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Highest Lifetime Hit Ratio

 

   Member  Hit Ratio  Picks  Hits 
1.PadawanLotto4.42%3,070136
2.Rip Snorter2.57%95,7182,460
3.WannaWinSoon1.86%3,06257
4.Rick G1.51%38,902590
5.joemillionaire1.47%81112
6.derek71.46%5,66183
7.RJOh1.33%4,47860
8.ScorpionPrince1.30%26,873351
9.LottoVantage1.25%1,99825
10.vin061.23%28,020346

 

 

 

Highest Lifetime Prize Ratio

   Member  Prize Ratio  Wagers  Winnings 
1.VALJEAN397.98%$2,181$8,680
2.PadawanLotto379.73%$3,070$11,658
3.SuperWheeler196.53%$33,796$66,420
4.derek7193.87%$5,661$10,975
5.joemillionaire187.42%$811$1,520
6.Jake138.92%$4,103$5,700
7.rng777124.37%$15,880$19,750
8.The Deer Hunter115.21%$3,003$3,460
9.Rick G114.35%$38,902$44,486
10.bencartwright113.58%$9,359$10,630

Hot Predictors (Last 30 Days by Hit Ratio)

   Member  Hit Ratio  Picks  Hits 
1.Rick G5.82%1,25373
2.PadawanLotto5.34%1,83298
3.for99c4.47%2019
4.Saleo Paleo4.28%703
5.WannaWinSoon2.77%2527
6.shwayba2.71%1845
7.vin062.47%2,71267
8.RJOh2.40%1664
9.ScorpionPrince2.33%3007
10.chipp2.20%3628

Highest Lifetime Hit Ratio

   Member  Hit Ratio  Picks  Hits 
1.PadawanLotto4.42%3,070136
2.Rip Snorter2.57%95,7182,460
3.WannaWinSoon1.86%3,06257
4.Rick G1.51%38,902590
5.joemillionaire1.47%81112
6.derek71.46%5,66183
7.RJOh1.33%4,47860
8.ScorpionPrince1.30%26,873351
9.LottoVantage1.25%1,99825
10.vin061.23%28,020346

 

Notes:

  • Hot predictors statistics are based on all picks within the past 30 days.
  • To appear an this page, members must post at least 500 picks, and must have posted at least one pick in the last 60 days.
  • These statistics are updated once per day at approximately 3:00 AM Eastern Time.

Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.

It's about number behavior.

Egos don't count.

 

Dedicated to the memory of Big Loooser

 

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    Posted: July 11, 2006, 7:42 am - IP Logged
     
    PadawanLottoWest VirginiaCash 253 of 602-07-08-11-15-1907-08-15-18-21-23$5
    PadawanLottoWest VirginiaCash 253 of 602-07-11-15-18-1907-08-15-18-21-23$5
    PadawanLottoWest VirginiaCash 253 of 603-07-09-15-18-2007-08-15-18-21-23$5
    PadawanLottoWest VirginiaCash 253 of 604-07-08-11-15-1907-08-15-18-21-23$5
    PadawanLottoWest VirginiaCash 253 of 604-07-11-15-18-1907-08-15-18-21-23$5
    PadawanLottoWest VirginiaCash 253 of 604-07-13-15-18-2407-08-15-18-21-23$5
    PadawanLottoWest VirginiaCash 253 of 604-08-11-15-18-1907-08-15-18-21-23$5
    PadawanLottoWest VirginiaCash 254 of 607-08-09-15-18-2007-08-15-18-21-23$100
    PadawanLottoWest VirginiaCash 253 of 607-08-11-13-15-1907-08-15-18-21-23$5
    PadawanLottoWest VirginiaCash 253 of 607-08-11-15-17-1907-08-15-18-21-23$5
    PadawanLottoWest VirginiaCash 253 of 607-09-11-15-18-2007-08-15-18-21-23$5
    PadawanLottoWest VirginiaCash 253 of 607-11-13-15-18-1907-08-15-18-21-23$5
    PadawanLottoWest VirginiaCash 253 of 607-13-15-18-19-2407-08-15-18-21-23$5
    PadawanLottoWest VirginiaCash 253 of 608-11-13-15-18-1907-08-15-18-21-23$5

    Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.

    It's about number behavior.

    Egos don't count.

