Switching between Fairfax, VA and Belgium Belgium Member #19287 July 29, 2005 2254 Posts Offline

Posted: June 30, 2006, 3:18 am - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by Badger on June 29, 2006

Quote: Originally posted by winsumloosesum on June 29, 2006

Thanks Ricky.

Can someone provide instructions on where the numbers in the yellow box come from??

908 - 646 - 416

690086846641

408 you can put anything here!!!!!!!!!

146

If someone would be nice and provide an example from the state they play and how to generate combinations combinations to play.

Thanks!!!

winsum, I think this is a program you can get creative with....it's not meant to be a predictor per se. You enter three-digit combos (try 'em from your state, enter as many as you want, up to 1000 characters, I believe) and see what P4 combos it generates. Then see how it does in the drawings after that in the P4.

I think its more meant to be a tool for you to try different things with. Paurths isn't claiming anything, and certainly not that it hits the winning combos each day. Heck, you can try anything....For instance, use Duke to generate a bunch of P3 combos, then put them in this program. See what happens.

Play around. I think that's what it's for...

Hi Badger/winsum,

first, to everyone, you're all very welcome lol

This is indeed just a tool, no more than that, that will create pick4-numbers (box/combo-format) using pick3 numbers (which it will turn into box/combo-format). There are 2 requirements before any pick4 number can be created: - you must enter/paste numbers into the yellow textbox lol - the combo's must have matching pairs.

Steve (winsum): the data in the yellow textbox in the example is just rubbish lol, it is to show that you can pretty much enter the numbers in any way, use any character between them or inbetween them, it all does not matter. If you are entering numbers and your kid decides to knock on your keyboard, just move on entering the next pick3's, the parser will ignore any character that is not a numeric value.

Matching pairs: The second requirement is that the pick3-numbers have matching pairs, otherwise no pick4 number will be created. One matching digit is not enough. 231 and 345 will not create any pick4 number using this tool, 231 and 341 will b/c 1 and 3 is a pairmatch between both pick3-combo's. The tool will then create 1234. If you use the same number twice, example: 123 and 231 the tool will create 3 different pick4 numbers, b/c it finds 3 matching pairs: 12, 13 and 23, resulting in 1123, 1223 and 1233. (that is if you leave the checkbox "Remove duplicate pick3-numbers" unchecked. Otherwise the parser will ignore any other occurance of 123 and just use it once in the creation.)

What it is for: - you can not eat it lol (well, perhaps you can if you put it on a USB-memory-stick and happen to love to have those for lunch ;-) - It will not predict anything on its own. The output will be the result of your input. (you can press the "create pick4-numbers" till the end of time, if you don't input any pick3-numbers with matching pairs, the tool will ignore your key-presses, also until the end of time ;-) - tntea uses it to input whatever The - excellent - Duke spits out (worked in TN eve, seen this happen) --> well, perhaps tntea uses it also for some other method, we all know she is most creative of thinking out new ways - i have done some playing around in entering one months pick3-results, make it create pick4-numbers and check those on the following month in the same state (in pick4, obviously)

In fact, this tool is only any use if you happen to have some pick3-numbers lying around and decide to see if they have matching pairs lol

Switching between Fairfax, VA and Belgium Belgium Member #19287 July 29, 2005 2254 Posts Offline

Posted: June 30, 2006, 3:25 am - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by derek7 on June 30, 2006

Quick question:

I tried to understand the logic... and I do not understand why those combinations were not generated (from the example on the picture):

6640

6644

Why? Can somebody explain, please...

/Derek7

Hi derek7,

this was the input: 908 - 646 - 416

690086846641

408 you can put anything here!!!!!!!!!

146

--> it is a mess, just to show that you can input the pick3 numbers just the way you like.

Now, what pick3 numbers are there in this mess: 908 646 416 690 086 846 641 408 146

--> let's make these box/combo-format

048 068 069 089 146 146 146 466 468

To be able to create 6640 (or 0466) we would need 2 of these 3 pick3 numbers (3 because we're dealing with a double) - 046 - 066 - 466 --> only one found

To be able to create 4466 we would need these 2 pick3-numbers (2 because we're dealing with a double-double) - 446 - 466 --> only one found

So this criteria was not met, we only find 466 in the pick3-numbers.

