1

567012
234589
234589
012567

Numbers created: 12
---------------------------
0012, 0112, 0122, 2234, 2334, 2344, 5567, 5589, 5667, 5677, 5889, 5899

#################
Florida
Thursday, June 29, 2006
2-2-6-9

123678
123678
567012
091546

Numbers created: 10
---------------------------
0123, 0129, 1123, 1223, 1233, 4567, 5678, 6678, 6778, 6788

#################
Quebec
Thu, Jun 29, 2006
3-9-6-7

234789
091546
567012
678123

Numbers created: 1
---------------------------
2367

i use to track skip and hit for +1,-1 and mirror to pick a "good follower numbers" if six number too much hit eg: 15 or 20 times then i use the other fourth number

well, let see if those numbers produce boxed-hit with correct state for this friday 30, 2006

good luck

sysp34

Hi sysp34,

to me (and many others) you are the wizard around here.
If only i could comprehend all the things you write about, and your statistical excel-sheets...
You are too high level man! It will take much more time before i will understand a wizard!

greetz
Ricky

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Hi tiber,

you wrote: "This is one way to use this program, What I did was take Illinois midday draw of 1337 then looking at the pick 3 drawn numbers I put in only the numbers that had at least a 1-3-7. I inputed 36 numbers (that is how many duke will spit out). These are the numbers."

could you explain into detail exactly what you did?
I'm not fully understand.

greetz
Ricky

taking the number 1337 you use 1-3-7 as your key numbers.then you go to the past drawn pick 3 numbers and going from the top of list write any number that has at least one of the key numbers for a total of 36 numbers.the # that fell for eve was 7317 which was a hit. since the key#'s did't change using the same list today's midday number was 9616 another hit.but now that number did change so you us 9-1-6 as your key numbers for eve. draw.

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