     

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      Posted: July 11, 2006, 7:53 am - IP Logged

      This system appears be doing precisely what Jacques, the guy from Expert Lotto who posted on another thread describing the capabilities of the system, claimed it could do.

      Small, consistent wins and a positive prize/wager ratio.

      This won't cause anyone to bark, or stand on his hind legs and want to shake hands, but it's a testimony to the virtues of protracted testing on the prediction board as a means of proving, or disproving claims about lottery systems.

      Despite the general disbelief expressed by System Forum members when Jacques made the claim, PadawanLotto's continued testing appears to be positioning him at the top of all catagories on the Top Predictor list and keeping him there.

      In the past I've noticed a sustained 2.5 - 2.8 hit ratio on the prediction board produces a 25-35 percent prize ratio (negative).  Based upon Padawan's results, it appears a sustained 4.0 hit ratio is a rough minimum to push players over the divide and into a positive wager/prize catagory.

      Properly used, Expert Lotto shows every sign of providing a means to do to do this.

      Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.

      It's about number behavior.

      Egos don't count.

       

      Dedicated to the memory of Big Loooser

       


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        Very interesting Jack. Might just have to pluck down a few bucks for the sytem. However, since I'm not too savvy with software, it might not reap the benefits for me until I develop a sense on filters and the such.

         

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          Very interesting Jack. Might just have to pluck down a few bucks for the sytem. However, since I'm not too savvy with software, it might not reap the benefits for me until I develop a sense on filters and the such.

           

          PAC:

          I expect you're right.

          I don't intend to buy the system for that very reason.

          (That reason, combined with the fact the stuff I'm doing using the azimuths of celestial bodies combined with moon phases and histories produced my third 4 of 5 on pick 5s during the past week last night:

           

          Rip SnorterNew YorkTake 54 of 504-08-19-24-3104-08-19-30-31$150

           

          Not even using the lotteries with the easiest odds)

          I appreciate what Padawan's doing and what Expert Lotto seems to be able to do, but in the end, I thinks we don't need no stinking badges.

          J

          Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.

          It's about number behavior.

          Egos don't count.

           

          Dedicated to the memory of Big Loooser

           

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            If you're going to do as well as padwan I think it's necessary to follow what he and other users write on the Expert Lotto forum.
            And I guess you can't expect the same results when the software is being used on a 6/48 or 6/49 lottery.

            But to do very well you "only" need a 3rd division once every three month. 

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              If you're going to do as well as padwan I think it's necessary to follow what he and other users write on the Expert Lotto forum.
              And I guess you can't expect the same results when the software is being used on a 6/48 or 6/49 lottery.

              But to do very well you "only" need a 3rd division once every three month. 

               I guess you can't expect the same results when the software is being used on a 6/48 or 6/49 lottery.

               Millionswanted:

              That's a generally held opinion you share with RJOH and some others on this board.  It might be correct, but until it's put to the test I don't believe there's any way of knowing.

              In a sense, I'm sorry Padawan chose WV Pick 6 to test the system.

              Fact is, however, he's breaking new ground in testing it at all in any meaningful way.  The usual pattern history here's been rhetorical claims battered to death by rhetorical sneers and denouncements, both base on something thinner than air.

              When he began he had no way of knowing he'd be seeing a success of this magnitude and probably wanted to put everything he could in his favor.

              I think there's a middling chance the Expert Lotto methods would produce results from any lottery to correspond to the ones he's getting on WV, but my thinking so doesn't carry any water. 

              (Any more than the arguments the habitual detractors will probably make claiming the ease of beating WV erodes the test results.  A question for those:  If WV's so easy to beat why aren't you  up there above Padawan as a result of having beaten it?).

              But I think you make an excellent point about the necessity of anyone trying to use the system paying regular visits to the EL forums to try to work the kinks out of using it.

              J

              Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.

              It's about number behavior.

              Egos don't count.

               

              Dedicated to the memory of Big Loooser

               

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                Working with a 6/49 takes a lot of time that I don't have. Anyone can get good results with the WV Cash 25 using a spreadsheet and a good wheel. As for the combinations that I post they are the results of a filter break down starting from all possible combinations in the Cash 25 game, I use no wheels, there are no hit/match guarantees. I like the way that Expert Lotto's WN History filter leaves combinations for consideration, you know that you are getting close when the combinations flow nicely and are not erratic.