Now, i'm not saying that the tool can not mess up. It should not mess up, i checked and checked again, and after that i checked again. But it is possible that i have overlooked something...

i use to track skip and hit for +1,-1 and mirror to pick a "good follower numbers" if six number too much hit eg: 15 or 20 times then i use the other fourth number

well, let see if those numbers produce boxed-hit with correct state for this friday 30, 2006

Port Orange florida United States Member #8611 November 11, 2004 2265 Posts Offline

Posted: June 30, 2006, 10:49 am - IP Logged

This is one way to use this program, What I did was take Illinois midday draw of 1337 then looking at the pick 3 drawn numbers I put in only the numbers that had at least a 1-3-7. I inputed 36 numbers (that is how many duke will spit out). These are the numbers.

The wining number was 7317.I only tested this. Since that was the winning number I will see if todays midday number is in this group, Because these number are based on input 1-3-7.

i use to track skip and hit for +1,-1 and mirror to pick a "good follower numbers" if six number too much hit eg: 15 or 20 times then i use the other fourth number

well, let see if those numbers produce boxed-hit with correct state for this friday 30, 2006

back testing -1, +1, mirror methods, the performance not good enough to make profit lol,

only hit 12 from 105 and when use Pick4_NumbersFrom6_ways only hit boxed 1 time and 7 pick3 boxed.

result maybe different when using duke first then use Pick4_NumbersFrom6_ways to make pick 4 combination,

to reduce the numbers use even odd, low high, last digit rootsum, rootsum from each state stats (Connecticut, Florida, Georgia, Illinois/Iowa, Kentucky, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, New Jersey, New York)

Switching between Fairfax, VA and Belgium Belgium Member #19287 July 29, 2005 2254 Posts Offline

Posted: June 30, 2006, 2:50 pm - IP Logged

Well, that's a discussion on its own, isn't it? It seems that people are always trying to get a hit with a few combo's, 4 to 10 for pick3 don't know how many for pick4. (And ofcourse no one in their right minds would talk against that.)

And if you hit then, that's good, you can go a long time without a hit. But if you have more hits by using more numbers, is it that bad then?

In your example 109 numbers were created. These are to play boxed. You hit. Online return is $750

Is that bad?

As long as there is a profit in the long run, the right track is followed. No one is going to be a millionaire playing pick3 or pick4, unless they hit straight every draw or so. Wanna become a millionaire playing? Buy one ticket for megamillions (or something like that) and hit it hard lol.

No?

There are 715 boxed numbers in pick4. So the 109 picks would represent 33 picks in Pick3.

Switching between Fairfax, VA and Belgium Belgium Member #19287 July 29, 2005 2254 Posts Offline

Posted: June 30, 2006, 4:04 pm - IP Logged

Hi tiber,

you wrote: "This is one way to use this program, What I did was take Illinois midday draw of 1337 then looking at the pick 3 drawn numbers I put in only the numbers that had at least a 1-3-7. I inputed 36 numbers (that is how many duke will spit out). These are the numbers."

could you explain into detail exactly what you did? I'm not fully understand.

i use to track skip and hit for +1,-1 and mirror to pick a "good follower numbers" if six number too much hit eg: 15 or 20 times then i use the other fourth number

well, let see if those numbers produce boxed-hit with correct state for this friday 30, 2006

to me (and many others) you are the wizard around here. If only i could comprehend all the things you write about, and your statistical excel-sheets... You are too high level man! It will take much more time before i will understand a wizard!

Port Orange florida United States Member #8611 November 11, 2004 2265 Posts Offline

Posted: June 30, 2006, 4:57 pm - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by paurths on June 30, 2006

Hi tiber,

you wrote: "This is one way to use this program, What I did was take Illinois midday draw of 1337 then looking at the pick 3 drawn numbers I put in only the numbers that had at least a 1-3-7. I inputed 36 numbers (that is how many duke will spit out). These are the numbers."

could you explain into detail exactly what you did? I'm not fully understand.

greetz Ricky

taking the number 1337 you use 1-3-7 as your key numbers.then you go to the past drawn pick 3 numbers and going from the top of list write any number that has at least one of the key numbers for a total of 36 numbers.the # that fell for eve was 7317 which was a hit. since the key#'s did't change using the same list today's midday number was 9616 another hit.but now that number did change so you us 9-1-6 as your key numbers for eve. draw.