                The larger the pool of numbers the harder it is to get similar results as with Cash 25, I have been working with other lottery games but have not been posting predictions. I have even had some bad calls with Cash 25 using Expert Lotto's WN History strategy.

                Again, Expert Lotto is no more than a tool to help you form a strategy of play that you must develop for yourself.

                Strategy - Play a lottery game where you know you have good results to stay on top to try to keep your playing finances in the black. Then play the more difficult games only when the numbers present themselves in a way where you feel that you have a better than normal chance of hitting.

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                  Working with a 6/49 takes a lot of time that I don't have. Anyone can get good results with the WV Cash 25 using a spreadsheet and a good wheel. As for the combinations that I post they are the results of a filter break down starting from all possible combinations in the Cash 25 game, I use no wheels, there are no hit/match guarantees. I like the way that Expert Lotto's WN History filter leaves combinations for consideration, you know that you are getting close when the combinations flow nicely and are not erratic.

                  The larger the pool of numbers the harder it is to get similar results as with Cash 25, I have been working with other lottery games but have not been posting predictions. I have even had some bad calls with Cash 25 using Expert Lotto's WN History strategy.

                  Again, Expert Lotto is no more than a tool to help you form a strategy of play that you must develop for yourself.

                  Strategy - Play a lottery game where you know you have good results to stay on top to try to keep your playing finances in the black. Then play the more difficult games only when the numbers present themselves in a way where you feel that you have a better than normal chance of hitting.

                  Padawan:

                  Thanks for the clarifying remarks and the updates.

                  Expert Lotto is no more than a tool

                  Everything from a monkey-wrench, to mathmatics, to a Model 1911 Colt, to metaphysics is a tool, limited in potential by the skills, talents and techniques of the human users.

                  I doubt anything has ever been discussed on this medium as a means of trying to win lotteries could escape being a tool, whiggle, squirm and growl though it might.

                  Whatever the general limitations, flaws and shortcomings of Expert Lotto as a tool, you've succeeded in demonstrating it has potential energy in the hands of a skilled user... the potential for turning the nut, adding the column of figures, blowing holes in a target, seeing beyond the limited reality of the Quick Pick.

                  That's considerably more than can be said for the tools we've all searched for and mostly haven't found to apply them to the job of betting numbers without it just being a means of transferring currency into the hands of lottery organizations.

                  Thanks,

                  J

                  Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.

                  It's about number behavior.

                  Egos don't count.

                   

                  Dedicated to the memory of Big Loooser

                   

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                    I agree with PadawanLotto that Expert Lotto is no more than a tool and winning a 6/49 game is harder.  The flaw in proving how well a pick6 system works using the prediction board is that all pick6 games are treated the same with same payouts thus a match3 pays $5, a match4 pays $100 and a match5 pays $1500 which is about normal for a 6/49 game.

                    West Virgina pays $1 for match3, $10 for a match4 and $250 for a match5 because the odds of winning the jackpot of its 6/25 game are 1:177,100 rather than 1:13,983,816 the odds of a 6/49 game.  Because of the prediction board inflated payouts for the WV 6/25, any pick6 system is likely to appear more successful when picking numbers for that game.

                    Success on the prediction board should only be use as a guide because real lotteries continue to make money everyday in spites how these systems do on the prediction board.

                     * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                       
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                      I agree with PadawanLotto that Expert Lotto is no more than a tool and winning a 6/49 game is harder.  The flaw in proving how well a pick6 system works using the prediction board is that all pick6 games are treated the same with same payouts thus a match3 pays $5, a match4 pays $100 and a match5 pays $1500 which is about normal for a 6/49 game.

                      West Virgina pays $1 for match3, $10 for a match4 and $250 for a match5 because the odds of winning the jackpot of its 6/25 game are 1:177,100 rather than 1:13,983,816 the odds of a 6/49 game.  Because of the prediction board inflated payouts for the WV 6/25, any pick6 system is likely to appear more successful when picking numbers for that game.

                      Success on the prediction board should only be use as a guide because real lotteries continue to make money everyday in spites how these systems do on the prediction board.

                      Success on the prediction board should only be use as a guide because real lotteries continue to make money everyday in spites how these systems do on the prediction board.

                      There's only one winning system being used on the prediction board that anyone is admitting to.  And one player using it.

                      For that matter, even if there are hundreds of systems being used on the prediction board, the only one that's getting ahead and staying ahead is this one.

                      However, given the nature of Expert Lotto as Padawan describes it, and Jacques described it,

                      If all 14,000 LP member were using it with the expertise Padawan's exhibiting the lotteries would still be making money.

                      Success on the prediction board is a measure of what extent a person, or a person using a system, is capable of knowing before the draw what numbers will hit on a given draw.

                      You've said, "The flaw in proving how well a pick6 system works using the prediction board is that all pick6 games are treated the same with same payouts thus a match3 pays $5, a match4 pays $100 and a match5 pays $1500 which is about normal for a 6/49 game."

                      As it stands at this moment Padawan Lotto, using the EL tool, is better equipped to pick those numbers than any of the remainder of us has demonstrated we're able to do.

                      Maybe we should be asking ourselves, "Would Padawan be where he is on the Top 10 Predictor List if he had no EL tool?"

                      We don't know for certain, but I think we can all come up with an answer that stands a good shot at being the right one if we try.

                      J

                       

                      Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.

                      It's about number behavior.

                      Egos don't count.

                       

                      Dedicated to the memory of Big Loooser

                       

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                        Padawan:

                        You might as well be ready for it. If you ever hit 6 of 6 on WV the Ad Hoc Committee to Make Sure It Didn't Happen will be lined up at your doorstep:

                        Groucho:  He didn't do it.

                        Harpo:  If he did it didn't make any difference because he didn't buy a ticket.

                        Karl:  Wull, if he'd bought a ticket he wouldn't have been able to do it.

                        Groucho:  And if he had, he wouldn't have won any money.

                        Harpo:  Yeah.  He'd have gone broke from how little they paid him

                        Karl:  Yeah.  Annuities.

                        Groucho:  Prediction boards different, anyway.  You can know what numbers are going to come up and post it to the prediction board.  But you can't know what numbers are going to come up if you buy a ticket.

                        Harpo:  Yeah

                        Karl:  Yeah

                        Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.

                        It's about number behavior.

                        Egos don't count.

                         

                        Dedicated to the memory of Big Loooser

                         

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                          Well it won't make any difference because I live about 4 hours away from WV. What people might say makes no difference to me as I'm not doing this for anybody else's benefit.

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                            Well it won't make any difference because I live about 4 hours away from WV. What people might say makes no difference to me as I'm not doing this for anybody else's benefit.

                            Padawan:

                            That's as good a reason as any.

                            It's still a fine thing what you're doing.

                            J

                            Absorb the good, ignore the bad, weigh the ugly.

                            It's about number behavior.

                            Egos don't count.

                             

                            Dedicated to the memory of Big Loooser

                             

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                              WV Cash 25 top 16#'s 1, 3, 5, 7, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 16, 18, 19, 20, 23, 24, 25. One or more of these 16 numbers have been drawn together in the last 1,450 drawings. The 16 numbers have been placed in 20 combinations filtered from 177,100 possible combinations using sum filter 60/100 left in, odd/even 0/6 & 6/0 removed, low/high 0/6 & 6/0 removed, successive numbers 2x2, 2x3, 3x2, and 4 removed. I used a 4 number overlay (same as 4if6) and kept the best 20 tickets (the numbers that had the highest count). Let's see how they do for tonights drawing. No WN History filter was used, the combinations here are no different than what anybody using basic stats or spreadsheet software would come up with.

                              01,07,13,16,24,25
                              01,10,11,13,23,25
                              01,10,13,19,24,25
                              01,10,18,19,20,24
                              01,11,13,14,16,25
                              01,13,16,19,24,25
                              03,05,07,10,11,24
                              03,05,07,11,12,24
                              03,05,07,13,16,23
                              03,05,10,14,23,24
                              03,07,10,11,13,19
                              03,07,10,13,24,25
                              05,07,14,19,23,25
                              05,07,16,19,23,24
                              05,10,11,13,19,23
                              05,10,13,14,19,24
                              05,13,14,16,19,23
                              07,10,12,13,19,24
                              07,10,13,18,19,25
                              11,13,14,16,18,25